NSFW-ish: Cum, big "O", bust a nut, make my "O" face, shoot a wad... orgasm!
August 11, 2008 8:16 AM Subscribe
Help me come (hehe!) up with a list of songs that are about or refer to orgasms.
I hope this isn't cheating, but I have two related questions that I'm going to pack into this one post (hey, a week is a long time to wait between posts). Sort of a more specific version of the "music to do it to" question...
1) I'm trying to put together a list of songs that are about, or at least mention, orgasms. It can be a direct or indirect reference, as long as it's clear what they're talking about. Nothing so veiled or vague that it would only make sense if you knew that's what they were talking about. I prefer songs with a more "sexy" feel (i.e. Violent Femmes... not so much), but that's a matter of taste, so let's see what you got.
Examples:
- 'Walk This World' by Heather Nova ("I want you to come..." and "... I feel you plant the seed")
- 'Travelling Riverside Blues' (et al) by Zep ("Squeeze my lemon 'til the juice runs down my leg")
- 'Feelin Love' by Paula Cole ("You make me feel like the Amazon's runnin' between my thighs"... close enough ;-)
2) I'd also like to find some good instrumental songs that are undeniably sexy. Slow to mid-tempo is preferred but, again, let's see what you got.
I hope this isn't cheating, but I have two related questions that I'm going to pack into this one post (hey, a week is a long time to wait between posts). Sort of a more specific version of the "music to do it to" question...
1) I'm trying to put together a list of songs that are about, or at least mention, orgasms. It can be a direct or indirect reference, as long as it's clear what they're talking about. Nothing so veiled or vague that it would only make sense if you knew that's what they were talking about. I prefer songs with a more "sexy" feel (i.e. Violent Femmes... not so much), but that's a matter of taste, so let's see what you got.
Examples:
- 'Walk This World' by Heather Nova ("I want you to come..." and "... I feel you plant the seed")
- 'Travelling Riverside Blues' (et al) by Zep ("Squeeze my lemon 'til the juice runs down my leg")
- 'Feelin Love' by Paula Cole ("You make me feel like the Amazon's runnin' between my thighs"... close enough ;-)
2) I'd also like to find some good instrumental songs that are undeniably sexy. Slow to mid-tempo is preferred but, again, let's see what you got.
"King's Lead Hat" by Brian Eno.
posted by Area Control at 8:36 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by Area Control at 8:36 AM on August 11, 2008
The song "The Way You Move" by Outkast has the line "drip drip drop, there goes an eargasm".
posted by ErWenn at 8:37 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by ErWenn at 8:37 AM on August 11, 2008
Pink's Fingers.
Maroon 5's Kiwi.
Ludacris's Splash Waterfalls.
David Banner's Play (uncensored).
Ying Yang Twins' The Whisper Song.
Jackie-O feat. Trick Daddy Champion.
Really, there are a TON of rap songs that fit this description... Not sure if you want me to bother to name more or not, hah. The last three I named just because they're so explicit that they crack me up. I can probably think of some more non-rap songs...
posted by Nattie at 8:39 AM on August 11, 2008
Maroon 5's Kiwi.
Ludacris's Splash Waterfalls.
David Banner's Play (uncensored).
Ying Yang Twins' The Whisper Song.
Jackie-O feat. Trick Daddy Champion.
Really, there are a TON of rap songs that fit this description... Not sure if you want me to bother to name more or not, hah. The last three I named just because they're so explicit that they crack me up. I can probably think of some more non-rap songs...
posted by Nattie at 8:39 AM on August 11, 2008
Direct: Buzzcocks, "Orgasm Addict"*
Indirect: Breeders, "Divine Hammer"
*Orgasms may be self-induced
posted by Beardman at 8:41 AM on August 11, 2008
Indirect: Breeders, "Divine Hammer"
*Orgasms may be self-induced
posted by Beardman at 8:41 AM on August 11, 2008
HWC by Liz Phair. Again, not particularly sexy, but in general I don't think songs about cum are.
Throw Your Arms Around Me by Eddie Vedder.
