Looking for two Brexit video clips
April 10, 2024 11:36 AM Subscribe
I am searching for two video clips that have been rattling around in my brain from the early, pre-referendum Brexit times. Details within:
Of course, links to the actual videos would be ideal but I would also be interested to know if anyone else remembers these snippets, particularly who the commentators were in each.
Clip #1: A pro-Brexit commentator describes one of the advantages of Brexit as being able to negotiate directly with, say, Germany and play them off against, say, France. A different commentator points out that, no that's not possible because the EU negotiates as a single trading bloc.To my memory, both of these clips came from some kind of news/current affairs program where you have a panel of commentators seated around one of those big news presenter desks.
Clip #2: One commentator (not sure if pro- or anti-Brexit) expresses surprise that the UK is a small fraction of EU trade. Upon further discussion, the source of this commentator's surprise is revealed to be that they (correctly) understand that the EU comprises the majority of UK's trade but had somehow not understood that the total amount of trade the EU does is significantly larger than the UK's.
Of course, links to the actual videos would be ideal but I would also be interested to know if anyone else remembers these snippets, particularly who the commentators were in each.
Did you see these on US television or online or in a documentary— when did you see them, if you can recall?
posted by Ideefixe at 2:12 PM on April 10
posted by Ideefixe at 2:12 PM on April 10
Response by poster: > Ideefixe: "Did you see these on US television or online or in a documentary— when did you see them, if you can recall?"
When: Uncertain, but most likely 2016 but possibly as early as late 2015. Given my memory of these clips, they would have been prior to the referendum in June 2016 though my memory could be faulty here.
Where: Unfortunately, I definitely saw these clips online so the original broadcast could have been anywhere, though the format and participants seemed (in my memory) to be definitely British.
posted by mhum at 2:30 PM on April 10
When: Uncertain, but most likely 2016 but possibly as early as late 2015. Given my memory of these clips, they would have been prior to the referendum in June 2016 though my memory could be faulty here.
Where: Unfortunately, I definitely saw these clips online so the original broadcast could have been anywhere, though the format and participants seemed (in my memory) to be definitely British.
posted by mhum at 2:30 PM on April 10
Best answer: Not exactly what you describe, but there are elements of both in this clip from 2018.
posted by Busy Old Fool at 4:41 PM on April 10
posted by Busy Old Fool at 4:41 PM on April 10
Response by poster: > Busy Old Fool: "Not exactly what you describe, but there are elements of both in this clip from 2018."
That is, indeed, the exact clip I was thinking of for #2.
I didn't recall that this clip also had a bit about "bilateral" trade deals (which is definitely the same misunderstanding) but I'm still under the impression that I'm thinking of a different video for clip #1. I didn't previously mention it (for fear of possibly tainting/biasing/misleading the responses) but I did have the memory that the commentator in clip #2 was a woman while the commentator in clip #1 was a man. I guess now that I've broken that seal, I should maybe provide the (possibly misleading) clue that, in my memory, the commentator in clip #1 was David Davis, Theresa May's choice for Brexit czar. If it wasn't him, it seems like someone who had been repeating the same false talking points he had made in a speech from May 2016 or in this tweet ("Post #Brexit a UK-German deal would include free access for their cars and industrial goods, in exchange for a deal on everything else").
posted by mhum at 5:26 PM on April 10
That is, indeed, the exact clip I was thinking of for #2.
I didn't recall that this clip also had a bit about "bilateral" trade deals (which is definitely the same misunderstanding) but I'm still under the impression that I'm thinking of a different video for clip #1. I didn't previously mention it (for fear of possibly tainting/biasing/misleading the responses) but I did have the memory that the commentator in clip #2 was a woman while the commentator in clip #1 was a man. I guess now that I've broken that seal, I should maybe provide the (possibly misleading) clue that, in my memory, the commentator in clip #1 was David Davis, Theresa May's choice for Brexit czar. If it wasn't him, it seems like someone who had been repeating the same false talking points he had made in a speech from May 2016 or in this tweet ("Post #Brexit a UK-German deal would include free access for their cars and industrial goods, in exchange for a deal on everything else").
posted by mhum at 5:26 PM on April 10
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posted by Brandon Blatcher (staff) at 5:24 AM on April 11
posted by Brandon Blatcher (staff) at 5:24 AM on April 11
Response by poster: For the sake of the inevitable linkrot on Twitter, I'll just note here that the mistaken commentator in clip #2 was columnist Melanie Phillips, appearing on a Sky News program alongside Ian Dunt. Also, here is a YouTube version.
posted by mhum at 2:45 PM on April 12
posted by mhum at 2:45 PM on April 12
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There were also a few televised debates spread across national broadcasters ITV and Channel 4.
posted by k3ninho at 2:11 PM on April 10