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November 29, 2006 10:57 AM Subscribe
What's the word for when someone tries to make themselves look charitable, or altruistic, but they are clearly acting out of other interests?
I remember an episode of the Daily Show, where they interviewed a Minuteman who surveyed the US-Canada border to keep illegals from entering the country. Despite the apparent ridiculousness of his action, he still had this false "Do you think I want to be doing this? There are many things I'd rather be doing!" air about him.
It's a trait I've noticed in a lot of people (probably myself included at times), and I'd like to know how to properly refer to it.
I remember an episode of the Daily Show, where they interviewed a Minuteman who surveyed the US-Canada border to keep illegals from entering the country. Despite the apparent ridiculousness of his action, he still had this false "Do you think I want to be doing this? There are many things I'd rather be doing!" air about him.
It's a trait I've noticed in a lot of people (probably myself included at times), and I'd like to know how to properly refer to it.
disingenuous?
posted by bitdamaged at 11:09 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by bitdamaged at 11:09 AM on November 29, 2006
Not a single word, but it can be said that such people have ulterior motives. (Note the spelling, please: it's ulterior, not alterior, an all-too-common mistake.)
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 11:11 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 11:11 AM on November 29, 2006
People acting this way are often referred to sarcastically as martyrs. You could try "self-proclaimed martyr" if you wanted to be unambiguous.
posted by teleskiving at 11:15 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by teleskiving at 11:15 AM on November 29, 2006
Calculating? Heck, I read enough sociobiology that I can't see 'altruism' as anything not involving gains for self.
When it's especially telling, public, or personally annoying, I use Anton LaVey's term 'Good-Guy Badge'.
posted by cobaltnine at 11:15 AM on November 29, 2006
When it's especially telling, public, or personally annoying, I use Anton LaVey's term 'Good-Guy Badge'.
posted by cobaltnine at 11:15 AM on November 29, 2006
I agree there is no one word that captures it. That said, when people call someone a "martyr" they rarely mean it genuinely. If you wanted to be extra positive you could say a "self-styled martyr."
FWIW, "disingenuous," to me, meanings "pretending not to know something one knows bloody well is true."
posted by argybarg at 11:16 AM on November 29, 2006
FWIW, "disingenuous," to me, meanings "pretending not to know something one knows bloody well is true."
posted by argybarg at 11:16 AM on November 29, 2006
I second bitdamaged and loiseau. Those are the two I would use.
You might also use "greedy" or "self serving".
posted by smallerdemon at 11:31 AM on November 29, 2006
You might also use "greedy" or "self serving".
posted by smallerdemon at 11:31 AM on November 29, 2006
Dissimulation. Or, just plain old hypocrisy.
posted by trip and a half at 11:34 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by trip and a half at 11:34 AM on November 29, 2006
duplicitous might apply: deceptive in words or action
posted by allelopath at 11:44 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by allelopath at 11:44 AM on November 29, 2006
Politician? Otherwise I would go for disingenuous or ulterior motives.
posted by baggers at 11:46 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by baggers at 11:46 AM on November 29, 2006
oops, sorry loiseau, didn't mean to steal your thunder
posted by allelopath at 11:47 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by allelopath at 11:47 AM on November 29, 2006
Acting out of noblesse oblige? Although, I'm not sure that necessarily has overtly negative connotations.
posted by penchant at 11:56 AM on November 29, 2006
posted by penchant at 11:56 AM on November 29, 2006
self serving.
noblesse oblige is not ignoble... it is the responsibility nobility has to take care of the less fortunet.
posted by ewkpates at 12:01 PM on November 29, 2006
noblesse oblige is not ignoble... it is the responsibility nobility has to take care of the less fortunet.
posted by ewkpates at 12:01 PM on November 29, 2006
If I may carry the header to its obvious conclusion, Pharisees and hypocrites.
posted by ilsa at 12:09 PM on November 29, 2006
posted by ilsa at 12:09 PM on November 29, 2006
Martyr complex.
posted by russilwvong at 12:35 PM on November 29, 2006
posted by russilwvong at 12:35 PM on November 29, 2006
"False charity".
Disingenuity and duplicity don't really fit.
posted by solid-one-love at 2:30 PM on November 29, 2006
Disingenuity and duplicity don't really fit.
posted by solid-one-love at 2:30 PM on November 29, 2006
Best answer: You can be duplicitous without exhibiting the behavior described. You could, for instance, just be lying. Dittio dissimulation and self-serving.
Sanctimonious gets a little closer.
posted by argybarg at 3:32 PM on November 29, 2006
Sanctimonious gets a little closer.
posted by argybarg at 3:32 PM on November 29, 2006
also pious -- in the sense of "falsely earnest or sincere," not devout.
posted by FelliniBlank at 4:23 PM on November 29, 2006
posted by FelliniBlank at 4:23 PM on November 29, 2006
psuedoeleemosynaristic?
posted by Falconetti at 4:52 PM on November 29, 2006
posted by Falconetti at 4:52 PM on November 29, 2006
meretriciously, duplicitously facetious. Why use one word when you can use an amalgam of confusing jargon! Hurray!!
posted by stratastar at 5:47 PM on November 29, 2006
posted by stratastar at 5:47 PM on November 29, 2006
I think bitdamaged has it right. "Disingenuous" is what you want for the Minuteman guy.
posted by ontic at 6:01 PM on November 29, 2006
posted by ontic at 6:01 PM on November 29, 2006
Get off the cross, we could use the wood.
I'm so stealing that.
posted by Mr. Gunn at 11:01 PM on November 29, 2006
I'm so stealing that.
posted by Mr. Gunn at 11:01 PM on November 29, 2006
Phillip Morris? I keep hearing how they spend more money proclaiming that they are doing good deeds than on the good deeds themselves. As in, more money on commercials about how they're telling people not to smoke than on commercials telling people not to smoke. Sheesh.
posted by orangemiles at 3:50 AM on November 30, 2006
posted by orangemiles at 3:50 AM on November 30, 2006
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posted by interrobang at 11:03 AM on November 29, 2006