How can I tell a graphite 400 Mhz G4 Mac Sawtooth (AGP) from a Yikes (PCI) without booting it?
August 23, 2004 7:24 PM
MacFilter: How can I tell a graphite 400 Mhz G4 Mac "Sawtooth" (AGP) model from a "Yikes!" (PCI) model without booting the machine (no monitor)? I'm not too technically inclined, so bonus points for answers in layman's terms.
Look at the back of the computer. The Yikes! computers have sound ports aligned horizontally, while the Sawtooth computers have vertically stacked ports. A diagram is included on this Apple support doc.
posted by letitrain at 7:38 PM on August 23, 2004
posted by letitrain at 7:38 PM on August 23, 2004
Oh, and the Yikes' video card plug is just VGA - the Sawtooth will have a VGA and a DVI (the white, rectangular plug receptor with lots of flat pins) out.
posted by jalexei at 7:38 PM on August 23, 2004
posted by jalexei at 7:38 PM on August 23, 2004
Thanks a ton! The diagrams were perfect, letitrain. (It's a Yikes! PCI).
posted by ScottUltra at 7:46 PM on August 23, 2004
posted by ScottUltra at 7:46 PM on August 23, 2004
Forgive if this is too obvious, but if yourself [or, for future reference purpose, someone like you] can open the side door and look at the logic board -- AGP slots are physically smaller than PCI, so on a Sawtooth, the video card's slot will be smaller than the three PCI slots next to it.
If the video card's slot is the same size as the other three, then it's a Yikes.
This is the case with all logic boards, not just Macs -- if the PCI slots have a smaller slot next to them, it's likely an AGP slot. [Of course, there are two new, faster PCI standards on the come-up, and I believe their slots are the same size as the current PCI standard. But for the purpose of this Graphite G4 question, go for the Sawtooth if you can.]
posted by britain at 8:39 PM on August 23, 2004
If the video card's slot is the same size as the other three, then it's a Yikes.
This is the case with all logic boards, not just Macs -- if the PCI slots have a smaller slot next to them, it's likely an AGP slot. [Of course, there are two new, faster PCI standards on the come-up, and I believe their slots are the same size as the current PCI standard. But for the purpose of this Graphite G4 question, go for the Sawtooth if you can.]
posted by britain at 8:39 PM on August 23, 2004
jalexei: not true. My AGP Sawtooth only has VGA out, because for the first nine months of shipping they all did. Grrrrr!
posted by bonaldi at 9:09 PM on August 23, 2004
posted by bonaldi at 9:09 PM on August 23, 2004
britain - Definitely not too obvious. I couldn't tell an AGP slot from a PCI slot if my life depended on it. Thanks.
posted by ScottUltra at 8:31 AM on August 24, 2004
posted by ScottUltra at 8:31 AM on August 24, 2004
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posted by jalexei at 7:33 PM on August 23, 2004