How does one dress their body for bad weather?
September 24, 2023 6:53 PM Subscribe
I am a lady who enjoys spending time outdoors but does a poor job dressing for bad weather (rain, snow, etc). This has previously limited my hiking to clear weather in the spring and summer. I’d like to change this, but I don’t know how to dress myself properly.
I went for a nature walk in the rain today and discovered that my rain jacket had a terrible hood and no flexibility. The cotton pants I had on felt terrible when wet. The walk was actually very lovely, and I get that feeling wet isn’t ever great, but I feel like there must be a strategy to this. I heard someone say that the Germans have a saying - “there is no bad weather, only bad clothes.” I have the same problem in the winter, I don’t think I know how dress to be active outside in the cold.
I would like both strategies for dressing for outdoor activities in bad weather and specific clothing recommendations. I’m fat and usually wear a US woman’s 16/18 so if recommendations could be size inclusive that be grand. I’m living in New England, and this will be my first winter here. I’m not new to snow, but come from a milder climate.
I went for a nature walk in the rain today and discovered that my rain jacket had a terrible hood and no flexibility. The cotton pants I had on felt terrible when wet. The walk was actually very lovely, and I get that feeling wet isn’t ever great, but I feel like there must be a strategy to this. I heard someone say that the Germans have a saying - “there is no bad weather, only bad clothes.” I have the same problem in the winter, I don’t think I know how dress to be active outside in the cold.
I would like both strategies for dressing for outdoor activities in bad weather and specific clothing recommendations. I’m fat and usually wear a US woman’s 16/18 so if recommendations could be size inclusive that be grand. I’m living in New England, and this will be my first winter here. I’m not new to snow, but come from a milder climate.
REI's How to Dress in Cold Weather (layering strategy), Clothing Tips for Wet-Weather Hiking ("Avoid cotton if you can. This is key for next-to-skin layers because cotton holds water, including your sweat, and chills you. In a worst-case scenario, that can lead to hypothermia. Go with wicking materials that move moisture away from your skin. Wool, nylon and polyester are all preferable to cotton in outdoor clothing.")
REI & REI Co-op carry many sizes; examples, Rainier Rain Jacket, Rainier Rain Pants, and Trailmade Rain Pants at the Co-op. Keeping your feet warm & dry is important; you may want to carry lightweight flats in your bag and keep spare shoes in your car for changing out of your boots.
posted by Iris Gambol at 7:33 PM on September 24, 2023 [5 favorites]
REI & REI Co-op carry many sizes; examples, Rainier Rain Jacket, Rainier Rain Pants, and Trailmade Rain Pants at the Co-op. Keeping your feet warm & dry is important; you may want to carry lightweight flats in your bag and keep spare shoes in your car for changing out of your boots.
posted by Iris Gambol at 7:33 PM on September 24, 2023 [5 favorites]
I know nothing about shopping in New England or if REI is available to shop in there, but I'd probably say to find the nearest outdoor-hiking-stuff store and go in there and ask the staff what to buy. That would probably be more effective than someone from the wrong coast giving you advice for the wrong climate. But I'd probably say to look for hiking boots* or anything with treads on the bottom, look for "waterproof" anything in fabric.
* note: rain boots have just made my feet break into rashes, so I don't feel I can recommend them, alas.
I would say to get some kind of rain hat (mine is basically Indiana Jones's) rather than wearing a hood in rain. Hoods just fall off, impair my vision when they hang down too far, etc.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:47 PM on September 24, 2023
* note: rain boots have just made my feet break into rashes, so I don't feel I can recommend them, alas.
I would say to get some kind of rain hat (mine is basically Indiana Jones's) rather than wearing a hood in rain. Hoods just fall off, impair my vision when they hang down too far, etc.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:47 PM on September 24, 2023
Woolx carries 16/18 and I like their tops. I find their wool leggings a little scratchy, but not unbearable.
posted by EvaDestruction at 7:54 PM on September 24, 2023
posted by EvaDestruction at 7:54 PM on September 24, 2023
I am a big fan of hiking in bad weather - it's so delightful to be dry under the proper clothing in a complete downpour - you are the only one out and nature is extra beautiful at that time.
