Will be gut reno-ing a large master bath. What would you include?
February 20, 2020 7:16 PM   Subscribe

A la this question about kitchens, I'm going to be doing a gut reno of our weirdly large, aggressively beige master bathroom in the next year. We have the structural elements more or less complete--long wall of quartz counters, double sinks, and mirrored medicine cabinets, with shower and jetted tub on the other wall. (The jetted tub is mandatory. I know soaking tubs are beautiful and all the rage but I want to be pummeled with water.) Beyond those basics, what neat stuff would be in your ideal master bath? Are there particular, say, toilet or shower features that are mandatory for you? Do you insist on/always tear out a built-in lighted makeup mirror? Key data point: I live in Houston, land of permanent year-round indoor temperatures managed with a/c.
posted by anthropomorphic to Home & Garden (34 answers total) 24 users marked this as a favorite
 
Hot water line for your toilet and an appropriate bidet attachment for your toiler maybe? Works best if you also have a hot water circulator so you don't have to run the bidet on clean mode to get hot water to start. Small mini room with just the toilet in it.
posted by cmm at 7:23 PM on February 20, 2020 [6 favorites]


Heated floors or gfto.

I hate when showers have no storage shelves, or only the tiniest little things - I have way too much stuff for that. I've encountered a fair number of minimalist glass and stone cubes that don't even have a spot for soap, like we're gonna lather up elsewhere or something.
posted by Mizu at 7:26 PM on February 20, 2020 [11 favorites]


Wall-mounted toilet, for ease of cleaning around.
posted by jon1270 at 7:29 PM on February 20, 2020 [4 favorites]


Ample blank wall space for towel racks, not in a place where a door will open into them.

A GFCI outlet near the toilet for a bidet.

A bench in the shower. Enough shelves for shampoo and soap for all the people who may be using the shower.
posted by bondcliff at 7:30 PM on February 20, 2020 [2 favorites]


Heated towel rack, adjustable makeup lighting, and someplace to set a glass of wine in arm’s reach of that jetted tub.
posted by armeowda at 7:34 PM on February 20, 2020 [3 favorites]


It never ceases to amaze me how many seriously expensive homes and hotels I’ve been in that have failed to place some hooks so I don’t have to step out of the shower and drip water all the way across the damn room to get my towel and robe. Hooks! Within reach of the shower! It’s just common sense!
posted by minervous at 7:36 PM on February 20, 2020 [18 favorites]


Me, I want a walk-in shower with a bench, dual shower heads, chill lights and some kind of reasonable speaker situation. And yeah, I'd take a furo over a jetted tub any day, but that's because I have a jetted tub and hate it. You know what you like, though.

My sister-in-law sings the praises of her recently installed steam shower—it's like unto the first martini of the evening apparently—which I gather is sauna-adjacent, but moist. It seems to involve adding a plumbed hot fog machine and a tight-fitting gasketed door to your existing shower, rather than being its own weird chamber. YMMV in Houston on the moist heat front.
posted by mumkin at 7:42 PM on February 20, 2020 [1 favorite]


A few things that I've used and enjoyed in really nice bathrooms.

- space for... stuff. Both in the shower but also around the tub. Make sure the tub also has a nice handheld attachment for washing hair (and is easy to get in and out of). I also bought one of those tub-spanning shelf things for a book and a drink and I really like it.
- one of those temperature dials in the shower where you set it once and then in the future you just flip it to ON (these must have a name) so you can have the shower basically always turn on to your preferred temperature (simpler if you and a partner agree on the temp you like)
- timed quiet vent fans so you can leave the bathroom, hit the vent fan and it will turn off without you having to go back to turn it on
- lots of adjustable lighting so you can have the whole bathroom dark and a light in the shower,or the tub.
- a closet to put cleaning supplies and spare bathroom toiletries (paper products but also stuff for guests) so you don't have to go to another room/bathroom to get more TP or a mop
- TILE - find some classic tiling and stick with it unless for some reason you have a rustic look. It's cool to the touch, easy to clean, looks nice.
- inset shelves for towels so that you can have a few hanging to dry but a bunch more folded and ready to use
- dual showers are nice, where there's like a rain-simulator showerhead on one side and a handheld sandblaster on the other
- if this is your forever home, think about future accessibility and look for some unobtrusive grips you can put in to help with getting into/out of the tub