Lover by Devendra Banhart.
Girl I Wanna Lay You Down by Jack Johnson.
posted by runningwithscissors at 8:45 AM on August 11, 2008
Throw Your Arms Around Me by Eddie Vedder.
Lover by Devendra Banhart.
Girl I Wanna Lay You Down by Jack Johnson.
posted by runningwithscissors at 8:45 AM on August 11, 2008
Death From Above 1979's "Pull Out". Guess what that song is about!
posted by GilloD at 8:46 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by GilloD at 8:46 AM on August 11, 2008
Hrm.
What about that Collective Soul song, December?
Turn your head now baby
Just spit me out
posted by kbanas at 8:46 AM on August 11, 2008
What about that Collective Soul song, December?
Turn your head now baby
Just spit me out
posted by kbanas at 8:46 AM on August 11, 2008
Im not sure if it is or isn't...but that Norah Jones song "Don't know why I didn't come"
posted by ian1977 at 9:01 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by ian1977 at 9:01 AM on August 11, 2008
HWC by Liz Phair. Again, not particularly sexy, but in general I don't think songs about cum are.
go back a bit father in her catalog and you run into "Supernova," a song which got MTV airplay about a man who shoots huge amounts of you-know-what.
Tori Amos has that song off Little Earthquakes, "Precious Things," with the line "so you can make me come/that doesn't make you Jesus." She also has a song on Under the Pink about masturbation and religion, "Icicle" i think?
posted by ifjuly at 9:06 AM on August 11, 2008
go back a bit father in her catalog and you run into "Supernova," a song which got MTV airplay about a man who shoots huge amounts of you-know-what.
Tori Amos has that song off Little Earthquakes, "Precious Things," with the line "so you can make me come/that doesn't make you Jesus." She also has a song on Under the Pink about masturbation and religion, "Icicle" i think?
posted by ifjuly at 9:06 AM on August 11, 2008
Donna Summer's "Love to Love You Babe". The lyrics are pretty tame, but it's accompanied by lots of orgasmic moaning. Listen to last minute of this.
posted by marsha56 at 9:06 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by marsha56 at 9:06 AM on August 11, 2008
AC/DC's "You Shook Me All Night Long" has the line "She told me to come, but I was already there."
posted by amyms at 9:08 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by amyms at 9:08 AM on August 11, 2008
Well the following kind of blur the line between songs explicitly about sex versus actually about orgasms, but here goes...
"Soft Hand" by Willard Grant Conspiracy, Regard the End
"Diamonds and Buttermilk" Poi Dog Pondering, Pomegranite
"Crash Into Me" by Dave Matthews, Crash
"Too Drunk to Fuck" Dead Kennedys, Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death
And I thought it was it was another DK song, but I remember a really offensive (but funny) punk song called "I Want To Fuck The Dead" but I cant find a reference to it anywhere. Definate references to orgasms involving .... well never mind.
Others as I remember them.
posted by elendil71 at 9:11 AM on August 11, 2008
"Soft Hand" by Willard Grant Conspiracy, Regard the End
"Diamonds and Buttermilk" Poi Dog Pondering, Pomegranite
"Crash Into Me" by Dave Matthews, Crash
"Too Drunk to Fuck" Dead Kennedys, Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death
And I thought it was it was another DK song, but I remember a really offensive (but funny) punk song called "I Want To Fuck The Dead" but I cant find a reference to it anywhere. Definate references to orgasms involving .... well never mind.
Others as I remember them.
posted by elendil71 at 9:11 AM on August 11, 2008
DEVO - When We Do It
Tubeway Army - Every Day I Die
Uh...
S'all I got for now.
posted by SansPoint at 9:15 AM on August 11, 2008
Tubeway Army - Every Day I Die
Uh...
