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July 16, 2018 8:40 AM   Subscribe

I moved to NYC in the spring, and transferred within my firm for the sake of having a job ready for my arrival. The job was lost, and now I'm about to lose my place of residence. Please help me prepare; more below the cut.

I realize now that I'm ranting because anxious, so tl;dr: I'm unemployed and about to get kicked out of my apartment, for which I don't have the protection of a lease. How do I successfully stabilize myself? For details, please read further.

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When I moved to NYC, things were looking pretty good: the transfer came with enough of a pay raise to allow me to live in a childhood friend's spare room, I was living with someone I know, and I was meeting new people. Unfortunately, the job turned out to be hell: I'm a paralegal, they'd just fired their secretary and needed a body, and they didn't tell me that my job duties would change 100%. Combined with what I will as politely as possible call a very poor fit in the NYC work culture (as related to their secretaries), I did not last very long, and was fired a month ago.

Two weeks into my unemployment my second landlord, who was frustrated by what appeared (to him) to be zero effort on my part to find a new job, pulled me into a "come to Jesus" conversation where he a) insinuated that not pounding the pavement/doors daily until I found another job meant that I was lazy, b) that if I didn't have a job by the end of the month I didn't have what it takes to live in New York, and c) that if I didn't find a job soon, I would be kicked out. Not for nonpayment - even without UI I have enough to pay rent next month, my childhood friend/other landlord gave me the tiny spare room as a favor, and the landlord made clear that they don't need the extra money - but for his own reasons. He then strongarmed me into a photoshoot so that I could update LinkedIn, etc., which was VERY generous of him to offer for free (he is a professional). When we were done, I thanked him profusely.

Unfortunately, once everything settled in the next morning, it triggered a spiral of anxiety attacks that replaced my prior calm. I had every reason to take some time off, and was planning to use unemployment for a month while gradually working myself back into full-time employment. By the time I'd had a permanent position, my side-business would also have been up and running. I might have shared this plan with him had he not completely overrode me every time I tried to explain myself. Things have been very tense since.

I admit fault in not just swallowing the event and being friendly despite that, though my primary reaction was just to withdraw quietly and mind my business entirely. I did cry in front of my childhood friend, though she was basically like "X is just a type A personality and he was just trying to help...talk to him or get over it." I couldn't, and he didn't bother to talk to me very much after that conversation. I appreciated his attempt to help me, and I made this very clear, but that wasn't enough. I also didn't press for the photos: they have a $300 value that I couldn't afford to pony up, I no longer felt comfortable asking him to about the favor of taking said photos for free, etc.

Last night, I overheard both landlords discussing kicking me out with other people. I had kind of gauged that something like that would happen - my friend's been setting off alarm bells for me mentally, as she's closed off and also made me feel bad for not immediately busting my ass to get a job. My subtle attempt to try and get her to fess up to wanting to kick me out only led to my being gaslit.

We've also both changed: she's definitely more social, and has made the necessary personal changes to thrive in the city. But she is more likely to gossip and side-swipe about her other friends (including her friend/my landlord) as a means of letting off steam; lies way more to and on other people; and developed a bad habit of casually ascribing ulterior or otherwise shitty motives to people's behavior, which nearly caused an unrelated-to-unemployment conflict between me and the other landlord. She is also concerned with leverage: when I first moved in, she made this off comment about how I was basically at their mercy and dependent on their goodwill, and it bothered me for reasons that I now understand.

My private practice of my African Traditional Religion also makes her feel judged, no matter how clear I made it that we don't proselytize, I have zero interest in convincing her to walk this path, etc. But it did lead to lifestyle changes that made me a different person: it has chilled me out, I have a very strict taboo against gossip and, while I definitely still drink, I'm just not in a place where I can (or should) keep up with her. We've been able to have deep philosophical and spiritual conversations for the vast majority of the time that I've known her (since we were 5), but those conversations have grown increasingly tinged by her subtle accusations that I think I'm better than her/more spiritually pure (bullshit). Her judgment of my decision to get involved in a hierarchical system that has rules she doesn't like or understand has also led to her questioning MY judgment, including my decision to take a bit of time off.