This may put me in the minority but I kinda hate drawers in bathrooms. They tend to fill up with crud and are often difficult to keep clean compared to a medicine cabinet and some good storage in a closet or shelf.
posted by jessamyn at 7:45 PM on February 20, 2020 [4 favorites]


A serious exhaust fan for long showers. When I did a bathroom gut renovation, I put in a 100 CFM squirrel cage blower, very oversized for the small bathroom. I like my long showers ...

Also a skylight, if there's a roof just overhead. We've done that in two houses now.
posted by intermod at 7:57 PM on February 20, 2020 [7 favorites]


Panasonic has a quiet exhaust fan. That's an extra few bucks that we've never regretted.

The other bit I'm thankful for thinking through in advance was paying a lot of attention to materials and lighting. We avoided ugly early morning glare by going with surfaces and lighting choices that weren't highly reflective.

If you can arrange for a walk-through with the electrician, choose switch locations for where you'd expect them to be in the dark.
posted by dws at 8:05 PM on February 20, 2020 [1 favorite]


Whatever you do, consider the impact on the cleaning. OK here is my list of things that just make things pleasant related to a master bathroom:

1) Toto toilet with a washlet. Seriously, it is fabulous and it will be hard to go back. If you can separate in some manner the toilet area from the rest of the bathroom or at least remove it from any strategic line of sight;

2) Wall insets within the shower area to hold bathroom products;

3) floating counter with storage;

4) GFCI outlets along the counter space within code;

5) a drawer space that is dedicated to plug in items which conveniently lets you fish power cords through to the GFCI outlets. You don't want your counter cluttered with all the electric items including toothbrushes, shavers; hair-dryer, and anything else that requires electricity;

6) figure out exactly where you plant to store cleaning items because you want to make cleaning the bathroom painless;

7) figure out where your hooks, toilet paper holder; towels are going to be stored and deployed;

8) Would life be more pleasant if you had a sequestered area that has a washer dryer system? Otherwise, where do does the dirty laundry go?

9) heated floors are real nice;

10) do not skimp in quality with your tile. Get the best tile for you space and seriously the same with the plumbing fixtures;

11) thermostatically controlled shower. Get the temperature exactly the way you want;

12) I believe in having a separate hand-held shower head in addition to a rainfall showerhead to wash for reasons.

I am excited for you. Also, be sure, especially in the case of the jet tub that access panels are truly accessible for repairs and maintenance.
posted by jadepearl at 8:25 PM on February 20, 2020 [2 favorites]


How long do you plan on living there? One of the big wins of my father's house was that after retirement (and his stroke) his bathroom had no steps going into it or into the shower. It's not a fun thought but consider if you can make it as accessible as possible. Space next to the toilet to transfer in/out of a chair. Space to roll into the shower stall or at least have the bench in there to sit on (nice on those low energy days).

In happier thoughts, think about what height you actually want the counters and sinks at? What about the faucets? Do you like turning the knobs or is one of those tap up or down style easier to use?
posted by ladyriffraff at 8:37 PM on February 20, 2020 [6 favorites]


I have a 24” square rain shower head. Ours is a forbidden love, but we are very very happy together.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 8:45 PM on February 20, 2020 [1 favorite]


Two things I dont see in the US much: Infrared heat lamps for warmth and drying off either overhead or wall mounted and a recirculating heater for bath water so you can stay in there forever. For. Ever.
posted by fshgrl at 8:59 PM on February 20, 2020 [3 favorites]


You should have a floor drain, with a hose faucet in the maintenance closet. Maybe an outlet for the central vac in the maintenance closet.

Urinal.

All tile mounted on cement board.

Undersink water heater.

Wall-hung toilet for easy cleaning.