S'all I got for now.
posted by SansPoint at 9:15 AM on August 11, 2008
sublime - caress me down
probably a bunch of songs by peaches.
posted by NormandyJack at 9:15 AM on August 11, 2008
probably a bunch of songs by peaches.
posted by NormandyJack at 9:15 AM on August 11, 2008
Another Tori Amos song, "She's Your Cocaine":
"So tired, you don't know how she came"
For bonus points, it features a very, uh, gasp and moany Ms. Amos in the outro.
posted by dbarefoot at 9:21 AM on August 11, 2008
"So tired, you don't know how she came"
For bonus points, it features a very, uh, gasp and moany Ms. Amos in the outro.
posted by dbarefoot at 9:21 AM on August 11, 2008
"Dinah Moe Humm", by Frank Zappa
"She strolled on over,
said look here bum
I got a forty dollar bill says
You can't make me cum
(you just can't do it)"
posted by wabbittwax at 9:25 AM on August 11, 2008
"She strolled on over,
said look here bum
I got a forty dollar bill says
You can't make me cum
(you just can't do it)"
posted by wabbittwax at 9:25 AM on August 11, 2008
Oh, and "Swimming in Your Ocean" by Crash Test Dummies, God Shuffled His Feet. Actually a very charming romantic song.
Upon review of your post, looking for instrumentals, I have been told, more than once, that Peter Gabriels "Passion: Soundtrack to the Motion Picture 'The Last Temptation of Christ'" was a fine choice. More to do with the rhythm of the music than the subject matter, I suspect, which, you know, is a guy being tortured to death.
posted by elendil71 at 9:29 AM on August 11, 2008
Upon review of your post, looking for instrumentals, I have been told, more than once, that Peter Gabriels "Passion: Soundtrack to the Motion Picture 'The Last Temptation of Christ'" was a fine choice. More to do with the rhythm of the music than the subject matter, I suspect, which, you know, is a guy being tortured to death.
posted by elendil71 at 9:29 AM on August 11, 2008
Just fyi Travelling Riverside Blues was written by Robert Johnson, quite a few years before Lez Zepplin covered it.
I think if you looked for classical music involving the term Little Death, you might find something. I remember hearing it mentioned either Monteverdi or Spanish early music, but not sure about that.
posted by sully75 at 9:41 AM on August 11, 2008
I think if you looked for classical music involving the term Little Death, you might find something. I remember hearing it mentioned either Monteverdi or Spanish early music, but not sure about that.
posted by sully75 at 9:41 AM on August 11, 2008
A bit necrophilic, but the Rolling Stones' "Start Me Up" has the line "You make a dead man come."
posted by Knappster at 9:43 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by Knappster at 9:43 AM on August 11, 2008
The Roots -- "The Seed 2.0"
posted by pardonyou? at 9:55 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by pardonyou? at 9:55 AM on August 11, 2008
"Je t'aime...moi non plus" by Serge Gainsbourg, not so much for the lyrics but the moaning at the end. I can't decide which one is hotter, the original with Brigette Bardot or the version with Jane Birkin that became a hit, despite being banned in several countries.
"Get Down" by Curtis Mayfield , again not explicit lyrics, but I find myself skipping it at work so that no one walks by my office and wonders what exactly I'm up to.
Dresden Dolls - First Orgasm (self-induced, not particularly erotic)
"Erotic City" by Prince doesn't mention orgasms but it might as well. Arto Lindsay does a smoldering slower-tempo version on Mundo Civilizado. That whole album might be a good answer for your second question, in spite of having lyrics. Here's a sample.
posted by hydrophonic at 9:56 AM on August 11, 2008
"Get Down" by Curtis Mayfield , again not explicit lyrics, but I find myself skipping it at work so that no one walks by my office and wonders what exactly I'm up to.
Dresden Dolls - First Orgasm (self-induced, not particularly erotic)
"Erotic City" by Prince doesn't mention orgasms but it might as well. Arto Lindsay does a smoldering slower-tempo version on Mundo Civilizado. That whole album might be a good answer for your second question, in spite of having lyrics. Here's a sample.
posted by hydrophonic at 9:56 AM on August 11, 2008
Momus has a song "Organon" about Willhelm Reich's quest to understand the sexual energy called Orgone with lyrics about the "mystery of the orgasm". It's one of his soft whisper sleazy-sexy songs, so it just might work.
posted by abirae at 9:57 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by abirae at 9:57 AM on August 11, 2008
Speaking of Ms. Amos, her song "Raspberry Swirl" is about oral sex (female in particular), and features interesting orgasm sounds at the end.
