Stopping the blog spammers
June 27, 2006 1:08 PM Subscribe
I want to start a Wikipedia page featuring the domains of blog spammers. Does one already exist?
Are you aware that most of that is being done through zombies and open proxies? In other words, the IP you see isn't the actual IP of the spammer. Rather, it's the IP of some poor schmuck whose computer has been compromised by a worm or trojan.
And there are tens of thousands of them, and they change constantly. A list such as the one you're proposing would be terribly difficult to maintain, and wouldn't be of any use in stopping spam.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 1:16 PM on June 27, 2006
And there are tens of thousands of them, and they change constantly. A list such as the one you're proposing would be terribly difficult to maintain, and wouldn't be of any use in stopping spam.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 1:16 PM on June 27, 2006
Even if you do get the IP of the actual spammer, it's on a throwaway dial-up account most likely paid for through the use of stolen credit cards.
Or, you've tracked them back to Chinese or Brazilian "bullet-proof" servers.
posted by thanotopsis at 1:18 PM on June 27, 2006
Or, you've tracked them back to Chinese or Brazilian "bullet-proof" servers.
posted by thanotopsis at 1:18 PM on June 27, 2006
If you did find them, why give them publicity? That's what they want. You're not going to shame them out of selling cheap-penis-enlarging-low-interest-rate-mortgages. If they had shame, they wouldn't have sold their soul to the devil.
posted by tastybrains at 1:18 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by tastybrains at 1:18 PM on June 27, 2006
Please don't do this. It's a dumb idea. IP addresses change and/or are spoofed. Not only that, but it isn't remotely an appropriate use of a Wikipedia page IMO.
posted by unSane at 1:18 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by unSane at 1:18 PM on June 27, 2006
Don't do this on Wikipedia. It violates several Wikipedia policies and guidelines: no original research; all material must be verifiable through an external, published source; "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information."
posted by mbrubeck at 1:19 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by mbrubeck at 1:19 PM on June 27, 2006
chongqed.org has a database of spammers' domains. (Spammers' domains change less frequently than their IP addresses.)
Jay Allen explains why he didn't include an IP blacklist in his popular anti-comment-spam plugin for Movable Type.
posted by mbrubeck at 1:23 PM on June 27, 2006
Jay Allen explains why he didn't include an IP blacklist in his popular anti-comment-spam plugin for Movable Type.
posted by mbrubeck at 1:23 PM on June 27, 2006
If you really want to do this, don't make a Wikipedia page, make a DNSBL.
But you probably don't want to do it at all, for the reasons listed above.
posted by Mwongozi at 1:27 PM on June 27, 2006
But you probably don't want to do it at all, for the reasons listed above.
posted by Mwongozi at 1:27 PM on June 27, 2006
Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.
posted by beerbajay at 1:34 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by beerbajay at 1:34 PM on June 27, 2006
A really bad idea. If someone gave you this idea, tell them it's really a bad idea.
posted by justgary at 1:46 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by justgary at 1:46 PM on June 27, 2006
I agree with everyone else that it's a bad idea and violates Wikipedia policies. But I also wanted to point out that there are several places on Wikipedia itself where you can ask questions and get answers from helpful Wikipedians. (Not that you can't ask them here too. This is just a pointer, not a callout.)
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 2:06 PM on June 27, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 2:06 PM on June 27, 2006 [1 favorite]
I agree, this is NOT something that should be done. Please review Wikipedia's pages on policy to see how best to contribute.
posted by crypticgeek at 4:47 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by crypticgeek at 4:47 PM on June 27, 2006
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If not, what would you recommend naming it?
posted by bamassippi at 1:12 PM on June 27, 2006