A couple tips. I made the mistake thinking that if it was cold out, the more layers the better - but if you are moving you'll get hot. So get a wicking first layer that matches the temperature - heavier if snow, lighter if rain. Then for rain a really good performance rain coat and rain pants from REI (generic brand) will work great. I haven't mastered good shoes for rain so I just use rubber rain boots, which keep my feet dry, and if you get tall ones, you can walk through shallow creeks and puddles, but they can be slippery. I bet there is something better out there.
Here are some suggestions for top layers:
REI Co-op XeroDry GTX Long Jacket - Women's
REI Co-op Rainier Full-Zip Rain Pants - Women's Plus Sizes
posted by Toddles at 7:56 PM on September 24, 2023 [5 favorites]
A couple tips. I made the mistake thinking that if it was cold out, the more layers the better - but if you are moving you'll get hot. So get a wicking first layer that matches the temperature - heavier if snow, lighter if rain. Then for rain a really good performance rain coat and rain pants from REI (generic brand) will work great. I haven't mastered good shoes for rain so I just use rubber rain boots, which keep my feet dry, and if you get tall ones, you can walk through shallow creeks and puddles, but they can be slippery. I bet there is something better out there.
Here are some suggestions for top layers:
REI Co-op XeroDry GTX Long Jacket - Women's
REI Co-op Rainier Full-Zip Rain Pants - Women's Plus Sizes
posted by Toddles at 7:56 PM on September 24, 2023 [5 favorites]
For cold weather, you want layers, and you need those layers to both keep warm air close to you body and wick sweat away from your skin to the outer layers. If you sweat under your layers, it will make you cold. I am also a fat woman, so I have specific suggestions for you.
For feet -- wool socks from darn tough. Wool will be warm even when wet. You will hear mixed messages about waterproof shoes, but I personally hate them. Maybe they keep water out, but my feet still sweat, so I don't find them to be worthwhile.
For legs -- I personally don't like my legs to be overly warm. I wear Lands End 5-pocket active pants. They are like leggings, but not as tight. In cold weather (like under 30F), I wear Lands End Thermaskin Heat Thermal Pants.
For your torso -- I'm a bit weird about this, I like my layers to go in this order: long-sleeved base layer, tank top, long-sleeved mid layer, outer layer. This way I can take off my outer layer and remove either the mid layer and/or the tank top as needed, then put the outer layer back on. If the tank top is under the base layer, then I have to strip completely nude to take that tank top off!!! I'll share my favorites below, but what's really important is that you find a combination of layers that work well together. When you move your arm, all the layers should move together, as if you were wearing one shirt. There should be no pulling or bunching. Also, your base layer needs to be more form fitting and tighter than you might be used to -- it should fit close, but not constricting.
Here are my torso picks: Base layer -- this Costco Seg'ments Wool Shirt. The link has only small sizes, but I bought plus sizes in store; or this Land's End Silk base layer. Tank top: this WoolX tank (or honestly, any woolX tank): WoolX Brooklyn tank.
Mid-layer: this LL Bean Women's AirLight Pullover. I love this thing! It's very light but super warm.
Ok, now outer layers. I'll be honest, a good plus size active rain jacket is hard to find. I have one from REI, but I can't really recommend it. I'm hoping other people make suggestions for you here!
My favorite outer layer is a mid-weight full-zip fleece from LL Bean. They don't make my specific one any more, but it's similar to this one. It's important that you try and find one with a loose or straight fit -- the fitted styes will be too restrictive on top of all the other layers.
A couple other things I have that I like are a light fleece fitted vest, like this one. On a really cold day, I skip the tank top and wear this on top of the mid-layer and under my outer layer. I also like these silk glove liners. I've worn them under gloves and under mittens, and they really increase the warmth and the wind resistance of whatever I wear them under. I also really like these HEAD touchscreen running gloves -- although the touchscreen part won't work if you wear them with the liners.
posted by OrangeDisk at 8:11 PM on September 24, 2023 [7 favorites]
For feet -- wool socks from darn tough. Wool will be warm even when wet. You will hear mixed messages about waterproof shoes, but I personally hate them. Maybe they keep water out, but my feet still sweat, so I don't find them to be worthwhile.
