What kind of dog would you recommend for my lifestyle?
July 8, 2010 6:10 AM Subscribe
What kind of dog would you recommend for my lifestyle?
Hi MeFites :) I am hoping to get a puppy in September, and it's a big decision for me and something I've been waiting to do for a *long* time (had to wait 10 years until we bought a house with a good sized yard) so I would love your help if you have a moment.
I'm very much a pets-for-life person and I want to make sure the type of dog I get will be right for my lifestyle so he or she is as happy and content as possible. To that end...
* I live with my husband in a semi-rural suburb in Tasmania. No kids nor plans for any in the immediate future.
* Our little house has a good-sized fully fenced back yard.
* We already have two cats so an indoors-only dog is not really an option I don't think.
* If possible I'd prefer a medium - large breed
* Apart from in winter I'd be able to walk / play / train with my dog each morning and evening. Winter is a concern for me though as it's freezing and foggy in the mornings, and well and truly dark by the time I get home from work - I'm wondering if I should get a low-energy dog who would be content enough with minimal exercise throughout winter? (or is that just not realistic?)
* I don't need a guard dog and would prefer a breed that is highly affectionate and loyal and happy to just sit at my feet in the evenings. Bonus points for a breed that is intelligent and easy to train.
I'd really welcome your advice, thoughts, stories, anything you want to share with me that will help me make a better decision for my soon-to-be pup. Thank you very much in advance :)
Katala
PS - I've already looked through the other MetaFilter posts on this topic but none of them are that similar to my situation, thus the new post. I've also researched a lot of dog breeds but at this point it's personal stories and recommendations I need more than anything. Thanks again!!
Hi MeFites :) I am hoping to get a puppy in September, and it's a big decision for me and something I've been waiting to do for a *long* time (had to wait 10 years until we bought a house with a good sized yard) so I would love your help if you have a moment.
I'm very much a pets-for-life person and I want to make sure the type of dog I get will be right for my lifestyle so he or she is as happy and content as possible. To that end...
* I live with my husband in a semi-rural suburb in Tasmania. No kids nor plans for any in the immediate future.
* Our little house has a good-sized fully fenced back yard.
* We already have two cats so an indoors-only dog is not really an option I don't think.
* If possible I'd prefer a medium - large breed
* Apart from in winter I'd be able to walk / play / train with my dog each morning and evening. Winter is a concern for me though as it's freezing and foggy in the mornings, and well and truly dark by the time I get home from work - I'm wondering if I should get a low-energy dog who would be content enough with minimal exercise throughout winter? (or is that just not realistic?)
* I don't need a guard dog and would prefer a breed that is highly affectionate and loyal and happy to just sit at my feet in the evenings. Bonus points for a breed that is intelligent and easy to train.
I'd really welcome your advice, thoughts, stories, anything you want to share with me that will help me make a better decision for my soon-to-be pup. Thank you very much in advance :)
Katala
PS - I've already looked through the other MetaFilter posts on this topic but none of them are that similar to my situation, thus the new post. I've also researched a lot of dog breeds but at this point it's personal stories and recommendations I need more than anything. Thanks again!!
Labrador retriever would seem to fit the bill on most counts. Friendly, smart and with a constant goofy-happy disposition. And they'll chase a tennis ball until the cows come home.
posted by jquinby at 6:26 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by jquinby at 6:26 AM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: We already have two cats so an indoors-only dog is not really an option I don't think
Can you clarify this statement? Do you mean that you have two indoor only cats and you are concerned about the dog being in the house with them?
If that's the case, if the dog is introduced to the cats as a puppy, they will most likely sort everything out amongst themselves and they will be able to live in the same house relatively peacefully.
posted by crankylex at 6:30 AM on July 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
Can you clarify this statement? Do you mean that you have two indoor only cats and you are concerned about the dog being in the house with them?
If that's the case, if the dog is introduced to the cats as a puppy, they will most likely sort everything out amongst themselves and they will be able to live in the same house relatively peacefully.
posted by crankylex at 6:30 AM on July 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
Yeah, it sounds like you fit the profile of the standard family pet setup, so I'd say a lab or a boxer. Our adult boxer can really give it some welly at the park or during play time, but she spends a good 20 hours a day completely sacked out at my feet. They are super smart and have a huge training range. They are very loyal and great family pets.
posted by DarlingBri at 6:36 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by DarlingBri at 6:36 AM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: You have described my golden retriever, Sage. We have a few cats and she loves them, despite the fact they are indifferent to her most of the time. She sleeps by my feet in the evening or laying next to me on the sofa. She is whip smart. Exercising in the winter is more difficult, but a she will fetch a tennis ball or Frisbee until you throw your arm off, so that is what we usually do. No matter how long or bad my day has been, I can't help but smile when Sage meets me at the door with her whole butt wagging and one of her toys in her mouth.
Labs are also fantastic dogs and Brittanie's advice is sound.
posted by Silvertree at 6:37 AM on July 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Labs are also fantastic dogs and Brittanie's advice is sound.
posted by Silvertree at 6:37 AM on July 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Gold retriever. If you are concerned about the shedding, consider a goldendoodle- same disposition as a retriever, but it doesn't shed.
posted by monkeyman82 at 6:50 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by monkeyman82 at 6:50 AM on July 8, 2010
I agree with crankylex about introducing the dog as a puppy to the cats. The cats will establish that they rule the house and the dog will learn to give them the space they demand. The cats may have to slap the puppy around a bit first, but they'll work it out. I've literally seen a big old tuxedo tom speed bag a lab-boxer mix puppy when she wouldn't stop bugging him. The cat was 20+ lbs. The pup was under 10 lbs at the time. After a couple of warnings from the cat, he finally reared up on his back haunches and started punching away. When the pup scrambled backwards, the cat jumped forward without breaking his punches. He had his claws. He didn't use them. It was all soft paw punches. The dog's pride was wounded. Her nose wasn't. However, she learned to leave the cat alone. They lived the rest of their lives together peacefully.
