Identify a mystery green herb in Chinese wontons
October 31, 2024 2:17 PM Subscribe
What's a strong-tasting green herb that might be chopped into pork filling for wontons in NYC Chinatown?
Once upon a time, I had some unlabeled frozen wontons from my mother's freezer... they were part of a delivery from NYC Chinatown, that's all she remembers. It was pork mixed with some kind of green herb that tasted a little sweet and surprisingly strong/distinctive -- I'm trying to figure out what that flavor might have been?
I'm pretty sure it's not cilantro, basil, lemongrass, jiucai (garlic chives), or jicai (shepherd's purse). Looks vaguely similar to chopped jiucai or jicai, though.
Once upon a time, I had some unlabeled frozen wontons from my mother's freezer... they were part of a delivery from NYC Chinatown, that's all she remembers. It was pork mixed with some kind of green herb that tasted a little sweet and surprisingly strong/distinctive -- I'm trying to figure out what that flavor might have been?
I'm pretty sure it's not cilantro, basil, lemongrass, jiucai (garlic chives), or jicai (shepherd's purse). Looks vaguely similar to chopped jiucai or jicai, though.
Was it aromatic like a flower or oniony?
posted by St. Peepsburg at 2:42 PM on October 31, 2024
posted by St. Peepsburg at 2:42 PM on October 31, 2024
Best answer: Sweet/strong suggests chrysanthemum leaf as a possibility?
posted by away for regrooving at 2:46 PM on October 31, 2024
posted by away for regrooving at 2:46 PM on October 31, 2024
Yesterday, I happened to see some frozen dumplings with shepherd's purse, which I was unfamiliar with. The taste is described as "a mild mustard/peppery taste. "
posted by ShooBoo at 3:12 PM on October 31, 2024
posted by ShooBoo at 3:12 PM on October 31, 2024
Pork and scallion is a classic takeout dumpling combination.
posted by Hypatia at 3:45 PM on October 31, 2024 [1 favorite]
posted by Hypatia at 3:45 PM on October 31, 2024 [1 favorite]
Response by poster: It's not shepherd's purse (jicai), water spinach (kongxin cai), or scallion, as I've eaten those before and the taste was different. Nor amaranth (xiancai).
I didn't think to smell it, unfortunately, since it was pre-mixed and then cooked in a wonton.
I have never tried chrysanthemum leaf or shiso, so those are contenders to do more hand-on (tongue-on?) research into!
posted by serelliya at 3:45 PM on October 31, 2024
I didn't think to smell it, unfortunately, since it was pre-mixed and then cooked in a wonton.
I have never tried chrysanthemum leaf or shiso, so those are contenders to do more hand-on (tongue-on?) research into!
posted by serelliya at 3:45 PM on October 31, 2024
Best answer: A little sweet and strong makes me think of fennel. The green, herby part is used in dumplings rather than the white bulb. It's definitely sweet, strong and distinctive, but also quite recognizable.
Dill is also a possibility though not really sweet.
posted by ssg at 4:35 PM on October 31, 2024
Dill is also a possibility though not really sweet.
posted by ssg at 4:35 PM on October 31, 2024
Best answer: Could have been minced snow pea vines, or minced fava greens. Legume greens have a definite tinge of sweetness a lot of the time. But definitely go try shiso, it’s one of my favorite herbs.
posted by Mizu at 5:59 PM on October 31, 2024
posted by Mizu at 5:59 PM on October 31, 2024
Thai basil?
posted by Teadog at 6:39 PM on October 31, 2024 [2 favorites]
posted by Teadog at 6:39 PM on October 31, 2024 [2 favorites]
Culantro? It tastes like cilantro on steroids.
posted by nouvelle-personne at 7:05 PM on October 31, 2024
posted by nouvelle-personne at 7:05 PM on October 31, 2024
Came to suggest jiucai or leeks but sounds like you’ve covered those.
posted by aspersioncast at 8:20 PM on October 31, 2024 [1 favorite]
posted by aspersioncast at 8:20 PM on October 31, 2024 [1 favorite]
Pickled mustard greens?
posted by a very present absence at 12:15 AM on November 1, 2024
posted by a very present absence at 12:15 AM on November 1, 2024
Garlic chives are a very common addition to the various pork dumplings it Asian cuisines.
posted by concinnity at 6:41 PM on November 1, 2024
posted by concinnity at 6:41 PM on November 1, 2024
For your shiso research, it's the leaf that looks a bit like a nettle (broad leaf, serrated edges) that you sometimes get with sashimi or nigiri sushi. Technically a mint, but by itself it's quite pungent and not, to me, a minty flavour.
posted by How much is that froggie in the window at 10:11 PM on November 1, 2024
posted by How much is that froggie in the window at 10:11 PM on November 1, 2024
I am thinking Thai basil myself. Chinese name: 9-level tower. 九層塔 (often identified as Taiwan-specific usage, it's a subtype of basil)
posted by kschang at 10:45 PM on November 2, 2024
posted by kschang at 10:45 PM on November 2, 2024
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posted by phunniemee at 2:18 PM on October 31, 2024 [1 favorite]