Also, iirc, the Afghan Whigs had a song on 1965 that is purported to be an actual recording of Greg Dulli's girlfriend's orgasm.
posted by pardonyou? at 9:58 AM on August 11, 2008
Also, iirc, the Afghan Whigs had a song on 1965 that is purported to be an actual recording of Greg Dulli's girlfriend's orgasm.
posted by pardonyou? at 9:58 AM on August 11, 2008
There is always the so very awesomely cheesy Hungry Like the Wolf moaning in the song by Duran Duran.
Thanks for asking the question. I haven't seen that video in ages and it made me laugh out loud at work.
posted by jeanmari at 10:01 AM on August 11, 2008
Thanks for asking the question. I haven't seen that video in ages and it made me laugh out loud at work.
posted by jeanmari at 10:01 AM on August 11, 2008
Oldie but goodie: Afternoon Delight (I hope you weren't looking for subtle)
posted by nax at 10:07 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by nax at 10:07 AM on August 11, 2008
David Allan Coe's Masturbation Blues. Lyrics (quite unsafe for work, if people can read over your shoulder).
posted by gleuschk at 10:09 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by gleuschk at 10:09 AM on August 11, 2008
Spoonful, by Willie Dixon (and made famous by Cream -- heh).
posted by mosk at 10:15 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by mosk at 10:15 AM on August 11, 2008
Ash - Detonator
posted by EndsOfInvention at 10:37 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by EndsOfInvention at 10:37 AM on August 11, 2008
Response by poster: Thanks. These suggestions should keep me busy for a while... but keep 'em coming :-).
"Just fyi Travelling Riverside Blues was written by Robert Johnson, quite a few years before Lez Zepplin covered it."
Yep. In fact, I believe the "squeeze my lemon" thing originated with Arthur McKay, IIRC. I just figured more people would know what I was talking about if I attributed it to Zeppelin.
posted by jluce50 at 10:38 AM on August 11, 2008
"Just fyi Travelling Riverside Blues was written by Robert Johnson, quite a few years before Lez Zepplin covered it."
Yep. In fact, I believe the "squeeze my lemon" thing originated with Arthur McKay, IIRC. I just figured more people would know what I was talking about if I attributed it to Zeppelin.
posted by jluce50 at 10:38 AM on August 11, 2008
"Tell Me" by Billie Myers.
Sample lyric:
Naked
Oh I like you naked
And when I fake it
You like me more.
posted by Oriole Adams at 10:40 AM on August 11, 2008
Sample lyric:
Naked
Oh I like you naked
And when I fake it
You like me more.
posted by Oriole Adams at 10:40 AM on August 11, 2008
Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water,
Jack fell down and broke his crown,
and Jill came tumbling after.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 10:40 AM on August 11, 2008
Jack fell down and broke his crown,
and Jill came tumbling after.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 10:40 AM on August 11, 2008
Christina Aguilera, "Candyman"
"He's a one stop shop, makes my cherry pop ... Jane lost her grip and a-down she fell, squared herself away as she let out a yell..."
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 10:42 AM on August 11, 2008
"He's a one stop shop, makes my cherry pop ... Jane lost her grip and a-down she fell, squared herself away as she let out a yell..."
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 10:42 AM on August 11, 2008
And I thought it was it was another DK song, but I remember a really offensive (but funny) punk song called "I Want To Fuck The Dead" but I cant find a reference to it anywhere.
I think you're thinking of "Code Blue" by TSOL.
posted by rebel_rebel at 10:55 AM on August 11, 2008
I think you're thinking of "Code Blue" by TSOL.
posted by rebel_rebel at 10:55 AM on August 11, 2008
"To be of use" by Smog...