Even my big Bernese Mountain Dog, who didn't meet a cat until he was 2 years old, will back down to the 8 lbs of Evil which lives in our house.
Speaking of Berners and Boxers, I think both would be good options. Boxers are definitely the higher energy option. Some boxers are as energetic as a Border Collie. However, they're a smart, loving and loyal breed. They have a very playful personality.
As for Bernese Mountain Dogs, they're smart, easily trainable and really want to be lap dogs. They'll settle for snuggling up to your feet if you won't let them on the couch. They're loyal and loving to a fault. If they guard your home or your person, that's simply a result of their large size and coloration which people often find intimidating. They're lovers; not fighters. However, if hair's an issue for you, if you don't like high amounts of grooming or vacuuming your house, then stay away from the long hair breeds like Berners and Golden Retrievers.
Finally, be aware that both Berners and Labs have a penchant for eating everything they can. Rocks? Check. Charcoal? Check (my library will never be the same). Dirty laundry? Check. Depending on the dog, you may become very good friends with your vet if you don't dog proof well enough.
I have a male, 8 year old, 135 lb Berner and a female, 12 year old, 50 lb Boxer mix. When they pass, we'll most likely adopt another Berner and/or Boxer.
posted by onhazier at 7:01 AM on July 8, 2010
Even my big Bernese Mountain Dog, who didn't meet a cat until he was 2 years old, will back down to the 8 lbs of Evil which lives in our house.
Speaking of Berners and Boxers, I think both would be good options. Boxers are definitely the higher energy option. Some boxers are as energetic as a Border Collie. However, they're a smart, loving and loyal breed. They have a very playful personality.
As for Bernese Mountain Dogs, they're smart, easily trainable and really want to be lap dogs. They'll settle for snuggling up to your feet if you won't let them on the couch. They're loyal and loving to a fault. If they guard your home or your person, that's simply a result of their large size and coloration which people often find intimidating. They're lovers; not fighters. However, if hair's an issue for you, if you don't like high amounts of grooming or vacuuming your house, then stay away from the long hair breeds like Berners and Golden Retrievers.
Finally, be aware that both Berners and Labs have a penchant for eating everything they can. Rocks? Check. Charcoal? Check (my library will never be the same). Dirty laundry? Check. Depending on the dog, you may become very good friends with your vet if you don't dog proof well enough.
I have a male, 8 year old, 135 lb Berner and a female, 12 year old, 50 lb Boxer mix. When they pass, we'll most likely adopt another Berner and/or Boxer.
posted by onhazier at 7:01 AM on July 8, 2010
Greyhounds are low energy. They don't especially like the cold but you can put a coat on them. Despite their instincts, they can be easily trained not to chase cats. Even retired racing greyhounds can normally live happily with cats.
They're not the brightest, but you can easily train them to fetch a ball. In my expeience they are easy to walk with and fun dogs to have.
They're also good in smallish houses. When they're not out walking they chill out typically curl up.
posted by MuffinMan at 7:07 AM on July 8, 2010
They're not the brightest, but you can easily train them to fetch a ball. In my expeience they are easy to walk with and fun dogs to have.
They're also good in smallish houses. When they're not out walking they chill out typically curl up.
posted by MuffinMan at 7:07 AM on July 8, 2010
* We already have two cats so an indoors-only dog is not really an option I don't think.
Please, please, please don't leave your dog outside for any long period of time. Dogs are pack animals. They want to be with their family. Sure, dogs go out to use the bathroom, but they're back in right after they finish. Leaving a pup outside along for long periods of time can create serious issues, including aggression.
Get a dog you can introduce to your cats or don't get a dog. You would not be a responsible pet owner otherwise. Golden retrievers and Labs sound like a good match for you.
posted by two lights above the sea at 7:16 AM on July 8, 2010 [10 favorites]
Please, please, please don't leave your dog outside for any long period of time. Dogs are pack animals. They want to be with their family. Sure, dogs go out to use the bathroom, but they're back in right after they finish. Leaving a pup outside along for long periods of time can create serious issues, including aggression.
Get a dog you can introduce to your cats or don't get a dog. You would not be a responsible pet owner otherwise. Golden retrievers and Labs sound like a good match for you.
posted by two lights above the sea at 7:16 AM on July 8, 2010 [10 favorites]
Leaving a pup outside alone* for long periods...
posted by two lights above the sea at 7:17 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by two lights above the sea at 7:17 AM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: Whippets and greyhounds are very affectionate and quite cat like in their behaviour which I have come to really like. They have a lot of energy, so walking morning and evening is perfect, but they are also very happy lying around in a sun beam all day too.
People comment that they're very prone to chasing cats but I don't see any problem in introducing them to cats early on - the one in that photo will stand an whine at the chickens, for some reason, but never tries to attack them. Also, we've had many a dog that shared the house with a bunch of cats and never proved to be a problem.
Biggest piece of advice - don't go purebred. Except in a few circumstances, purebred, in my experience, are always stupider than mongrels, and far more prone to long term injury or genetic problems.
posted by opsin at 7:26 AM on July 8, 2010
People comment that they're very prone to chasing cats but I don't see any problem in introducing them to cats early on - the one in that photo will stand an whine at the chickens, for some reason, but never tries to attack them. Also, we've had many a dog that shared the house with a bunch of cats and never proved to be a problem.