Otherwise, my practice of the ATR has not been a problem. The other landlord was fascinated by my practice, his friends have tapped me on their own for spiritual guidance (as well as his live-in partner, repeatedly), etc. Each person in the house has used me as a vault for a number of secrets, though I had to dance around the landlord and his partner's separate requests for guidance on their relationship due to the massive conflict of interest and potential drama. And many of the people they've introduced me to ended up right across the table from me engaged in deep conversation, and they've always been really fun and excited to see me when I do appear (something that made my childhood friend visibly jealous, and she snarked at me once for it). Since being unemployed and that tense conversation, however, my landlords stopped inviting me out with them.

I really, really don't want to fight being thrown out because of how hostile things can get, and so I'm looking for other options. Assume that my friend would be willing to tap into the 5-digit-number in her savings account to lawyer up if she needed to. Assume that I definitely don't have the money to hop over to a new apartment right now. I also have no idea how unemployment claims work, so while I filed last week I don't know when that payment will click in. I have nearly $800 on-hand. I also do not know when they intend to kick me out and how long they will give me; only that the axe of it is hanging overhead.

Thank you for your help.
posted by Ashen to Human Relations (14 answers total) 2 users marked this as a favorite
 
If you want to stay in New York, you pretty much need to stay in good with these folks because I don't think you can get any other place for a month for $800. If that means having to do the things they think you ought to be doing instead of following your own plan, that's part of the price you are paying for this room. As you have observed, this is one of the problems with depending on someone's goodwill instead of paying more money to a landlord you don't know.

If the group you used to work with in the old city was happy with your work, you might see if they would take you back -- you'll need to be open with them about loosing your job as it sounds like this is another branch of the same company and you'll want to be certain there are no issues with you being hired again at another location. I don't know what rents are like in your previous city, but if $800 is enough to secure a place to live this might be your best option.
posted by yohko at 9:03 AM on July 16, 2018 [2 favorites]


Just a question: if you got a job or started pounding the pavement to get one right away, would that buy you some time?

The way I see it, apparently "rent" in this strange place you're staying includes (a) money you pay each month, (b) having or working hard to have a job.

It seems like you should move out asap due to the personality issues and tensions. But it will be hard to do so without a job and with only $800, though you can certainly try to find a room in a shared house. But I think you would need at least a security deposit and first month's rent, which together could be $1400 or more (I don't know NY, but those are low, best-case-scenario Oakland estimates). To me, it seems like you need some income asap, to get that $1400 in your bank account above whatever you will be paying them rent in Aug 1, so I'd do everything you can to get income flowing, both via side stuff and via pounding the pavement or whatever. Then, I'd ask if they're willing to let you stay at least one more month. But I wouldn't ask until you've demonstrated that you're on your way to getting a job.
posted by salvia at 9:08 AM on July 16, 2018


You could try getting a temp gig to make a little money in order to move out (as it doesn’t sound like a sustainable living situation) The Posse List is a mailing list that includes short contracts and document review positions for paralegals and from what I’ve seen they often start immediately.
posted by SpaceWarp13 at 9:11 AM on July 16, 2018 [2 favorites]


I think the key piece of information they want, but don't want to directly ask is: Are you intending to stay with them long-term without paying them? I get the sense that this is their private fear and it doesn't sound like you've offered a ton of specifics to allay it.

"I... was planning to use unemployment for a month while gradually working myself back into full-time employment. By the time I'd had a permanent position, my side-business would also have been up and running."

If someone said this, I would find it kind of sketchy, honestly. Try to set aside what they can afford and their motivation to rent to you. I think you should focus on methodically and calmly sharing the specifics of your plan to find employment, focusing on facts alone:

It could be something along the lines of:

-Thank you for letting me live with you during this stressful time
-I wish I could have kept my full-time job, and I know you would have preferred this too
-I have applied for X jobs in the past 2 weeks
-My next steps are XYZ (connecting with paralegal society if there is one, signing up for temp agencies to get money flowing)
-Do you have any other leads I can follow-up with?
-I will give you another update in a week.