Most of my fantasies are of
Making someone else come
posted by shannonm at 11:08 AM on August 11, 2008 [1 favorite]
Most of my fantasies are of
Making someone else come
posted by shannonm at 11:08 AM on August 11, 2008 [1 favorite]
Salt Lake City's own "Starmy" has a song called "See Stars" that should fit the bill. It's pretty good.
posted by trbrts at 11:36 AM on August 11, 2008
posted by trbrts at 11:36 AM on August 11, 2008
Minnie Ripperton's "Loving You" is that song you've no doubt heard a dozen times but always been too embarrassed to look up, because of that, er, "unabashed" high-pitched wail at the end.
A more uptempo choice (and a great song by any measure) is the Dandy Warhols' "Get Off" (not related to the Prince track).
posted by kittyprecious at 12:14 PM on August 11, 2008
A more uptempo choice (and a great song by any measure) is the Dandy Warhols' "Get Off" (not related to the Prince track).
posted by kittyprecious at 12:14 PM on August 11, 2008
Wayne Marshall's album 90 Degrees and Rising has plenty of 'em, G-spot for example.
As for instrumental, Ravel's Bolero is forever associated with Mr Moore and Ms Derek.
posted by ceri richard at 12:35 PM on August 11, 2008
As for instrumental, Ravel's Bolero is forever associated with Mr Moore and Ms Derek.
posted by ceri richard at 12:35 PM on August 11, 2008
MGMT "Electric Feel"
Also, more generally: every major pop song of the last century or so, possibly earlier.
posted by naju at 12:40 PM on August 11, 2008
Also, more generally: every major pop song of the last century or so, possibly earlier.
posted by naju at 12:40 PM on August 11, 2008
Also seconding that "death" was and is understood as a sexual metaphor in various cultures and times.
For one example that's been on my mind, check out "Butcher Pete" from the late 40's:
Hey everybody, did the news get around
About a guy named Butcher Pete
Oh, Pete just flew into this town
And he's choppin' up all the women's meat
[Chorus]
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He just hacks, wacks, choppin' that meat
Butcher Pete's got a long sharp knife
He starts choppin' and don't know when to stop
All you fellows gotta watch your wifes
'Cause Pete don't care who's meat he chops
etc.
posted by naju at 12:47 PM on August 11, 2008
For one example that's been on my mind, check out "Butcher Pete" from the late 40's:
Hey everybody, did the news get around
About a guy named Butcher Pete
Oh, Pete just flew into this town
And he's choppin' up all the women's meat
[Chorus]
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He just hacks, wacks, choppin' that meat
Butcher Pete's got a long sharp knife
He starts choppin' and don't know when to stop
All you fellows gotta watch your wifes
'Cause Pete don't care who's meat he chops
etc.
posted by naju at 12:47 PM on August 11, 2008
And I thought it was it was another DK song, but I remember a really offensive (but funny) punk song called "I Want To Fuck The Dead" but I cant find a reference to it anywhere.
I think you're thinking of "Code Blue" by TSOL.
You are quite right, rebel_rebel. Thanks for that. Ahh the old grey cells are not what they used to be after more than twenty years...
posted by elendil71 at 1:10 PM on August 11, 2008
I think you're thinking of "Code Blue" by TSOL.
You are quite right, rebel_rebel. Thanks for that. Ahh the old grey cells are not what they used to be after more than twenty years...
posted by elendil71 at 1:10 PM on August 11, 2008
Response by poster: @ trbrts: Your link points to the Burton snowboard website. Is there something about that song on there that I'm not seeing?
posted by jluce50 at 1:21 PM on August 11, 2008
posted by jluce50 at 1:21 PM on August 11, 2008
Teenage Kicks by the Undertones:
Are teenage dreams so hard to beat
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good
I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night
I'm gonna call her on the telephone
Have her over cos I'm all alone
I need excitement oh I need it bad
And its the best, I've ever had
I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night
I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night
posted by roofus at 2:10 PM on August 11, 2008
Are teenage dreams so hard to beat
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good
I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night
I'm gonna call her on the telephone
Have her over cos I'm all alone
I need excitement oh I need it bad
And its the best, I've ever had
I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night
I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night
posted by roofus at 2:10 PM on August 11, 2008
I can't believe no one has mentioned The Brazilian Girls' Don't Stop
Don't Stop don't stop, no
Just keep on going
Until I come
...