Biggest piece of advice - don't go purebred. Except in a few circumstances, purebred, in my experience, are always stupider than mongrels, and far more prone to long term injury or genetic problems.
posted by opsin at 7:26 AM on July 8, 2010
What kind of dog would you recommend for my lifestyle?
A rescued dog is the only correct answer to these questions, IMO. Find a local rescue group that has some knowledge of the temperaments of the pups in their care, and ask them this question.
Please don't buy a puppy from a pet store or backyard breeder, or worse.
posted by SuperSquirrel at 7:43 AM on July 8, 2010 [4 favorites]
A rescued dog is the only correct answer to these questions, IMO. Find a local rescue group that has some knowledge of the temperaments of the pups in their care, and ask them this question.
Please don't buy a puppy from a pet store or backyard breeder, or worse.
posted by SuperSquirrel at 7:43 AM on July 8, 2010 [4 favorites]
Our pitbull is perfectly happy to lie on the couch with her head in your lap all day, but has plenty of energy when you want to run around. I was leery about getting a pit at first, but she's a super friendly, affectionate dog.
posted by electroboy at 7:57 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by electroboy at 7:57 AM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: I agree that you have described a Golden Retriever, the problem is that Goldens aren't really dogs of course, they're Goldens. Labs are dogs that come very close to being like Golden.
And my Goldens and cats never had any problems sharing a house, the pups always gave the cats lots of room. Sharing a yard or garden was different, but the cats knew all the escape routes
posted by Some1 at 8:08 AM on July 8, 2010
And my Goldens and cats never had any problems sharing a house, the pups always gave the cats lots of room. Sharing a yard or garden was different, but the cats knew all the escape routes
posted by Some1 at 8:08 AM on July 8, 2010
Some day, when I have enough money and enough space to have a dog, I will (probably) get a Bullmastiff. I want a large dog, but I'm a pretty low-energy person. From everything I've read (again, I don't have a dog, so you should take advice from dog-havers before me), Bullmastiffs are loyal, gentle, and low-key. I would definitely look into the breed.
On the other hand, my parents have what is probably a Pitbull/Lab mix (my brother rescued her as a puppy from the side of the road) who was just thrust upon them when my brother almost got kicked out of his apartment for having a pet. Since my parents aren't home much during the day, she's left to sit around, so she's kind of learned to be a low energy dog. But when you take her outside someplace and let her off the leash, man she goes nuts. She clearly has a great time when she's able to let loose, but she seems perfectly happy just following everyone around the house as well. So every dog is different.
Congrats on graduating to dogdom. I'm so jealous!
posted by phunniemee at 8:26 AM on July 8, 2010
On the other hand, my parents have what is probably a Pitbull/Lab mix (my brother rescued her as a puppy from the side of the road) who was just thrust upon them when my brother almost got kicked out of his apartment for having a pet. Since my parents aren't home much during the day, she's left to sit around, so she's kind of learned to be a low energy dog. But when you take her outside someplace and let her off the leash, man she goes nuts. She clearly has a great time when she's able to let loose, but she seems perfectly happy just following everyone around the house as well. So every dog is different.
Congrats on graduating to dogdom. I'm so jealous!
posted by phunniemee at 8:26 AM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: If you have a treadmill you can easily exercise your dog on that in the Winter. It's kind of weird at first, but I've seen a lot of dogs get a real kick out of it.
I totally agree with everyone who says that if you introduce the puppy to your cats that they'll quickly let him know that he must treat them with respect. Most of the time there ends up being polite ignoring, but I've seen some cats 'mother' the puppy or just become good friends and cuddle partners.
I'm with the people who recommend a Labrador or a Golden. Those breeds are just the epitome of a loving dog. They are quite smart, and their eagerness to please makes them very easy to train. If you really don't want to spend a lot of time grooming, then you should go for the short haired Lab over the long haired Golden. Every Lab or Golden I've ever met has been both happy to lay at your feet for hours and eager to play at the drop of a hat. If you can get a Lab mix puppy at your local shelter that might just be perfect for you.
I think you should go to one of those sites listed above that match you with a few different breeds, then come back here and let us know what you were given. Then we can give you our opinion on those dogs.
posted by TooFewShoes at 8:28 AM on July 8, 2010
I totally agree with everyone who says that if you introduce the puppy to your cats that they'll quickly let him know that he must treat them with respect. Most of the time there ends up being polite ignoring, but I've seen some cats 'mother' the puppy or just become good friends and cuddle partners.
I'm with the people who recommend a Labrador or a Golden. Those breeds are just the epitome of a loving dog. They are quite smart, and their eagerness to please makes them very easy to train. If you really don't want to spend a lot of time grooming, then you should go for the short haired Lab over the long haired Golden. Every Lab or Golden I've ever met has been both happy to lay at your feet for hours and eager to play at the drop of a hat. If you can get a Lab mix puppy at your local shelter that might just be perfect for you.
I think you should go to one of those sites listed above that match you with a few different breeds, then come back here and let us know what you were given. Then we can give you our opinion on those dogs.
posted by TooFewShoes at 8:28 AM on July 8, 2010
Please please please go and get a rescue dog. With a little patience you should be able to get a Lab or Golden mix at the shelter.
