Peter Kreeft encounters Andrew Sullivan?
August 15, 2022 1:34 PM Subscribe
Hi MeFi,
Help me find something I recently read:
I was reading something by Peter Kreeft where he describes encountering Andrew Sullivan at some kind of conference. Sullivan is gay and Catholic, and challenged Kreeft on the Church's "hate the sin but love the sinner" teaching, as it applies to homosexuals.
In my memory, Sullivan says that it's not practically possible for Catholics to love homosexuals while hating everything about them, and Sullivan gives a long list. Kreeft responds something like, "that's valid. I'll have to give that some thought." Then Kreeft comments that Sullivan identifies as a gay Catholic, and asks, "well, which is it?"
I've spent a while searching on Google and can't find the article. Can you help?
Thanks!
In my memory, Sullivan says that it's not practically possible for Catholics to love homosexuals while hating everything about them, and Sullivan gives a long list. Kreeft responds something like, "that's valid. I'll have to give that some thought." Then Kreeft comments that Sullivan identifies as a gay Catholic, and asks, "well, which is it?"
I've spent a while searching on Google and can't find the article. Can you help?
Thanks!
Best answer: Could be this one, though it's not Andrew Sullivan.
posted by jquinby at 2:19 PM on August 15, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by jquinby at 2:19 PM on August 15, 2022 [1 favorite]
Knowing Sullivan, this is likely someone else.
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 3:52 PM on August 15, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 3:52 PM on August 15, 2022 [5 favorites]
Response by poster: @jquinby
That's obviously the same conversation, and the author of that blog post links it to Kreeft's book, "How To Win The Culture War". I visited my Dad in May for his birthday, and browsed that book. I expect that's where I read it. The only detail that doesn't match my memory is where Kreeft says,
For purposes of anonymity, I shall call my dialogue partner “Art.”
And I am (well, was) reasonably confident that Kreeft said it was Andrew Sullivan in the version I read. Thanks for the link.
If someone can find a version that definitively says it was or wasn't Andrew Sullivan, I'd still like to confirm that detail.
Thanks, y'all :-)
posted by takenRoad at 9:28 PM on August 15, 2022
That's obviously the same conversation, and the author of that blog post links it to Kreeft's book, "How To Win The Culture War". I visited my Dad in May for his birthday, and browsed that book. I expect that's where I read it. The only detail that doesn't match my memory is where Kreeft says,
For purposes of anonymity, I shall call my dialogue partner “Art.”
And I am (well, was) reasonably confident that Kreeft said it was Andrew Sullivan in the version I read. Thanks for the link.
If someone can find a version that definitively says it was or wasn't Andrew Sullivan, I'd still like to confirm that detail.
Thanks, y'all :-)
posted by takenRoad at 9:28 PM on August 15, 2022
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