What books best describe/approximate what it was like to be in New York City during the 1970s/80s?
June 30, 2010 7:13 AM
What books best describe/approximate what it was like to be in New York City during the 1970s/80s?
I'm looking for books - both fiction and non-fiction - that give a good idea of what it was like to be in New York City during the 1970s and 80s, the time long-term New Yorkers seem to refer to as the "real" New York. Clearly, I wasn't there, but am fascinated, and so this reading is for my own enjoyment rather than any sort of professional/academic interest.
I've read some of the more obvious choices - fiction like Bright Lights, Big City and The Bonfire of the Vanities - and I like movies like Taxi Driver. I've also searched on some library databases, but have found surprisingly little. I'm mainly just interested in books that show, through fiction or historical accounts, how seamy and interesting the place really was before my tenure here.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - thanks, in advance!
I'm looking for books - both fiction and non-fiction - that give a good idea of what it was like to be in New York City during the 1970s and 80s, the time long-term New Yorkers seem to refer to as the "real" New York. Clearly, I wasn't there, but am fascinated, and so this reading is for my own enjoyment rather than any sort of professional/academic interest.
I've read some of the more obvious choices - fiction like Bright Lights, Big City and The Bonfire of the Vanities - and I like movies like Taxi Driver. I've also searched on some library databases, but have found surprisingly little. I'm mainly just interested in books that show, through fiction or historical accounts, how seamy and interesting the place really was before my tenure here.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - thanks, in advance!
I just read Let The Great World Spin last month and it was described to me as "the story of life in the gritty realness of NY city as seen through the eyes of..."
And it was well written. Enjoy.
posted by FlamingBore at 7:20 AM on June 30, 2010
And it was well written. Enjoy.
posted by FlamingBore at 7:20 AM on June 30, 2010
I was a kid during that time, but Laurie Colwin's novels definitely ring true to me.
posted by chesty_a_arthur at 7:22 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by chesty_a_arthur at 7:22 AM on June 30, 2010
Certain parts of American Psycho are accurate--the brands, clubs, and music.
There are lots of movies that fit this bill: Mean Streets, Manhattan, Annie Hall, Wall St, Working Girl, etc.
Books: Motherless Brooklyn, maybe?
posted by dfriedman at 7:24 AM on June 30, 2010
There are lots of movies that fit this bill: Mean Streets, Manhattan, Annie Hall, Wall St, Working Girl, etc.
Books: Motherless Brooklyn, maybe?
posted by dfriedman at 7:24 AM on June 30, 2010
Oh! Hubert Selby Jr.'s Requiem for a Dream is also a great portrayal of southern Brooklyn in the late 70s.
This question may help you as well.
posted by griphus at 7:24 AM on June 30, 2010
This question may help you as well.
posted by griphus at 7:24 AM on June 30, 2010
Oh, and there's a Jim Jarmusch movie set on the Lower East Side in the early 1980s, whose name I forget.
posted by dfriedman at 7:25 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by dfriedman at 7:25 AM on June 30, 2010
Check out Richard Price's work. He's the man. I'd recommend starting with "Blood Brothers." It's about coming of age in Co-Op City and it broke my heart when I first read it.
posted by johnnybeggs at 7:27 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by johnnybeggs at 7:27 AM on June 30, 2010
Sarah Schulman's People in Trouble is a good fictitious account of the early days of the AIDS crisis in NYC
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:27 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:27 AM on June 30, 2010
I just finished Random Family: Love, Drugs, Trouble, and Coming of Age in the Bronx", which was excellent and engaging and gives you a very clear picture of life in the Bronx in the 80s and through the 90s.
posted by millipede at 7:33 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by millipede at 7:33 AM on June 30, 2010
I know you said books, but check out Do the Right Thing and Summer of Sam by Spike Lee.
posted by lukemeister at 7:44 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by lukemeister at 7:44 AM on June 30, 2010
The YA novel The Two Worlds of Jill has some good descriptions of the city, such as Soho. Also, Judy Blume's "Fudge" series has a lot of good tidbits. For example, in the first book "Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing" he describes the elevator man in his apartment building; then in a later book he talks about how they just got a new automatic elevator.
