Ventilator blues
January 6, 2006 7:14 AM Subscribe
In traditional blues songs you sometime hear the term "ventilator".
I know it's a piece of modern medical equipment, but what the heck was Robert Johnson talking about in the 1930s?
I'm almost completely certain he's referring to a gun.
posted by Prospero at 7:23 AM on January 6, 2006
posted by Prospero at 7:23 AM on January 6, 2006
Yeah, can we get some specific lyrics? Context would be extremely helpful.
posted by spicynuts at 7:25 AM on January 6, 2006
posted by spicynuts at 7:25 AM on January 6, 2006
Rolling Stones - Ventilator Blues
"Don't matter where you are,
Ev'rybody's gonna need a ventilator.
When you're trapped and circled with no second chances,
Your code of living is your gun in hand."
So I'd agree with Prospero
posted by Leon at 7:26 AM on January 6, 2006
"Don't matter where you are,
Ev'rybody's gonna need a ventilator.
When you're trapped and circled with no second chances,
Your code of living is your gun in hand."
So I'd agree with Prospero
posted by Leon at 7:26 AM on January 6, 2006
After googling for some Robert Johnson lyrics involving 'ventilator' I came up empty handed.
However, this Rolling Stones song, "Ventilator Blues" does seem to back up what Prospero said. Here's some lyrics:
don't matter where you are,
ev'rybody's gonna need a ventilator.
When you're trapped and circled with no second chances,
your code of living is your gun in hand.
posted by dead_ at 7:29 AM on January 6, 2006
However, this Rolling Stones song, "Ventilator Blues" does seem to back up what Prospero said. Here's some lyrics:
don't matter where you are,
ev'rybody's gonna need a ventilator.
When you're trapped and circled with no second chances,
your code of living is your gun in hand.
posted by dead_ at 7:29 AM on January 6, 2006
Response by poster: But then there is this:
Ain't nobody slowing down no way,
ev'rybody's stepping on their accelerator,
don't matter where you are,
ev'rybody's gonna need a ventilator.
posted by punkfloyd at 7:30 AM on January 6, 2006
Ain't nobody slowing down no way,
ev'rybody's stepping on their accelerator,
don't matter where you are,
ev'rybody's gonna need a ventilator.
posted by punkfloyd at 7:30 AM on January 6, 2006
On a side note, I had never really heard this term used to mean "gun" before, but it makes me wonder if the word "heater" that is so commonly used to mean "gun" in rap these days, derives from original blues usage of the word ventilator.
posted by dead_ at 7:32 AM on January 6, 2006
posted by dead_ at 7:32 AM on January 6, 2006
Can't find the link, but I believe the idea is that if I shoot you full of holes, you're been ventilated.
posted by desuetude at 7:33 AM on January 6, 2006
posted by desuetude at 7:33 AM on January 6, 2006
Ventilate: to shoot someone ("You're gonna be so ventilated that when you take your next swig of hooch you'll spout like a fountain!")
So yes, a gun.
posted by staggernation at 7:34 AM on January 6, 2006
So yes, a gun.
posted by staggernation at 7:34 AM on January 6, 2006
Really, when you think about it, in blues and rock there are really only a few objects/people that need or get code words:
cocks, balls, assess, vaginas, guns, drugs, alcohol, cops, cars and girls/women. So, most likely it's a gun.
posted by spicynuts at 7:36 AM on January 6, 2006
cocks, balls, assess, vaginas, guns, drugs, alcohol, cops, cars and girls/women. So, most likely it's a gun.
posted by spicynuts at 7:36 AM on January 6, 2006
You must not be watching enough old gangster movies. A ventilator is a lovely little device which allows air to flow through portions of the human body formerly occupied by blood.
posted by caddis at 7:53 AM on January 6, 2006
posted by caddis at 7:53 AM on January 6, 2006
Ventilator as gun: 'cause it puts holes in you. I agree.
What did it say on the old bluesman's grave?
Didn't wake up this morning.
posted by Savannah at 7:53 AM on January 6, 2006
What did it say on the old bluesman's grave?
Didn't wake up this morning.
posted by Savannah at 7:53 AM on January 6, 2006
makes me wonder if the word "heater" that is so commonly used to mean "gun" ... derives from original blues usage of the word ventilator.
I'd mark the beginning of using "heater" for gun with the first broadcast of the original series Star Trek "A Piece of the Action" (ie the gangster planet) in January 1968.
posted by Rash at 9:25 AM on January 6, 2006
I'd mark the beginning of using "heater" for gun with the first broadcast of the original series Star Trek "A Piece of the Action" (ie the gangster planet) in January 1968.
posted by Rash at 9:25 AM on January 6, 2006
Nope. Used in the movie Lucky Jordan (1942) for one - saw it just last week
posted by A189Nut at 9:57 AM on January 6, 2006
posted by A189Nut at 9:57 AM on January 6, 2006
dead_ writes "but it makes me wonder if the word 'heater' that is so commonly used to mean 'gun' in rap these days, derives from original blues usage of the word ventilator."
Heater == Gun dates from at least the pulp detective novels of the 30s.
posted by Mitheral at 10:18 AM on January 6, 2006
Heater == Gun dates from at least the pulp detective novels of the 30s.
posted by Mitheral at 10:18 AM on January 6, 2006
I'd mark the beginning of using "heater"
You doity rat: heater, rod, gat and ventilator all date back at least as far as Prohibition (I think).
posted by yerfatma at 12:52 PM on January 6, 2006
You doity rat: heater, rod, gat and ventilator all date back at least as far as Prohibition (I think).
posted by yerfatma at 12:52 PM on January 6, 2006
Rash makes me laugh.
posted by Good Brain at 1:45 PM on January 6, 2006
posted by Good Brain at 1:45 PM on January 6, 2006
Ventilator == Gun, for the reasons caddis names.
Heater == Gun, because they get hot when you use them to ventilate things.
posted by Hildago at 4:06 PM on January 6, 2006
Heater == Gun, because they get hot when you use them to ventilate things.
posted by Hildago at 4:06 PM on January 6, 2006
"A Piece of the Action" was an entirely derivative homage to detective movies. Fun, but nothing new about it. (They wanted to save on the production budget by using existing costumes and sets on the Desilu lot.)
Heater and ventilator may come from hardboiled fiction, and nowhere else. A lot of the authors of the pulps made it up, the way Zane Grey made up his stories of life on the frontier.
posted by dhartung at 12:55 PM on January 7, 2006
Heater and ventilator may come from hardboiled fiction, and nowhere else. A lot of the authors of the pulps made it up, the way Zane Grey made up his stories of life on the frontier.
posted by dhartung at 12:55 PM on January 7, 2006
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posted by spicynuts at 7:18 AM on January 6, 2006