We have a golden/yellow lab mix and two cats, they interact just fine. My mother's chocolate labs love our cats.
posted by ish__ at 8:57 AM on July 8, 2010
We have a golden/yellow lab mix and two cats, they interact just fine. My mother's chocolate labs love our cats.
posted by ish__ at 8:57 AM on July 8, 2010
asking this question here will get you a lot of different answers.
posted by majortom1981 at 9:21 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by majortom1981 at 9:21 AM on July 8, 2010
my labs are awesome awesome awesome. however, they are real terrors when they are puppies, so definitely research this stage well and prepare yourself for some serious chewing
posted by lakersfan1222 at 9:27 AM on July 8, 2010
posted by lakersfan1222 at 9:27 AM on July 8, 2010
Please, please, please don't leave your dog outside for any long period of time. Dogs are pack animals. They want to be with their family. Sure, dogs go out to use the bathroom, but they're back in right after they finish. Leaving a pup outside along for long periods of time can create serious issues, including aggression.
Get a dog you can introduce to your cats or don't get a dog. You would not be a responsible pet owner otherwise.
Please listen to this advice. You can definitely find a dog that is good with your cats. A rescue dog would be a great idea since the rescue should be able to tell you about the dog's temperament and whether or not it's good with cats.
posted by thejanna at 10:55 AM on July 8, 2010
Get a dog you can introduce to your cats or don't get a dog. You would not be a responsible pet owner otherwise.
Please listen to this advice. You can definitely find a dog that is good with your cats. A rescue dog would be a great idea since the rescue should be able to tell you about the dog's temperament and whether or not it's good with cats.
posted by thejanna at 10:55 AM on July 8, 2010
I emphatically agree with two lights above the sea and other posters here! Dogs are not solitary animals; almost all dogs want to be with the family, and suffer greatly if they are separated and left alone. Dogs have been specifically bred over thousands of years to work and live with people, and separating them from the rest of the "pack" is torture to them. Don't do it!
Our beautiful, wonderful dog was given up by her adoptive family (after the ones who abandoned her when she became not-a-puppy) when they put her all alone outside in a fenced yard with their chickens. On the sixth or seventh day, isolated and alone, she killed a bunch of chickens.
Duh.
She is the perfect dog: she doesn't bark, she doesn't chew on furniture or anything else, she doesn't cause problems with visitors, she isn't demanding, she doesn't steal food, she doesn't poop or pee inside, she doesn't push her limits or act aggressively, or even chase cats or birds. She's super smart with a great, quirky personality, calm, responsive, elegant, confident, and 100% a part of the family. We feel like we won the Great Doggy Lotto with her and couldn't be luckier.
But if she were left on her own, she would become an aggressive, neurotic, obsessive, miserable, tortured animal. She has to be with her pack (us) to be happy. Not every dog is exactly the same, but almost most will need to mostly be with you, their family, instead of sitting in the yard by themselves. Dogs are very different than cats in their social requirements, so be sure you are ready for that!
posted by taz at 11:28 AM on July 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Our beautiful, wonderful dog was given up by her adoptive family (after the ones who abandoned her when she became not-a-puppy) when they put her all alone outside in a fenced yard with their chickens. On the sixth or seventh day, isolated and alone, she killed a bunch of chickens.
Duh.
She is the perfect dog: she doesn't bark, she doesn't chew on furniture or anything else, she doesn't cause problems with visitors, she isn't demanding, she doesn't steal food, she doesn't poop or pee inside, she doesn't push her limits or act aggressively, or even chase cats or birds. She's super smart with a great, quirky personality, calm, responsive, elegant, confident, and 100% a part of the family. We feel like we won the Great Doggy Lotto with her and couldn't be luckier.
But if she were left on her own, she would become an aggressive, neurotic, obsessive, miserable, tortured animal. She has to be with her pack (us) to be happy. Not every dog is exactly the same, but almost most will need to mostly be with you, their family, instead of sitting in the yard by themselves. Dogs are very different than cats in their social requirements, so be sure you are ready for that!
posted by taz at 11:28 AM on July 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Please don't imprison your dog outside. That's not fair to the dog. You can definitely find a dog you can trust full-time around your cats.
My (now ex-) wife and I had 3 dogs, and they had a pretty high degree of cat acceptance. None came to as as puppies. Seamus, a pitbull/Rottweiler mix was absolutely indifferent to them. Kate, a pitbull we found the day we moved into our house had a tendency to chase until she and the cats got used to each other. Sheba was a dog that belonged to a neighbor - they had a cat, so she was cat-neutral as well. She was supposedly also a rottweiler/pitbull mix, but didn't look like it at all.
All this to say that it depends on the breed and the dog. And how the cats respond to a dog as well.
My recommendation would be the two breeds I'm most fond of, naturally - pitbull or rottweiler - they like to run and play, but they gladly spend hours on the couch/bed. Both unfairly maligned (in the US, at least), but very affectionate and loyal. A rottweiler will likely have guard-dog tendencies. Never hostile in my experience, but definitely let you know when something was up outside.
I also vote for rescuing a dog, and also not excluding older dogs from your search. A good rescue group can provide lots of guidance and will know and test the temperament of all their dogs.
posted by O9scar at 11:31 AM on July 8, 2010
My (now ex-) wife and I had 3 dogs, and they had a pretty high degree of cat acceptance. None came to as as puppies. Seamus, a pitbull/Rottweiler mix was absolutely indifferent to them. Kate, a pitbull we found the day we moved into our house had a tendency to chase until she and the cats got used to each other. Sheba was a dog that belonged to a neighbor - they had a cat, so she was cat-neutral as well. She was supposedly also a rottweiler/pitbull mix, but didn't look like it at all.
All this to say that it depends on the breed and the dog. And how the cats respond to a dog as well.