You know in your own mind that you are motivated to find full-time employment, but I don't see that it's been transmitted to them. (To be honest, I find the level of sharing here a bit over-the-top and I'd probably be offended if I was expected to share this much, but as yohko mentioned, this seems like the price of admission to this cheap rent situation.)
posted by cranberrymonger at 9:18 AM on July 16, 2018 [2 favorites]


IANYL. As a month-to-month tenant without a written lease in NYC, you have a right to 30 days' notice of termination of lease. I agree that you don't want to fight this out in court, but being aware of your rights helps you have leverage in the unpleasant conversation that seems to be coming. I imagine they're expecting that you're not aware of this. Just treat it as the base default assumption of how much time you'll need to move out.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you really need to be aware of this: if you were fired for cause, you are technically ineligible for unemployment insurance payments. However, your employer may not contest the claim, so you may still receive them. (There is an unpaid week "elimination period." Note that you must reapply for every week of unemployment.) Their rent includes board and is pegged to salary.

Once you are employed again, you need to get out of there. If you are comfortable IDing as a woman (not clear from your bio) and if it wouldn't interfere with your religious practice, I'd consider looking at the Webster Apartments for short-term residence for the fall, until you have time to save up for 1 month's + security, which, as you probably know, is the minimum you'll need for your own place or even for most sharing situations.
posted by praemunire at 9:32 AM on July 16, 2018 [5 favorites]


Perhaps focusing on finding a job, perhaps a short-term contract or part-time, just to keep you going with some income would help the most. If you could find a library or quiet coffee shop with good wifi, where you can send applications or even do some work if you do get a gig, that would get out of the house for large stretches of time. That would reduce interaction with your housemates, which seems to be fraught with conflict. I would try to move on, and reduce the impact you make on the household simply by being there. If you're always out during the day, you can tell them you're pounding the pavement or following up on leads, whatever little bit of information that will defuse their criticism and over-involvement in your work and private life. I think pulling back would help you emotionally and practically, because if you're not there to hear criticism or gossip about you, you won't have to react, even internally.

You don't need their approval about your religious practices or anything else, but I sense this is somehow important to you.You are a competent person, and we all have episodes in our lives that cause us to doubt our decisions. They are imposing themselves on you, and you are feeling vulnerable. Please, please try to disengage. Focus on securing income and reducing your footprint at their home. If you're not there and keep up with the rent, they have fewer grounds to evict you. If you have income and some security, you will have more options and will both feel more secure, and actually be more secure and in charge of your future.
posted by citygirl at 9:51 AM on July 16, 2018 [2 favorites]


(Sorry, the last sentence of my second paragraph should be the last of my third. Jet lag!)
posted by praemunire at 10:10 AM on July 16, 2018


From an anonymous Mefite:
I wrote this article on resources for people facing homelessness.
https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/life/homeless-shelters/

I don't want to put it in the thread myself since it's a self-link and, anyway, I prefer not to cross my personal and professional life on the site. I don't work with that client anymore and receive no money or any other form of compensation from clicks/page views, but maybe there's something in there that can help the OP.
posted by LobsterMitten at 11:28 AM on July 16, 2018


I would just tell them you found a temp job that starts tomorrow, get up and ready to go in the morning like usual, take your laptop with you to the library or wherever and apply for jobs until you find one. Then as soon as you have enough money to leave, leave! Alternatively, maybe look for monthly sublets on craigslist--you may be able to find one in the outer reaches of the boroughs that's just a flat $800 that's furnished and you can move in for a month without a deposit. They do exist and can buy you more time until you find stable income and housing.
posted by greta simone at 11:38 AM on July 16, 2018 [5 favorites]


Ok, first thing's first: give yourself time and space to take care of your mental health. Your living situation is hostile as well as toxic, so do whatever you can to stay out of there except for sleeping. Find a place in your neighborhood where you can feel relaxed and grounded, somewhere you will be safe from the hostility of your landlords, if only for a few hours at a time. It may take a few days of hanging out in the same spot for you to really feel comfortable there, but keep at it so you have a happy spot that can't be taken away from you.