Adequate plumbing access.
posted by H21 at 9:17 PM on February 20, 2020 [1 favorite]


All tile in shower and bathroom floor should be textured so they're not slippery when wet.
posted by lois1950 at 10:09 PM on February 20, 2020 [1 favorite]


A frosted window that you can open.
posted by NotLost at 10:21 PM on February 20, 2020


Tell your builder to put solid blocking in the walls, from 24" to 40" high. Anything mounted on the wall will be an ad-hoc grab bar in case of a slip.

Grab bars in the shower, at minimum.

Use towel bars that double as grab bars.

I really like nooks in the shower to hold your soap and such. Maybe some hooks to hold washcloths and buffs.

GFI outlet near the floor near the toilet, to power a bidet seat.

You could dedicate one drawer to all your bathroom electrics (hair dryer, shaver) and install an outlet under the sink to power them. Put a power strip in the drawer to power them.

Make sure the access hatches for the tub pumps aren't blocked. If possible, install access panels on the wall opposite the plumbing. My shower valve wall is opposite the fridge, so the few times I've had to get to it I didn't have to rip out the wall.

If your washer/dryer is down below, add a laundry chute. Or if the room is big enough, put them in a separate closet.

Are you going to want cable or internet access? Add the wiring now.

One other thing: spec your plumbing so all shutoff valves are 1/4 turn ball valves. Most folks use these as a matter of course, but a few plumbers still used the multi turn. They are a really pia to use, and usually you'll need to use them at 3am, with water leaking everywhere.
posted by Marky at 10:44 PM on February 20, 2020 [2 favorites]


I installed a reading light on a flexible arm by my bathtub - it feels very cozy to turn off the harsh overheads and have just enough light to read by, pointed straight at my book.

A nearer-Asia alternative to a washlet is a bidetta hand shower by the loo. Surprisingly useful for washing other things off as well, including cleaning the litter box.
posted by I claim sanctuary at 11:35 PM on February 20, 2020


Motion activated LED lighting mounted near baseboards to act as a nightlight.
I’m thinking of getting some to put under the upper kitchen cabinets as sort of moody after hours task lighting, but obviously you could put them anywhere. I’ve seen both battery powered and plug-in types but have not yet tried any, don’t have any particular brands to recommend.
posted by janepanic at 2:41 AM on February 21, 2020


This depends on whether it is a house, condo, or a city apartment - but the best thing I did is plan a retractable faucet (like those that fold back above stoves for pasta) in the shower that is just a little higher than a 5 gallon bucket. I don't have a laundry room or a big kitchen and this will make cleaning way easier for buckets and mop water.

The thing I'd say to avoid is white grout. It looks SO GOOD for the first 3 months and then it is an eternal struggle to keep clean regardless of how much you babysit it.
posted by Tchad at 3:48 AM on February 21, 2020 [2 favorites]


Alcoves, not shelving, in the shower.
Counters that are height appropriate
Separate toilet room with door
Outlets/power strips inside the cabinets and drawers
Deep drawers for hair dryers etc but shallowish/tallish shelving so items don't get too deeply stacked
Seating in the shower
posted by beaning at 5:47 AM on February 21, 2020


If you do tile in your bath/shower enclosure, use epoxy grout for the install. It'll cost a bunch more, but you'll clean it a lot less and it'll look great for a lot longer than cementitious grout.

Also, not really a feature, but if you're doing a gut reno, might as well ensure that the bath/shower enclosure is appropriately waterproofed (you'd be surprised how many aren't, and cause water damage over time).
posted by rachaelfaith at 6:04 AM on February 21, 2020 [4 favorites]


Strong, strong agreement for choosing a tub/shower setup that will work for you if (when) a bathroom user may have temporary or permanent mobility impairments in the future. Room for a bench is key; hand-held showerhead is a plus (but those could be installed later if needed). Space around the toilet for a toilet chair and wheelchair transfers. It's not something folks seem to think they will need, but statistically, it's not unlikely.

Also, my parents' house has a bathroom window that has the most beautiful plant in it - a lot of them looove the humid bathroom environment. I would love to have a suitable spot for something like that in the future.

