Zen and the art of Zen
March 2, 2008 8:40 PM Subscribe
Help me continue my Zen education.
I recently finished Hardcore Zen and it really struck a nerve in ways that other books on the topic have not. I'm looking for suggestions on continued reading. I noticed the "If you liked Hardcore Zen..." section in the back of the book, but I wasn't sure if any of those were worth anything or just a publisher's list.
I recently finished Hardcore Zen and it really struck a nerve in ways that other books on the topic have not. I'm looking for suggestions on continued reading. I noticed the "If you liked Hardcore Zen..." section in the back of the book, but I wasn't sure if any of those were worth anything or just a publisher's list.
Response by poster: Quick addendum: I'm already going to a local Zen center, so this is purely about more books to read.
posted by Roman Graves at 9:00 PM on March 2, 2008
posted by Roman Graves at 9:00 PM on March 2, 2008
ム!
posted by panamax at 9:09 PM on March 2, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by panamax at 9:09 PM on March 2, 2008 [1 favorite]
You should check out Zen Buddhism: A History by Heinrich Dumoulon. Although he's a no zen master, and I wouldn't trust him as an abosolute authority on complex buddhist concepts, Dumoulun did a good job tracing the development of zen from India to Japan. By the time you're done you'll have a good idea of all important zen figures and their basic ideas and experiences, which can help direct your further course of study.
posted by milarepa at 1:22 AM on March 3, 2008
posted by milarepa at 1:22 AM on March 3, 2008
Best answer: Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind by Shunryu Suzuki. This book has the read a chapter and just sit and go "aaahh" going for it. Just pulled it off the shelf, a bookmarker says "This fortune is afraid of the light. Take this fortune to a dark place, then read it.", and there's a cache of pictures of niece and nephew in the back that I had forgotten about.
posted by zengargoyle at 3:55 AM on March 3, 2008
posted by zengargoyle at 3:55 AM on March 3, 2008
Best answer: I would recommend Brad Warner's second book, Sit Down and Shut Up. I'll also second Noah Levine's Dharma Punx and his second book, Against the Stream, though Noah's books are from a Theravada/Vipassana perspective vs. Zen.
The Zen books I've gotten the most out of, besides Brad Warner's, are those by Robert Aitken. I particularly like Taking the Path of Zen, The Mind of Clover: Essays in Zen Buddhist Ethics, and The Dragon Who Never Sleeps: Verses for Zen Buddhist Practice.
None of these books will have the same "kicking Zen ass and taking names" feel that Hardcore Zen does. That book is uniquely effective in that regard.
posted by aebaxter at 3:59 AM on March 3, 2008
The Zen books I've gotten the most out of, besides Brad Warner's, are those by Robert Aitken. I particularly like Taking the Path of Zen, The Mind of Clover: Essays in Zen Buddhist Ethics, and The Dragon Who Never Sleeps: Verses for Zen Buddhist Practice.
None of these books will have the same "kicking Zen ass and taking names" feel that Hardcore Zen does. That book is uniquely effective in that regard.
posted by aebaxter at 3:59 AM on March 3, 2008
Of course, you can't practice Zen on your own - you need a master (a true master) who can help you and guide the way.
Of course you can.
posted by headnsouth at 4:11 AM on March 3, 2008
Of course you can.
posted by headnsouth at 4:11 AM on March 3, 2008
Stanford have an ongoing translation of the Shobogenzo online.
posted by Abiezer at 4:29 AM on March 3, 2008
posted by Abiezer at 4:29 AM on March 3, 2008
Response by poster: I haven't, Sero. Any particular recommendations?
posted by Roman Graves at 2:53 PM on March 3, 2008
posted by Roman Graves at 2:53 PM on March 3, 2008
Best answer: "The Way of Zen" (by Alan Watts) is a very nice book. I'd recommend that one :)
posted by sero_venientibus_ossa at 6:38 AM on March 5, 2008
posted by sero_venientibus_ossa at 6:38 AM on March 5, 2008
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I also can read Japanese, and there are any number of books in Japanese about Zen. When I asked about what books I should read, I was discouraged from doing so, because it would be confusing.
Rather, learning how to sit at seated meditation was what I should master first. Of course, you can't practice Zen on your own - you need a master (a true master) who can help you and guide the way.
But the Essence of Zen (linked above) has a lot in it.
Probably the advice that sticks in my mind on a day-to-day basis is:
Wash out your bowl and put it away.
posted by KokuRyu at 8:52 PM on March 2, 2008