Playing hard to get when we're together
Hard to get there on your own
posted by piedmont at 2:35 PM on August 11, 2008
Don't Stop don't stop, no
Just keep on going
Until I come
...
Playing hard to get when we're together
Hard to get there on your own
posted by piedmont at 2:35 PM on August 11, 2008
Satellite Ecstatica by Pop Will Eat Itself.
"The door flies wide, a crunching blow hits from behind
I'm wet with sweat and handcuffed to the TV set
She smiles the smile of someone in complete control
I'm on my knees and begging her for mercy please
...
My teeth are clenched
The room spins round and then gets drenched
I'm through, destroyed, she looks annoyed"
There's more, but you get the drift.
posted by workerant at 4:10 PM on August 11, 2008
"The door flies wide, a crunching blow hits from behind
I'm wet with sweat and handcuffed to the TV set
She smiles the smile of someone in complete control
I'm on my knees and begging her for mercy please
...
My teeth are clenched
The room spins round and then gets drenched
I'm through, destroyed, she looks annoyed"
There's more, but you get the drift.
posted by workerant at 4:10 PM on August 11, 2008
Can't believe I forgot about this one:
The Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Sir Psycho Sexy". The whole song is a paen to dirty, crazy sex, but the last verse contains the priceless lyric,
posted by muddgirl at 4:30 PM on August 11, 2008
The Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Sir Psycho Sexy". The whole song is a paen to dirty, crazy sex, but the last verse contains the priceless lyric,
Bored by the ordinary time to take a tripI think the song is pretty sexy, but it may not be to other's taste :)
Calling up a little girl with a bull whip
Lickety split go snap "snap"
Girl gettin' off all in my lap
The tallest tree the sweetest sap
Blowin' my ass right off the map
posted by muddgirl at 4:30 PM on August 11, 2008
I'm convinced that Colbie Caillat's Bubbly is about an orgasm.
posted by i_am_a_fiesta at 6:20 PM on August 11, 2008
posted by i_am_a_fiesta at 6:20 PM on August 11, 2008
The Love and Rockets album Lift has two relevant songs, "Ghosts of the Multiple Feature" and "Delicious Ocean." There is disagreement among my friends about the intended meaning of the latter tune, though.
(Note: there are several strange typos on the Love and Rockets lyrics page - e.g., the line "shall I do this for a while" is posted as "shall I so this foe a while.")
Plenty of sexual references and ecstatic moaning in most Lords of Acid tunes, too.
posted by velvet winter at 9:09 PM on August 11, 2008
(Note: there are several strange typos on the Love and Rockets lyrics page - e.g., the line "shall I do this for a while" is posted as "shall I so this foe a while.")
Plenty of sexual references and ecstatic moaning in most Lords of Acid tunes, too.
posted by velvet winter at 9:09 PM on August 11, 2008
Barry Adamson: Set the Controls for the Heart of the Pelvis.
posted by Kerasia at 3:46 AM on August 12, 2008
posted by Kerasia at 3:46 AM on August 12, 2008
Inertia Creeps by Massive Attack. Not sure how that cleared thus far without a mention.
posted by pedantic at 9:30 PM on August 13, 2008
posted by pedantic at 9:30 PM on August 13, 2008
Drive by Melissa Ferrick sounds right up your alley:
Your mouth watersposted by Lush at 2:01 AM on August 14, 2008
Stretched out on my bed
Your fingers are trembling
And your heart is heavy and red
Your head is bent back
And your back is arched
...
Right here between your hips
This is where I want to live
It’s where all the love you give exists
Some versions of Jerry Lee Lewis´s ¨Whole Lotta Shakin´ Goin´ On¨.
posted by yohko at 11:01 AM on August 14, 2008
posted by yohko at 11:01 AM on August 14, 2008
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One of my favorite Pink Floyd deep tracks.
posted by muddgirl at 8:26 AM on August 11, 2008