Replacing a lost/stolen Netherlands passport
October 30, 2015 7:59 AM Subscribe
On two separate occasions I was robbed in Spain, and replaced my NL passport both times.
The last time I was at the Netherlands embassy in Madrid they indicated to me that there may be some trouble if I lost it again. My passport is currently missing, and if it doesn't turn up with the Police here in Bulgaria I guess I will have to go through the process of replacing it.
Does anyone know what the process is for replacement? What can I expect in terms of 'trouble' from the embassy?
Oh and in terms of the Embassy itself, I have no way of knowing what your consular service's policy is. I can tell you that even outside the 10 year time frame, I had one passport destroyed in an earthquake and another robbed at knifepoint in Madrid and I was basically very politely interrogated at the embassy in Madrid when I applied for an emergency replacement. I am still asked about that 3rd replacement when I go to renew my (un-lost) passport on the normal schedule at the embassy in Dublin.
They are very, very concerned that you are not selling your passport or being coerced to hand it over to document forgers or blackmarket resellers. Which is, you know, inconvenient but fair enough. All passports have value but just as an example, a Swedish passport is worth a lot of money on the second-hand market.
posted by DarlingBri at 8:34 AM on October 30, 2015 [2 favorites]
They are very, very concerned that you are not selling your passport or being coerced to hand it over to document forgers or blackmarket resellers. Which is, you know, inconvenient but fair enough. All passports have value but just as an example, a Swedish passport is worth a lot of money on the second-hand market.
posted by DarlingBri at 8:34 AM on October 30, 2015 [2 favorites]
I had a similar situation after I had a passport stolen, then washed a second one ~5 years later. I was told in no uncertain terms to be very careful with my next one.
In the Canadian context, if I'd lost or had a a third one stolen, I would definitely have had a similar interrogation to the one that DarlingBri had, and I might have been issued a passport with a shorter validity period.
They'll likely talk to you about where you plan to travel, how you travel, and impress on you that you're running out of chances.
Seriously, don't lose your next one.
posted by Kreiger at 10:19 AM on October 30, 2015
In the Canadian context, if I'd lost or had a a third one stolen, I would definitely have had a similar interrogation to the one that DarlingBri had, and I might have been issued a passport with a shorter validity period.
They'll likely talk to you about where you plan to travel, how you travel, and impress on you that you're running out of chances.
Seriously, don't lose your next one.
posted by Kreiger at 10:19 AM on October 30, 2015
From experience from a with a flaky friend in Amsterdam, the third time you apply for a new Dutch passport in a short period of time, then they can decide to treat it as suspected fraud. In that case, you're going to have to explain all three. If they decide your explanation isn't good enough then they can either decide not to give you a new one or even prosecute you for fraud.
I'm not sure what happens if you're out of the country.
From the govt website:
"De gemeente of de politie kan besluiten om een aangifte van verlies of diefstal te onderzoeken. Bijvoorbeeld omdat u in korte tijd een aantal keren een identiteitsbewijs bent kwijtgeraakt. De (vreemdelingen)politie kan u dan om een extra toelichting vragen.
Bij twijfel aan de betrouwbaarheid van uw aangifte krijgt u mogelijk geen nieuw identiteitsbewijs. Als u wordt verdacht van valse aangifte of andere strafbare feiten, stelt de politie een strafrechtelijk onderzoek in."
posted by frumiousb at 3:54 PM on October 30, 2015
I'm not sure what happens if you're out of the country.
From the govt website:
"De gemeente of de politie kan besluiten om een aangifte van verlies of diefstal te onderzoeken. Bijvoorbeeld omdat u in korte tijd een aantal keren een identiteitsbewijs bent kwijtgeraakt. De (vreemdelingen)politie kan u dan om een extra toelichting vragen.
Bij twijfel aan de betrouwbaarheid van uw aangifte krijgt u mogelijk geen nieuw identiteitsbewijs. Als u wordt verdacht van valse aangifte of andere strafbare feiten, stelt de politie een strafrechtelijk onderzoek in."
posted by frumiousb at 3:54 PM on October 30, 2015
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If you have lost your passport more than twice in a single passport-issue timeframe (normally 10 years) you can expect to next be issued a Limited Validity Passport. These are passports good for 1 or 2 years, which obviously makes them much less desirable to document forgers. I don't know what the specifics would be for a NL passport but I presume you can Google that in Dutch.
posted by DarlingBri at 8:23 AM on October 30, 2015 [2 favorites]