posted by Melismata at 7:49 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by Melismata at 7:49 AM on June 30, 2010
FYI, Sarah Schulman's People in Trouble is long rumored, and very likely, the partial original source material for RENT.
posted by FlamingBore at 7:53 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by FlamingBore at 7:53 AM on June 30, 2010
"The Bronx is Burning: 1977, Baseball, Politics, and the Battle for the Soul of a City" by Jonathan Mahler - Blackout, Son of Sam, Yankees. I don't usually enjoy non-fiction but this was very engaging.
posted by Wylie Kyoto at 8:10 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by Wylie Kyoto at 8:10 AM on June 30, 2010
As a teenager in NYC in the 80s, I must say thatFortress of Solitude, by Jonathan Lethem (who also wrote Motherless Brooklyn) is an accurate a portrayal of NYC as I remember it. It's also a great book.
posted by swngnmonk at 8:38 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by swngnmonk at 8:38 AM on June 30, 2010
While growing up, there was only one 'real' New York for me and that was the New York I knew from the TV-series Kojak. When I went to NYC in the early eighties for the 1st time, I wasn't disappointed. Years later I found the bizarro travel guide New York unexpurgated by Petronius. The ultimate guide for the sick and the depraved. Where to get your best porn, where to pick up single ladies, where to meet naked males, where to score you Mary Jane: it's all there. Written in the sixties, but it still describes the Kojak New York I learned to love. I still read it once in a while and it is still the most amazing description of New York I ever read. Easy to get on Ebay for a few bucks.
posted by ouke at 8:42 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by ouke at 8:42 AM on June 30, 2010
Came to say Fortress of Solitude as well. Not always a fan of the semi-magic-realism, nostalgia novels by hip bklyn writers, but this one is a good one.
posted by Lutoslawski at 10:24 AM on June 30, 2010
posted by Lutoslawski at 10:24 AM on June 30, 2010
Story of My Life by Jay McInerney.
Sheila Levine is Dead and Living In New York by Gail Parent
posted by SisterHavana at 10:58 AM on June 30, 2010
Sheila Levine is Dead and Living In New York by Gail Parent
posted by SisterHavana at 10:58 AM on June 30, 2010
Jim Carroll's Forced Entries covers New York's downtown arts (and drug) scene of the early '70s (plus an interlude in Northern California).
posted by scody at 1:01 PM on June 30, 2010
posted by scody at 1:01 PM on June 30, 2010
Seconding Let the Great World Spin (set in 1974). I love, love, love this book.
I also loved When You Reach Me by Rachel Stead, which is set in 1979.
Not books, but I am currently obsessed with these pictures.
posted by Violet Hour at 2:48 PM on June 30, 2010
I also loved When You Reach Me by Rachel Stead, which is set in 1979.
Not books, but I am currently obsessed with these pictures.
posted by Violet Hour at 2:48 PM on June 30, 2010
there's a Jim Jarmusch movie set on the Lower East Side in the early 1980s, whose name I forget
Stranger than Paradise?
posted by tallus at 2:51 PM on June 30, 2010
Stranger than Paradise?
posted by tallus at 2:51 PM on June 30, 2010
Parts of Erica Jong's Fear of Flying and How to Save Your Own Life. Norma Klein.
Paula Danziger's Remember Me to Harold Square.
Mary Rogers' Freaky Friday and sequels Summer Switch and A Billion for Boris.
posted by brujita at 11:40 PM on June 30, 2010
Paula Danziger's Remember Me to Harold Square.
Mary Rogers' Freaky Friday and sequels Summer Switch and A Billion for Boris.
posted by brujita at 11:40 PM on June 30, 2010
There's also this article Rememberance of an Art Scene in a Downtown Past.
posted by Violet Hour at 1:04 AM on July 1, 2010
posted by Violet Hour at 1:04 AM on July 1, 2010
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Jonathan Lethem's Fortress of Solitude (and, to a lesser extent, Motherless Brooklyn) do a good job with 70s Brooklyn.
posted by griphus at 7:18 AM on June 30, 2010