For legs -- I personally don't like my legs to be overly warm. I wear Lands End 5-pocket active pants. They are like leggings, but not as tight. In cold weather (like under 30F), I wear Lands End Thermaskin Heat Thermal Pants.
For your torso -- I'm a bit weird about this, I like my layers to go in this order: long-sleeved base layer, tank top, long-sleeved mid layer, outer layer. This way I can take off my outer layer and remove either the mid layer and/or the tank top as needed, then put the outer layer back on. If the tank top is under the base layer, then I have to strip completely nude to take that tank top off!!! I'll share my favorites below, but what's really important is that you find a combination of layers that work well together. When you move your arm, all the layers should move together, as if you were wearing one shirt. There should be no pulling or bunching. Also, your base layer needs to be more form fitting and tighter than you might be used to -- it should fit close, but not constricting.
Here are my torso picks: Base layer -- this Costco Seg'ments Wool Shirt. The link has only small sizes, but I bought plus sizes in store; or this Land's End Silk base layer. Tank top: this WoolX tank (or honestly, any woolX tank): WoolX Brooklyn tank.
Mid-layer: this LL Bean Women's AirLight Pullover. I love this thing! It's very light but super warm.
Ok, now outer layers. I'll be honest, a good plus size active rain jacket is hard to find. I have one from REI, but I can't really recommend it. I'm hoping other people make suggestions for you here!
My favorite outer layer is a mid-weight full-zip fleece from LL Bean. They don't make my specific one any more, but it's similar to this one. It's important that you try and find one with a loose or straight fit -- the fitted styes will be too restrictive on top of all the other layers.
A couple other things I have that I like are a light fleece fitted vest, like this one. On a really cold day, I skip the tank top and wear this on top of the mid-layer and under my outer layer. I also like these silk glove liners. I've worn them under gloves and under mittens, and they really increase the warmth and the wind resistance of whatever I wear them under. I also really like these HEAD touchscreen running gloves -- although the touchscreen part won't work if you wear them with the liners.
posted by OrangeDisk at 8:11 PM on September 24, 2023 [7 favorites]
I hike in the upper Hudson valley and southern New England in all four seasons. I also do a fair amount of hiking in parts of Europe that see a lot of rain. Here’s how I do it:
If it’s temperate rainy weather - that is, above 55f-ish - I wear medium weight hiking leggings in a performance fabric or wool blend, darn tough calf-high wool socks, and water resistant hiking boots on my lower half. Above I’ll wear a half-zip long-sleeve wool base layer shirt and a rain jacket with pit zips and a front zipper that unzips from the bottom or the top, so I can adjust air flow as I heat up with exertion or cool down with rest. I also have a wide-brim rain hat, because I hate how even well-fitting hoods restrict my peripheral vision and hearing. Most critically, I accept that everything below my jacket will be soaked through during the hike, but that the wool will keep my feet and legs warm even when wet.
In cold wet weather above freezing, I wear the above but in heavier fabric weights, and add a second pair of loose fitting rain pants over the leggings, a thin down vest under the jacket, and wool gloves and a hat for my head. It’s always a hard call to say when I switch from my lighter weight water resistant hiking boots to my fully insulated winter boots, because the latter are heavier and less enjoyable to walk in; the deciding factors generally have to do with the kind of trail and length of the walk. I have cut hikes short when I realized I had the wrong footwear because that’s my particular pain point.
In all cases, I keep a set of cozy dry clothes in the car for after my hike, dry socks, sweatpants, a fleece, etc. I carry a thermos of with a hot drink in my pack on any walk colder than 55F, too. So soothing.
The above has taken me a while to get figured out. Don’t hesitate to take short hikes to try out new outfits and see what is and isn’t working. A local hiking club - particularly one run by women! - can be a great resource.
(Also? Gear can be stupid expensive. I have gotten almost all of my hiking clothing aside from socks and boots from the gear exchange, thredup, and the rei outlet.)
posted by minervous at 8:28 PM on September 24, 2023 [8 favorites]
If it’s temperate rainy weather - that is, above 55f-ish - I wear medium weight hiking leggings in a performance fabric or wool blend, darn tough calf-high wool socks, and water resistant hiking boots on my lower half. Above I’ll wear a half-zip long-sleeve wool base layer shirt and a rain jacket with pit zips and a front zipper that unzips from the bottom or the top, so I can adjust air flow as I heat up with exertion or cool down with rest. I also have a wide-brim rain hat, because I hate how even well-fitting hoods restrict my peripheral vision and hearing. Most critically, I accept that everything below my jacket will be soaked through during the hike, but that the wool will keep my feet and legs warm even when wet.