My recommendation would be the two breeds I'm most fond of, naturally - pitbull or rottweiler - they like to run and play, but they gladly spend hours on the couch/bed. Both unfairly maligned (in the US, at least), but very affectionate and loyal. A rottweiler will likely have guard-dog tendencies. Never hostile in my experience, but definitely let you know when something was up outside.
I also vote for rescuing a dog, and also not excluding older dogs from your search. A good rescue group can provide lots of guidance and will know and test the temperament of all their dogs.
posted by O9scar at 11:31 AM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: I agree with O9scar -- think about getting an older dog, not a puppy. An older dog will be lower energy and will likely already be housetrained and possibly know some other things. My rottweiler mix was 4 when we got her 2 years ago, and she's the perfect dog. We have a similar setup to you.
By the way, living in the Boston, MA area, it's cold and dark outside when we walk the dog in the winter. We do it anyway. You get used to it. As long as you have the right gear, it's not a big deal. We only forgo the daily walks when it's at or below 0 F outside. She loves the snow and cold, and as long as we dress appropriately for it, it's not that bad. It's actually kind of nice to get outside every day, even for just 20 minutes.
posted by acridrabbit at 5:11 PM on July 8, 2010
By the way, living in the Boston, MA area, it's cold and dark outside when we walk the dog in the winter. We do it anyway. You get used to it. As long as you have the right gear, it's not a big deal. We only forgo the daily walks when it's at or below 0 F outside. She loves the snow and cold, and as long as we dress appropriately for it, it's not that bad. It's actually kind of nice to get outside every day, even for just 20 minutes.
posted by acridrabbit at 5:11 PM on July 8, 2010
Best answer: We have a Kelpie Lab cross and he is just the Best. Dog. Ever. I really wanted a Kelpie but, living in the inner Melbourne suburbs as we do, was concerned about their insane energy levels. Ludo looks like he is 100% kelpie but is about 2/3 the size, though I have seen mixes with more Lab attributes. He can run all day long but in winter, we generally play a lot of indoor games with him that keep him mentally stimulated rather than taking him for walks. Or take him swimming at the local park which he LOVES and totally exhausts him in about fifteen minutes.
posted by Wantok at 7:03 PM on July 8, 2010
posted by Wantok at 7:03 PM on July 8, 2010
A kelpie or a cattle dog - blue or red heeler - would be ideal. They do need lots of exercise, but tossing a ball around the yard (and bouncing it against the fence, so they have to jump to get it) should be enough if you can dedicate an hour or so to it each day (and Wantok is right about the swimming - tires em right out but you need to be careful of the projectile diarrhea if they overdo it). If it's loyalty you're after, a heeler can't be beaten - and they're smart. God I miss my red (found dumped in a paddock about 6 months old, lived to 17, and the smartest, most loyal dog ever).
posted by goo at 9:58 AM on July 9, 2010
posted by goo at 9:58 AM on July 9, 2010
Best answer: Thank you all for taking the time to help me out :)
Some things I should clarify that I guess were not too clear in my original post (sorry) and some followup questions for those who have time to answer...
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On dog in yard
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I would love to have a dog in the house all the time, but my husband has bad allergies and asthma and worries it would make them worse. With regular grooming and haircuts though to reduce shedding would that still be a problem?
I totally agree that dogs are pack animals and don't like to be left alone and it can lead to all sorts of behavioral problems. If I can't have him (or her) inside during the day, and can't take him to work, what is the next best option? Intense exercise in the morning so he sleeps for most of the day? Or should I be getting two dogs so they can keep each other company in the yard, i.e their own little pack?
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On shelter dogs
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I would love to get a shelter dog but I think it would probably have to be a puppy because I've read most dog's behavioral problems can be averted if you socialise them properly before they are 13 years old? I would never ever ever buy a dog (or any animal) from a pet store.
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Exercising in winter
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Love the idea of a treadmill TooFewShoes :) Do you run on the treadmill yourself with the dog behind you, or do you put the dog on the treadmill with his lead attached to the emergency stop and let him run by himself?
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Breeds
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I had a Golden as a kid and loved him, and the Goldendoodles look very cute. Are they really just like Golden's but with less shedding or are their personalities somewhat different too?
I just did a few tests and the commonly recommended breeds for me seem to be:
- Mixed breed dog (mutt) with a curly or wiry coat
- Border terrier
- Anatolian Shepherd Dog
- Any poodle type of dog (Labradoodle, Goldendoodle etc)
Does anyone have any recommendations for these particular breeds?
Thanks again
Katala
posted by katala at 11:21 PM on July 9, 2010
Some things I should clarify that I guess were not too clear in my original post (sorry) and some followup questions for those who have time to answer...
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On dog in yard
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I would love to have a dog in the house all the time, but my husband has bad allergies and asthma and worries it would make them worse. With regular grooming and haircuts though to reduce shedding would that still be a problem?
I totally agree that dogs are pack animals and don't like to be left alone and it can lead to all sorts of behavioral problems. If I can't have him (or her) inside during the day, and can't take him to work, what is the next best option? Intense exercise in the morning so he sleeps for most of the day? Or should I be getting two dogs so they can keep each other company in the yard, i.e their own little pack?
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On shelter dogs
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I would love to get a shelter dog but I think it would probably have to be a puppy because I've read most dog's behavioral problems can be averted if you socialise them properly before they are 13 years old? I would never ever ever buy a dog (or any animal) from a pet store.
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Exercising in winter
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Love the idea of a treadmill TooFewShoes :) Do you run on the treadmill yourself with the dog behind you, or do you put the dog on the treadmill with his lead attached to the emergency stop and let him run by himself?
