HPV or teaing/scaring?
January 22, 2011 5:08 PM Subscribe
Interior genital warts or vaginal tearing/scaring from a rape (15 years prior)?
Is there even a slight similarity in texture or feel? The interior texture was almost rough and very bumpy.
I'm reconsidering the source of my hpv.
Is there even a slight similarity in texture or feel? The interior texture was almost rough and very bumpy.
I'm reconsidering the source of my hpv.
Also consider that what you're feeling might be normal texture or normal variation that lots of women have.
posted by zeek321 at 5:28 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by zeek321 at 5:28 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Seconding zeek321.
posted by heatherann at 5:40 PM on January 22, 2011
posted by heatherann at 5:40 PM on January 22, 2011
I can't see how this question is answerable by people on the internet.
I'm a woman, and I've been sleeping with women for a couple of decades; the variation is enormous, and not just from woman to woman - some women feel, uh, bumpier at certain points in their menstrual cycles than others. As for scarring, no idea - some women form keloids or just have a tendency to scar more heavily, and some don't.
The only way to be sure is to ask your (previous?) partner to get tested.
posted by rtha at 5:40 PM on January 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
I'm a woman, and I've been sleeping with women for a couple of decades; the variation is enormous, and not just from woman to woman - some women feel, uh, bumpier at certain points in their menstrual cycles than others. As for scarring, no idea - some women form keloids or just have a tendency to scar more heavily, and some don't.
The only way to be sure is to ask your (previous?) partner to get tested.
posted by rtha at 5:40 PM on January 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
Without knowing the nature of the scarring or what sort of instrument/violence precisely caused it, it is impossible to predict what the ''texture or feel" of it 'should' be. I also agree that there are normal textural differences.
The source of your hpv could be from anyone you have had sex with who was not previously a virgin; if you have had sex with multiple partners, it is very likely that more than one of them had it. Huge quantities of people have hpv. The disease can stay in the body for months or possibly years before symptoms manifest themselves, if they ever do.
posted by frobozz at 5:43 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
The source of your hpv could be from anyone you have had sex with who was not previously a virgin; if you have had sex with multiple partners, it is very likely that more than one of them had it. Huge quantities of people have hpv. The disease can stay in the body for months or possibly years before symptoms manifest themselves, if they ever do.
posted by frobozz at 5:43 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Response by poster: The keyword was rough. I don't know what other word to use. The friction hurt after a little while. Imagine the lining being studded with broken bibi's. She claimed it was scaring from what happened to her however I know that after a trauma like that can make going to an obgyn a very difficult thing and perhaps it was easier to assume it was scaring rather than an std. I never knew about genital warts.
Asking her is impossible. She was my second partner. My reasons for this question are to possibly resolve some things that never made sense.
posted by mrflibble at 6:10 PM on January 22, 2011
Asking her is impossible. She was my second partner. My reasons for this question are to possibly resolve some things that never made sense.
posted by mrflibble at 6:10 PM on January 22, 2011
I'm sorry, but I don't think anyone on the Internet is going to be able to tell you "why yes, the texture of the interior of your second sexual partner's vagina was due to warts not scars! She probably gave you HPV." Someone could tell you that genital warts can be bumpy, or that scars from sexual assault can feel bumpy, but vaginal variation is such that no one can give you an answer. Is it that important to you to know where you got an incredibly common STD?
posted by MadamM at 6:18 PM on January 22, 2011 [10 favorites]
posted by MadamM at 6:18 PM on January 22, 2011 [10 favorites]
Nthing what MadamM said about HPV being incredibly common -- like "85%-of-sexually-active-people-are-carriers-of-some-form-of-the-virus" common. The HPV virus comes in a lot of different strains, like the cold does.
She very well indeed could have given it to you -- but unless she'd had an abnormal Pap smear recently, she may not have even known she was a carrier. Your first partner could have also given it to you, as well, for that matter.
But I would not attribute that kind of "rough texture" of the inside of your second partner's vagina to genital warts. I've had precisely one partner who was affected by this, and he had exactly one wart, instead of the many you describe. What you're describing sounds much more like hard keloids scarring (I've got similar scarring at the site of a surgical incision).