Second (and similarly), put your focus on things you can control. You can't force employers to give you a job, you can't force landlords to rent to you, but take stock of your resources and try to be creative about what they can do for you, and where they might have a farther reach than they do in NYC. Even while you're looking for work in the city (temp or otherwise), and keeping an ear to the ground for places you might be able to stay, mentally prepare yourself to leave the city.

You don't have a support network where you are, but is there anywhere you do have one? Can you go somewhere with a lower cost of living, or other people who will let you stay for reduced rent while you job hunt?

I have a lot of empathy for your situation, as I'm also in the process of losing my housing while also unemployed (though in an expensive city on the other coast). And the landlords kicking me out (after 4 years as their roommate) used to be good friends of mine.

I wish you the best in staying sane. Don't lose sight of your health. Exercise whenever you can. Getting your heart rate up from exercise is great for clearing your head and giving you space to think of new avenues to pursue. When I'm working with intense anxiety over things I can't control, I find it useful to embrace the painful "truths" I can't stop thinking about and say "Ok. My roommates don't like me. So what? I can't solve that, but I can solve _______"

Really, really, consider this an opportunity to leave the city and try somewhere new. Your landlord is putting bullshit pressure on you that if you leave you can't "make it in New York", but that kind of shaming is ridiculous and comes from a place of privilege that you can't access right now. Do you really think it's going on your tombstone that you couldn't make it in NYC? You're up against huge, unexpected setbacks and if you leave the city, nobody is going to make note of your name and lock the gates behind you.

When my friend Heather took a bad fall while bouldering and broke her ankle (requiring surgery), she couldn't come climbing with us for close to a year and nobody said "she can't make it as a climber". We said "take care of your health, recover, get stronger, we'll happily welcome you back when you're better". Are there things she could've done to fall better? Maybe, but she was doing her best. Are there things you could've done to make your first transition to NYC better? Maybe, but you were doing your best at the time and yet still sustained a life-stability injury. Leaving New York to rehabilitate your life situation does not make you a failure.

Best of luck. Feel free to meMail me if you need to vent more.
posted by itesser at 11:57 AM on July 16, 2018 [4 favorites]


I agree that leaving New York might be your best option as long as you have somewhere to go that feels more comfortable to you. If you're not planning to leave the city then yes go to the library every day, send off a couple of job applications, and then do whatever you want. There are a lot of free or low-cost things to do. Think of yourself as a tourist enjoying a much earned low-budget vacation.
posted by mareli at 2:13 PM on July 16, 2018


I unfortunately cannot think of any names besides Atrium, but there are many temp agencies in Midtown.

Put on your good clothes and show up early in the morning with hard copies of your resume. You will fill out an application and some places will give you tests in MS Office. You will briefly meet with an interviewer (no time for a full -fledged interview). Then you call the agency every morning thereafter, first thing, to ask if they have anything for you. You must have a reliable cell phone with lots of minutes. I know that can be a challenge sometimes.

Maybe some other commenters can suggest some specific agencies to try?
posted by 8603 at 3:44 PM on July 16, 2018


https://www.atriumstaff.com/location/new-york-ny/
posted by 8603 at 3:47 PM on July 16, 2018


Response by poster: Thank you guys so much for the responses so far!

To clarify: I have one permanent and temporary-placement recruiter each; I just haven't gotten on them recently, as I wasn't yet ready to return. But I do need to resume hounding them, and I'll happily branch out to a new agency. I've accepted that my down-time is over, so *shrug* I have zero hesitation about getting into temp work at the very least. I'm just fretting about placement and how long that will take.

It has also been very difficult to quiet the alarm bells shouting "RELOCATE BEFORE THEY CONFRONT YOU," because of all of the associated shame/embarrassment/humiliation associated with being kicked out...so my addressing my housing situation has taken priority, even though I knew that I had a minimum of 30 days.
posted by Ashen at 4:41 PM on July 16, 2018


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