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Breeds
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I had a Golden as a kid and loved him, and the Goldendoodles look very cute. Are they really just like Golden's but with less shedding or are their personalities somewhat different too?
I just did a few tests and the commonly recommended breeds for me seem to be:
- Mixed breed dog (mutt) with a curly or wiry coat
- Border terrier
- Anatolian Shepherd Dog
- Any poodle type of dog (Labradoodle, Goldendoodle etc)
Does anyone have any recommendations for these particular breeds?
Thanks again
Katala
posted by katala at 11:21 PM on July 9, 2010
Best answer: I don't have any first hand experience, but I've heard that terriers don't do very well with cats. I was told it was something about that kind of dog being bred to chase small furry animals. They just can't help it. Retrievers are bred to retrieve (usually birds) and have a soft mouth so as not to damage the flesh of the bird.
The Labradoodles (lots) and Goldendoodles(only two) that I've met were just like their full blood cousins. Still sweet and still smart. You have to be really, really careful where you get one of these 'designer dogs' though, so many are bred out of Puppy Mills. I've always gotten my dog from the Humane Society or the local Animal Shelter, so I don't know how to truly spot a Puppy Mill but I'll bet you can find some info online.
Is your husband specifically allergic to dogs? If he is then you may just be better off staying a dog free house. Dog fur and dander have a real way of migrating.
If your husband has generalized allergies and you think the dog might aggravate them there are lots of things you can do to minimize the harm: Keep the dog out of the bedroom and off the furniture. Crate train him so that while you're gone you know he's not camping out on the couch. Brush him outside before you come in from a walk. Doing this will get rid of most of the pollen that may attach itself to his coat while you're out. It'll also get rid of loose fur/hair and dander. Don't wash the dog more than once a month. Washing too often can cause dry skin and that can aggravate allergies. Get a good vacuum and use it daily, especially in places where the dog likes to nap and inside his crate. If your hubby doesn't have a problem with the cats the dog shouldn't be that big of a difference. I have a German Shedder Dog and when I brush her every day I don't even notice that much shedding. (The Spring and Fall blow outs are a different story!)
No, I don't go on the treadmill with my dog. There's no way I could keep up! Even if I could, my dog is huge and there just wouldn't be room for both of us. The Dog Whisperer can show you how it's done. I think you can find the video online.
As for your hesitancy to get a shelter dog, I really think you should give it some more thought. Just go down and look. There may be a dog that fits your criteria. Our dog was given up by her family when they lost their house because of the economy. She was a year old and we've never had any problems with her. Some shelters will let you leave your contact information and let you know when they get a puppy or young dog that they think fits your needs. If you aren't in a big hurry, you can go around to the different shelters in your area. The dogs change all the time, if you go back every weekend you'll see a new array of dogs.
posted by TooFewShoes at 8:56 AM on July 10, 2010 [1 favorite]
The Labradoodles (lots) and Goldendoodles(only two) that I've met were just like their full blood cousins. Still sweet and still smart. You have to be really, really careful where you get one of these 'designer dogs' though, so many are bred out of Puppy Mills. I've always gotten my dog from the Humane Society or the local Animal Shelter, so I don't know how to truly spot a Puppy Mill but I'll bet you can find some info online.
Is your husband specifically allergic to dogs? If he is then you may just be better off staying a dog free house. Dog fur and dander have a real way of migrating.
If your husband has generalized allergies and you think the dog might aggravate them there are lots of things you can do to minimize the harm: Keep the dog out of the bedroom and off the furniture. Crate train him so that while you're gone you know he's not camping out on the couch. Brush him outside before you come in from a walk. Doing this will get rid of most of the pollen that may attach itself to his coat while you're out. It'll also get rid of loose fur/hair and dander. Don't wash the dog more than once a month. Washing too often can cause dry skin and that can aggravate allergies. Get a good vacuum and use it daily, especially in places where the dog likes to nap and inside his crate. If your hubby doesn't have a problem with the cats the dog shouldn't be that big of a difference. I have a German Shedder Dog and when I brush her every day I don't even notice that much shedding. (The Spring and Fall blow outs are a different story!)
No, I don't go on the treadmill with my dog. There's no way I could keep up! Even if I could, my dog is huge and there just wouldn't be room for both of us. The Dog Whisperer can show you how it's done. I think you can find the video online.
As for your hesitancy to get a shelter dog, I really think you should give it some more thought. Just go down and look. There may be a dog that fits your criteria. Our dog was given up by her family when they lost their house because of the economy. She was a year old and we've never had any problems with her. Some shelters will let you leave your contact information and let you know when they get a puppy or young dog that they think fits your needs. If you aren't in a big hurry, you can go around to the different shelters in your area. The dogs change all the time, if you go back every weekend you'll see a new array of dogs.
posted by TooFewShoes at 8:56 AM on July 10, 2010 [1 favorite]
Best answer: I would love to get a shelter dog but I think it would probably have to be a puppy because I've read most dog's behavioral problems can be averted if you socialise them properly before they are 13 years old?
OK, so you want a puppy so you can socialize it properly. But then you're considering leaving it out in the yard, without any people around with which it can socialize? Your logic is a bit off here.
If you go through a reputable rescue group, most of the time they will be able to tell you something about the dog's background, personality, temperament, and suitability for various types of lifestyles. It is a complete fallacy that rescue dogs are, by definition, poorly-socialized. Yes, some are, this is true. But the majority of dogs in a rescue situation are owner-surrenders because the owners can't afford them, or are moving, or just had a change in life circumstances (birth, death, job loss). I just transported the sweetest young Labs the other day, who would make perfect pets for a family with a nice yard, because their owner lost his job and couldn't afford to care for them anymore.