But, again, it's going to be really, really hard to pin down the source of your infection on a given particular person (unless your first partner was also a virgin). But even if you do, I wouldn't assume that she misled you in any way; she very well may not have known herself that she was a carrier.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:41 PM on January 22, 2011
She very well indeed could have given it to you -- but unless she'd had an abnormal Pap smear recently, she may not have even known she was a carrier. Your first partner could have also given it to you, as well, for that matter.
But I would not attribute that kind of "rough texture" of the inside of your second partner's vagina to genital warts. I've had precisely one partner who was affected by this, and he had exactly one wart, instead of the many you describe. What you're describing sounds much more like hard keloids scarring (I've got similar scarring at the site of a surgical incision).
But, again, it's going to be really, really hard to pin down the source of your infection on a given particular person (unless your first partner was also a virgin). But even if you do, I wouldn't assume that she misled you in any way; she very well may not have known herself that she was a carrier.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:41 PM on January 22, 2011
Mod note: Comment removed. Folks are here to try and help; I sympathize if you feel like you're not getting the answers you were hoping for, but do not be jerkish in response.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:03 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:03 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
The source of your hpv could be from anyone you have had sex with who was not previously a virgin.
HPV can be transmitted by virgins (although I suppose this depends on your definition of the word "virgin.") HPV can be transmitted via oral, anal, and vaginal sex, as well as genital to genital contact without penetration. Practically anyone you've had any sexual contact with could have given you this virus, whether or not you had penetrative sex and whether or not either or both of you were virgins.
posted by pecanpies at 7:55 PM on January 22, 2011
HPV can be transmitted by virgins (although I suppose this depends on your definition of the word "virgin.") HPV can be transmitted via oral, anal, and vaginal sex, as well as genital to genital contact without penetration. Practically anyone you've had any sexual contact with could have given you this virus, whether or not you had penetrative sex and whether or not either or both of you were virgins.
posted by pecanpies at 7:55 PM on January 22, 2011
Also, let me just chime in again to say that unless you've only had sexual contact of any kind with just 1 person, it's practically impossible to know how you were infected. There is no reliable test for males, and many, many individuals have the disease without ever knowing it. You can't rule out any previous partners unless you're literally the only person they've ever had any sexual contact with.
posted by pecanpies at 7:57 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by pecanpies at 7:57 PM on January 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Female genital warts are far more commonly found on the external genitalia and perineum than in the vaginal canal.
In addition, the strains of HPV that do cause internal vaginal warts don't usually cause external penile warts--the symptoms tend to correspond within strains, so that the strains that cause internal vaginal warts cause urethral warts in men, whereas the strains that cause penile and perineal warts in men cause labial and perineal warts in women (and exterior rectal rather than intra-anal warts in both men and women). Since you didn't state what your own symptoms are, I'm tossing this out as another point of information.
See if you can get an appointment with a doctor who specializes in STIs to talk about this with you, if it is something you really want to know. His or her guess is obviously also going to be a guess, but it will be a more educated guess than any of us can make for you.
posted by Sidhedevil at 12:41 PM on January 23, 2011
In addition, the strains of HPV that do cause internal vaginal warts don't usually cause external penile warts--the symptoms tend to correspond within strains, so that the strains that cause internal vaginal warts cause urethral warts in men, whereas the strains that cause penile and perineal warts in men cause labial and perineal warts in women (and exterior rectal rather than intra-anal warts in both men and women). Since you didn't state what your own symptoms are, I'm tossing this out as another point of information.
See if you can get an appointment with a doctor who specializes in STIs to talk about this with you, if it is something you really want to know. His or her guess is obviously also going to be a guess, but it will be a more educated guess than any of us can make for you.
posted by Sidhedevil at 12:41 PM on January 23, 2011
Vaginal rugae (normal, non-disease-or-trauma-related ridges and folds that allow the canal to expand) can feel very rough and almost sharp or hard to the touch, depending on how prominent they happen to be. They are usually described as extending from just inside the vagina to about one third of the way in. My bet would be that this is what you felt, rather than something worrisome.
posted by notquitemaryann at 2:31 AM on January 25, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by notquitemaryann at 2:31 AM on January 25, 2011 [1 favorite]
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posted by chillmost at 5:25 PM on January 22, 2011