Separate/adequate lighting in the shower area itself. Game-changer over using the other bathroom lights.
posted by mosst at 6:36 AM on February 21, 2020 [2 favorites]


It may be too late for this but the greatest thing about our master bath is that it is two half baths connected by a shower. There are two doors, we each have our own sink, vanity, toilet and cabinets that we don’t have to share, and then there is a shared shower. (We do not have a tub and mostly I don’t care about that.) I will renovate any next home we live in to replicate this; it substantially contributes to marital peace. I don’t have to clean up after him, he doesn’t get overwhelmed by all my products.
posted by emkelley at 6:47 AM on February 21, 2020 [2 favorites]


A lot of this may have been said already, but here is what I'd be wanting in a major renovation:

- Toilet with an excellent flush rating
- Non-slip tiles
- Adequate storage shelves in tub and shower
- Storage for extra rolls of TP within easy reach of the toilet
- Bidet - I'm not a fan but I agree with setting up the plumbing and electrical now to be ready for adding bidet features later.
- Vent(s) on timers
- Enough drawers/cupboards/cabinets to hold anything you don't want sitting out in plain sight
- Undermount sinks for easier counter cleaning
- Ideally a floor drain, through this isn't always possible
- Flexible lighting options (eg, great mirror lights; dim option for relaxing in the bath; etc)
posted by Dip Flash at 6:50 AM on February 21, 2020


Agreeing with all that mentioned accommodations for mobility. After dealing with elderly parents and a husband who was injured in a car accident, a roomy bathroom with a roll in shower complete with removable shower head would have been a dream.
posted by Sialia at 7:40 AM on February 21, 2020


Basically free if you're installing a new fan anyway: get one with a built-in light. Easy way to add more light without more wiring.

TBH I'm happier with this Oxo wall-suction soap dish over a built-in shelf, because I can remove it and clean it easily. Their suction hooks are also pretty great and I can move them around if the initial position wasn't perfect.

More on choosing bathroom lights: all those individual bulbs or sconces look cute but are annoying to clean and will be covered in crud in a month. Get something that's smooth and easy to wipe off if you're mounting lights to the wall.
posted by asperity at 8:53 AM on February 21, 2020


Large capacity medicine cabinets with outlets inside so that charging toothbrushes, etc can be tucked away.
posted by quince at 8:58 AM on February 21, 2020


We put in a closet for towels, cleaning supplies, stuff we don't use all the time but still want easily accessible, first aid, etc etc. Things are in clear bins - easier to keep neat and organised than pawing through a shitload of drawers when you're looking for nose hair clippers.
posted by Mary Ellen Carter at 9:25 AM on February 21, 2020


A hand-held shower makes cleaning the shower walls a lot easier.
posted by wryly at 9:55 AM on February 21, 2020


I've always found in-shower alcoves and shelves for product and stuff tend to be prime spots for grime to accumulate, so I'd personally vote against them. I use a removable SimpleHuman tension shower caddy and it stays out of the way, doesn't collect grime, and looks great.

Nthing grab bars in/near the shower and near the toilet, and hot water/GFCI outlet near the toilet for a bidet seat.
posted by Aleyn at 1:20 PM on February 21, 2020


We installed horizontal cabinets above the bathtub, with doors that swing up. Very nice for extra towels and TP. Otherwise wasted space along the top wall& ceiling.

Heat can make a luxurious micro-environment. Heated floors, a wall heater, and recirculating heater in the bathtub.

Multiple hooks on the back of the door for robes, change of clothes

Floor drain is more common in Europe. It is great for general hose down! Slosh soapy water everywhere and then spray it into the drain.

We had "hot mop" waterproofing in the shower, which is the old-fashioned method. I feel it's more flexible and repairable than a plastic shell.

Many good suggestions here for storage and organization. If you have a lot of products in your bathroom now, you'll need shelves/nooks in the shower, above the bathtub, and at the vanity/sink.

Bluetooth speakers with hardwired power.
posted by ohshenandoah at 7:17 PM on February 22, 2020


Site-built compost toilet (humanure handbook style). There's newish international code for it, at least one major US city (and probably plenty more) has said it's ok, and your water bill will plummet. More details available upon request.
posted by aniola at 8:31 PM on February 24, 2020 [2 favorites]


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