When puppy mill dogs come through my rescue group, it's noted in their records, and first preference for their adoption is given to people who are comfortable with that background, and are willing to spend lots of time socializing them. This is hard work, and no reputable rescue group is going to dump a poorly-socialized dog (from a puppy mill, or a chronic tie-out situation) on an adopter who is not equipped, prepared, or interested in that kind of commitment.
Please find a good rescue group in your area, and ask them these questions! They will be more than glad to work with you to find the perfect dog for your family. It's in their best interests to find a good match too - they don't want the dogs to come back to them!
posted by SuperSquirrel at 10:07 AM on July 10, 2010
OK, so you want a puppy so you can socialize it properly. But then you're considering leaving it out in the yard, without any people around with which it can socialize? Your logic is a bit off here.
If you go through a reputable rescue group, most of the time they will be able to tell you something about the dog's background, personality, temperament, and suitability for various types of lifestyles. It is a complete fallacy that rescue dogs are, by definition, poorly-socialized. Yes, some are, this is true. But the majority of dogs in a rescue situation are owner-surrenders because the owners can't afford them, or are moving, or just had a change in life circumstances (birth, death, job loss). I just transported the sweetest young Labs the other day, who would make perfect pets for a family with a nice yard, because their owner lost his job and couldn't afford to care for them anymore.
When puppy mill dogs come through my rescue group, it's noted in their records, and first preference for their adoption is given to people who are comfortable with that background, and are willing to spend lots of time socializing them. This is hard work, and no reputable rescue group is going to dump a poorly-socialized dog (from a puppy mill, or a chronic tie-out situation) on an adopter who is not equipped, prepared, or interested in that kind of commitment.
Please find a good rescue group in your area, and ask them these questions! They will be more than glad to work with you to find the perfect dog for your family. It's in their best interests to find a good match too - they don't want the dogs to come back to them!
posted by SuperSquirrel at 10:07 AM on July 10, 2010
Best answer: Thanks for the followup comments.
I agree Terriers must sadly be out due to their herding instincts.
I've done some further research on poodle-cross designer dogs and found it can be impossible to predict what type of coat you'll get - not ruling that option out yet but I'm now considering just getting a purebred standard poodle because of all the low-allergy benefits plus they are intelligent and companionable and would enjoy training.
Anyone own a Standard Poodle and have any stories (good or bad) to share?
I do understand people's concerns about leaving a dog outdoors while I'm at work but I still don't understand that - wouldn't it be better for a dog to have a nice big yard to run around and play in during the day / dirt to dig in / outdoor toys to play with, rather than being cooped up inside busting for a loo break? Forgive my ignorance here - maybe it's an Australian thing but most people here have their dogs outdoors during the day and they seem fine? I'd love some additional thoughts on this issue...
SuperSquirrel - Socialising would take place with me, visiting new people and places etc. If the dog were indoors during the day he would be alone anyway as my husband and I both work (although I am home on Wednesdays and weekends) so indoors or outdoors he's not going to get any socialization training during those times. I'd love to be able to take him to work with me but I doubt very much that will be allowed (although I will ask!). Thanks for your suggestion about contacting shelters with my requirements, I'll definitely do that.
posted by katala at 5:23 PM on July 10, 2010
I agree Terriers must sadly be out due to their herding instincts.
I've done some further research on poodle-cross designer dogs and found it can be impossible to predict what type of coat you'll get - not ruling that option out yet but I'm now considering just getting a purebred standard poodle because of all the low-allergy benefits plus they are intelligent and companionable and would enjoy training.
Anyone own a Standard Poodle and have any stories (good or bad) to share?
I do understand people's concerns about leaving a dog outdoors while I'm at work but I still don't understand that - wouldn't it be better for a dog to have a nice big yard to run around and play in during the day / dirt to dig in / outdoor toys to play with, rather than being cooped up inside busting for a loo break? Forgive my ignorance here - maybe it's an Australian thing but most people here have their dogs outdoors during the day and they seem fine? I'd love some additional thoughts on this issue...
SuperSquirrel - Socialising would take place with me, visiting new people and places etc. If the dog were indoors during the day he would be alone anyway as my husband and I both work (although I am home on Wednesdays and weekends) so indoors or outdoors he's not going to get any socialization training during those times. I'd love to be able to take him to work with me but I doubt very much that will be allowed (although I will ask!). Thanks for your suggestion about contacting shelters with my requirements, I'll definitely do that.
posted by katala at 5:23 PM on July 10, 2010
A bit late to the party here, but...
I just adopted a dog two months ago, and my boyfriend has, in the past, been horribly allergic to dogs. What worked for us was bringing him along to meet any dogs we were interested in, and making sure that we spent some time with the dog in a closed off room to see how his allergies reacted. This wasn't perfect, of course, because the room we were in had a lot of dog fur and dander around, but we were pretty sure when we spent some time with the beagle/shar pei mix that we ended up adopting that she wasn't causing any big problems for his allergies.
It seems to help, too, that I groom her at least once a week with a furminator to reduce shedding, then rub her down with a dander-reducing liquid called Allerpet-D. I have absolutely no idea if the Allerpet-D actually does anything or not, but so far my boyfriend has had hardly any increase in allergies aside from occasionally itchy eyes. We think we may just have gotten lucky, as beagles are supposed to shed a lot and I've seen shar pei's mentioned several times as dogs that are usually particularly bad for allergy sufferers.
