What is this bragging music called and where can I find more?
May 9, 2016 2:10 PM Subscribe
Is there a name for the type of song, often found in hip-hop, where the singer brags about how great they are as the main theme of the song? Example: "I'm the Best" by Nicki Minaj. Do you all have song recommendations for this type of song? Any genre of music is fine. Songs by women or gender nonconforming people preferred; no misogyny please. Thank you!
Kreayshawn, Gucci Gucci
Lady Sovereign's Love Me Or Hate Me is close, but is less of a brag and more of a "this is who I am, fuck you if you have a problem with it" kind of thing.
posted by Sara C. at 2:19 PM on May 9, 2016 [3 favorites]
Lady Sovereign's Love Me Or Hate Me is close, but is less of a brag and more of a "this is who I am, fuck you if you have a problem with it" kind of thing.
posted by Sara C. at 2:19 PM on May 9, 2016 [3 favorites]
Bitch I'm Madonna immediately springs to mind (as long as the word "bitch" as used in this context isn't misogynistic, in your view).
posted by sparklemotion at 2:19 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by sparklemotion at 2:19 PM on May 9, 2016
Oh, and Janelle Monae exemplifies this just by the very fact of her existence, but I'll put Q.U.E.E.N out there as a particularly on point example.
They be like, "Ooh, let them eat cake."
But we eat wings and throw them bones on the ground
posted by sparklemotion at 2:25 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
They be like, "Ooh, let them eat cake."
But we eat wings and throw them bones on the ground
posted by sparklemotion at 2:25 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
This describes most mainstream hip-hop these days, minus your stipulation for no misogyny. Even rap songs by women seem to have misogyny in them to me.
Anyway, first song that springs to mind is "All I Do Is Win", it's by a bunch of dudes but can the chorus be anymore blatant?
A recent song that pops to mind for me is by a white male rapper - "Random." The second verse in particular is about how he worked hard and is the best for it, i.e. his success is not random.
posted by AppleTurnover at 2:33 PM on May 9, 2016
Anyway, first song that springs to mind is "All I Do Is Win", it's by a bunch of dudes but can the chorus be anymore blatant?
A recent song that pops to mind for me is by a white male rapper - "Random." The second verse in particular is about how he worked hard and is the best for it, i.e. his success is not random.
posted by AppleTurnover at 2:33 PM on May 9, 2016
I think Santigold falls into this category sometimes. Her song that springs to mind is 'GO!' with Karen O. I think there are more I can't remember at the moment.
posted by GastrocNemesis at 2:36 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by GastrocNemesis at 2:36 PM on May 9, 2016
Jamie Foxx - Winner (ft. Justin Timberlake & T.I.)
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:36 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:36 PM on May 9, 2016
Love Me or Hate Me - Lady Sovereign
No Duh - K. Flay
I'm the One - Reema Major
Conceited - Remy Ma
posted by sockermom at 2:40 PM on May 9, 2016
No Duh - K. Flay
I'm the One - Reema Major
Conceited - Remy Ma
posted by sockermom at 2:40 PM on May 9, 2016
M.I.A. - Bucky Done Gun
M.I.A. - Bring The Noize
Both of these are super awesome takes on the theme, love how original they are.
posted by yueliang at 2:44 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
M.I.A. - Bring The Noize
Both of these are super awesome takes on the theme, love how original they are.
posted by yueliang at 2:44 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
Oh, I almost forgot the funny (although unfortunately containing a fat joke) "Run-DMC" by the Electric No-No Band, which I can't find linked anywhere. It's a parody: a battle rap/braggadocio as if performed by a weedy post-folk band, over the gentle stylings of a synth organ.
posted by praemunire at 2:52 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by praemunire at 2:52 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
I would argue that this does not describe most mainstream hip hop these days. There are lots of topics covered in rap/hip hop. The style is called Braggadocio, as praemunire notes above; it comes from the battle rap freestyle tradition.
One of my favorite freestyles that is an example of reverse braggadocio is Airplanes by Royce da 5'9", in which he claims he is not the greatest, but he tries.
posted by sockermom at 2:56 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
One of my favorite freestyles that is an example of reverse braggadocio is Airplanes by Royce da 5'9", in which he claims he is not the greatest, but he tries.
posted by sockermom at 2:56 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
I love M.I.A., here's another song:
Double Bubble Trouble
And who can forget Beyonce's Flawless. "Bow down bitches" indeed, and added some new definitions to her badassery. Also you might as well listen to Missy Elliott's discography, but I LOOOOOVE Gossip Folks.
posted by yueliang at 3:01 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Double Bubble Trouble
And who can forget Beyonce's Flawless. "Bow down bitches" indeed, and added some new definitions to her badassery. Also you might as well listen to Missy Elliott's discography, but I LOOOOOVE Gossip Folks.
posted by yueliang at 3:01 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Not hip hop, but I'm partial to Primadonna Girl by Marina and the Diamonds.