As another plug for shelter dogs, our shelter dog was a stray picked up off the street with no known history, is estimated to be about 3 1/2 years old, and we have had zero behavior problems.
My advice as someone who just went through adopting a dog is just to go to the shelter and see what dogs are there, and find one that fits your family. I went in wanting a greyhound, and while Moxie is about as far from a greyhound as you can get, I can't tell you how much I love having her around!
Good luck!
posted by rosethorn at 11:51 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I just adopted a dog two months ago, and my boyfriend has, in the past, been horribly allergic to dogs. What worked for us was bringing him along to meet any dogs we were interested in, and making sure that we spent some time with the dog in a closed off room to see how his allergies reacted. This wasn't perfect, of course, because the room we were in had a lot of dog fur and dander around, but we were pretty sure when we spent some time with the beagle/shar pei mix that we ended up adopting that she wasn't causing any big problems for his allergies.
It seems to help, too, that I groom her at least once a week with a furminator to reduce shedding, then rub her down with a dander-reducing liquid called Allerpet-D. I have absolutely no idea if the Allerpet-D actually does anything or not, but so far my boyfriend has had hardly any increase in allergies aside from occasionally itchy eyes. We think we may just have gotten lucky, as beagles are supposed to shed a lot and I've seen shar pei's mentioned several times as dogs that are usually particularly bad for allergy sufferers.
As another plug for shelter dogs, our shelter dog was a stray picked up off the street with no known history, is estimated to be about 3 1/2 years old, and we have had zero behavior problems.
My advice as someone who just went through adopting a dog is just to go to the shelter and see what dogs are there, and find one that fits your family. I went in wanting a greyhound, and while Moxie is about as far from a greyhound as you can get, I can't tell you how much I love having her around!
Good luck!
posted by rosethorn at 11:51 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Anyone own a Standard Poodle and have any stories (good or bad) to share?
Yes! I was actually going to say "Standard Poodle" earlier but they tend not to be the most popular dogs anymore since their defining characteristic is Stupid Looking so I didn't.
I grew up with a Standard Poodle. People forget they are a working breed because they are so well known for showing. They are wonderful family dogs - bright, energetic, and increadibly smart. Ours could open doors and kept track of all the kids in the house. Standards are not yappy like their smaller cousins, although they'll let you know when the door goes.
To avoid issues of grooming and the maintenance of the show clip, you just shave them, like little lambs. They're actually very nice looking animals with good grooming, and you can clip them yourself.
Having said that, I would still go to your local shelter. I have owned pure-bred pedigree show line dogs from reputable breeders my whole life, often owning dogs purchased for hrrifying amounts of money. Some were great; one was so dumb he'd get stuck on top of the kitchen table. When we moved to Ireland, I did not want to support the horrendous breeding industry here, and went to the pound.
I was able to meet a wide range of dogs and pick one who met our family needs perfectly. As it happens, she is a full-bred boxer with gorgeous lines. She's a wonderful match for us and an utter joy to own. I have no regrets at all, and we will always have shelter or breed-specific rescue dogs from here on out. I have been utterly converted.
I also like this idea for you because I have to say, if you've never owned a dog before you are probably not prepared for the training a puppy requires. The broken sleep (up ever three hours), the chewing, the training - it's a lot to take on.
As to indoors/outdoors, it's fine for the dog to be outdoors during the day as long as it has adequate food, shelter and shade. I have usually had dog doors so that a well-trained, reliable dog can suit itself, indoors or out. I assume that when you return home, the dog will immediately come indoors and will sleep indoors, and this will not be an outdoor-dwelling animal.
posted by DarlingBri at 8:09 PM on July 16, 2010
Yes! I was actually going to say "Standard Poodle" earlier but they tend not to be the most popular dogs anymore since their defining characteristic is Stupid Looking so I didn't.
I grew up with a Standard Poodle. People forget they are a working breed because they are so well known for showing. They are wonderful family dogs - bright, energetic, and increadibly smart. Ours could open doors and kept track of all the kids in the house. Standards are not yappy like their smaller cousins, although they'll let you know when the door goes.
To avoid issues of grooming and the maintenance of the show clip, you just shave them, like little lambs. They're actually very nice looking animals with good grooming, and you can clip them yourself.
Having said that, I would still go to your local shelter. I have owned pure-bred pedigree show line dogs from reputable breeders my whole life, often owning dogs purchased for hrrifying amounts of money. Some were great; one was so dumb he'd get stuck on top of the kitchen table. When we moved to Ireland, I did not want to support the horrendous breeding industry here, and went to the pound.
I was able to meet a wide range of dogs and pick one who met our family needs perfectly. As it happens, she is a full-bred boxer with gorgeous lines. She's a wonderful match for us and an utter joy to own. I have no regrets at all, and we will always have shelter or breed-specific rescue dogs from here on out. I have been utterly converted.
I also like this idea for you because I have to say, if you've never owned a dog before you are probably not prepared for the training a puppy requires. The broken sleep (up ever three hours), the chewing, the training - it's a lot to take on.
As to indoors/outdoors, it's fine for the dog to be outdoors during the day as long as it has adequate food, shelter and shade. I have usually had dog doors so that a well-trained, reliable dog can suit itself, indoors or out. I assume that when you return home, the dog will immediately come indoors and will sleep indoors, and this will not be an outdoor-dwelling animal.
posted by DarlingBri at 8:09 PM on July 16, 2010
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So, try one of those quizzes.
posted by Brittanie at 6:24 AM on July 8, 2010 [2 favorites]