posted by telegraph at 3:02 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by telegraph at 3:02 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
"It's hard to be humble" -- Mac Davis
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 3:05 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 3:05 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Also, epilepsy and flashing images warning for the Double Bubble Trouble video.
posted by yueliang at 3:11 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by yueliang at 3:11 PM on May 9, 2016
U Should Know Better - Robyn ft. Snoop Dogg
posted by kitty teeth at 3:21 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by kitty teeth at 3:21 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
If for some reason you'd be interested in a song that is the antithesis of braggadocio, there's Courtney Barnett's "Pedestrian at Best."
posted by ejs at 3:38 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by ejs at 3:38 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
You often find this in guest verses , ie, when a rapper does a verse on someone else's song, especially a young up-and-coming rapper on a more famous person's song, because it's their intro to the world. ie, Lupe Fiasco on Touch the Sky or Snoop Dogg on Nuthin But a G Thang (definitely has misogyny).
posted by lunasol at 5:10 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by lunasol at 5:10 PM on May 9, 2016
Reggae-ish London hip-hop from 2002: Miss Dynamite: Dy-na-mi-tee
Same but less reggae: Eve ft. Gwen Stefani: Let me blow ya mind
posted by Pallas Athena at 5:22 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
Same but less reggae: Eve ft. Gwen Stefani: Let me blow ya mind
posted by Pallas Athena at 5:22 PM on May 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
Santigold - Can't Get Enough Of Myself
Nicki Minaj - Feelin' Myself Feat. Beyoncé
Beyoncé - Flawless (Remix) Feat. Nicki Minaj
Beyoncé - Run the World (Girls)
Kelis - Bossy Feat. Too $hort
Ciara - I'm Out Feat. Nicki Minaj
Eve - Who's That Girl
posted by fireandthud at 5:56 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Nicki Minaj - Feelin' Myself Feat. Beyoncé
Beyoncé - Flawless (Remix) Feat. Nicki Minaj
Beyoncé - Run the World (Girls)
Kelis - Bossy Feat. Too $hort
Ciara - I'm Out Feat. Nicki Minaj
Eve - Who's That Girl
posted by fireandthud at 5:56 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Robin Black - Some Of You Boys is a glam rock take on this.
posted by chainsofreedom at 6:15 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by chainsofreedom at 6:15 PM on May 9, 2016
I thought it went back to Jamacian dancehall "toasting", with DJs throwing some braggadocio in with their raps.
posted by JoeZydeco at 6:48 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by JoeZydeco at 6:48 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine...it's less "I'm the best" and more "You can't stop me" but I think it fits with the overall vibe.
posted by Doleful Creature at 7:05 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Doleful Creature at 7:05 PM on May 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
You might want to check out the answers in this related askmefi thread.
posted by in a dark glassly at 7:18 PM on May 9, 2016
posted by in a dark glassly at 7:18 PM on May 9, 2016
Trimbal - Confidence Boost (Harmonimix) - not quite bragging but it's great so I felt obliged to link it.
I thought it went back to Jamacian dancehall "toasting", with DJs throwing some braggadocio in with their raps.
posted by JoeZydeco at 18:48 on May 9 [1 favorite +] [!]
This.
Which reminds me you obviously have to put this classic on and dance around your kitchen like an idiot: M Beat feat. General Levy - Incredible
posted by Erberus at 2:10 AM on May 10, 2016
I thought it went back to Jamacian dancehall "toasting", with DJs throwing some braggadocio in with their raps.
posted by JoeZydeco at 18:48 on May 9 [1 favorite +] [!]
This.
Which reminds me you obviously have to put this classic on and dance around your kitchen like an idiot: M Beat feat. General Levy - Incredible
posted by Erberus at 2:10 AM on May 10, 2016
Mary J. Blige!
I'm the One
Just Fine
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 2:16 AM on May 10, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'm the One
Just Fine
posted by I_Love_Bananas at 2:16 AM on May 10, 2016 [2 favorites]
Two songs written by Stephin Merrit, one performed by him and one performed by Claudia Gonson:
We Are The King Of The Boudoir
I Am A Vampire
posted by yankeefog at 4:32 AM on May 10, 2016
We Are The King Of The Boudoir
I Am A Vampire
posted by yankeefog at 4:32 AM on May 10, 2016
Milkshake by Kelis. One of my all-time faves!
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 7:08 AM on May 10, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 7:08 AM on May 10, 2016 [2 favorites]
I graduate with honors
I ball, 'néad O'Connor
I did a freestyle and I got a shoutout
From Obama
Nicki Minaj elevated this kind of song
posted by Spiced Out Calvin Coolidge at 9:21 AM on May 10, 2016
I ball, 'néad O'Connor
I did a freestyle and I got a shoutout
From Obama
Nicki Minaj elevated this kind of song
posted by Spiced Out Calvin Coolidge at 9:21 AM on May 10, 2016
You can't leave out Hiphopapotamus vs. Rhymenocerous!
posted by mattholomew at 3:00 PM on May 10, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by mattholomew at 3:00 PM on May 10, 2016 [1 favorite]
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