In cold wet weather above freezing, I wear the above but in heavier fabric weights, and add a second pair of loose fitting rain pants over the leggings, a thin down vest under the jacket, and wool gloves and a hat for my head. It’s always a hard call to say when I switch from my lighter weight water resistant hiking boots to my fully insulated winter boots, because the latter are heavier and less enjoyable to walk in; the deciding factors generally have to do with the kind of trail and length of the walk. I have cut hikes short when I realized I had the wrong footwear because that’s my particular pain point.
In all cases, I keep a set of cozy dry clothes in the car for after my hike, dry socks, sweatpants, a fleece, etc. I carry a thermos of with a hot drink in my pack on any walk colder than 55F, too. So soothing.
The above has taken me a while to get figured out. Don’t hesitate to take short hikes to try out new outfits and see what is and isn’t working. A local hiking club - particularly one run by women! - can be a great resource.
(Also? Gear can be stupid expensive. I have gotten almost all of my hiking clothing aside from socks and boots from the gear exchange, thredup, and the rei outlet.)
posted by minervous at 8:28 PM on September 24, 2023 [8 favorites]
This is my go-to definitive article about layering for cold weather adventures. I can't recommend reading through it highly enough.
posted by dorothy hawk at 8:34 PM on September 24, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by dorothy hawk at 8:34 PM on September 24, 2023 [2 favorites]
Oh one thing I will add that Colin Haley doesn't address in that article: persistent heavy rain and relative warmth (i.e. above 40-50, enough to make you sweat). In these conditions, staying dry for more than about an hour is an impossibility, despite what clothing makers would have you believe. "Waterproof-breathable" is a myth: either it's waterproof enough to keep the water out but also your sweat in, or it's breathable enough to let the rain in. Either way, you'll get soaked.
The trick is to change your mindset: it's not about "staying dry", it's about "staying warm". Layers that wick, jackets with huge vents under the arms to dump moisture, and above all clothing that stays warm while damp is the key. Once I changed my mindset from "gotta stay dry" to "warm and wet is fine", my enjoyment of rainy days shot up. (This is more complex once you start talking about multi-day trips, but that's another story...)
posted by dorothy hawk at 8:40 PM on September 24, 2023 [7 favorites]
The trick is to change your mindset: it's not about "staying dry", it's about "staying warm". Layers that wick, jackets with huge vents under the arms to dump moisture, and above all clothing that stays warm while damp is the key. Once I changed my mindset from "gotta stay dry" to "warm and wet is fine", my enjoyment of rainy days shot up. (This is more complex once you start talking about multi-day trips, but that's another story...)
posted by dorothy hawk at 8:40 PM on September 24, 2023 [7 favorites]
You are in New England so get yourself to LL Bean, of course. Here is their plus size selection, and also they have plenty of hiking and similar outdoor gear and accessories like good socks and hats and such.
One thing about nature walks in the wet when chubby is there are issues of chafing that are exacerbated more than you would think. It can be a lifesaver to wear some under layers that are close to the body with looser layers on top, to keep things from rubbing and getting sticky and having no avenue for evaporation. My mom is a big fan of Bean’s silk pointelle base layers; they are very lightweight and not constricting but do keep everything contained and comfy. Other materials are good for different purposes, like waffle knits are great for warmth and performance fabrics do their wicking quick dry thing, so you can use base layers for customizing more general purpose clothes for hiking in different conditions. Also, if you want to keep something extra secure and/or dry, you can keep a small crossbody or waist bag between your base layer and regular clothes. Good for ID, phone, etc, and again no chafing of bag straps.
posted by Mizu at 9:24 PM on September 24, 2023 [5 favorites]
One thing about nature walks in the wet when chubby is there are issues of chafing that are exacerbated more than you would think. It can be a lifesaver to wear some under layers that are close to the body with looser layers on top, to keep things from rubbing and getting sticky and having no avenue for evaporation. My mom is a big fan of Bean’s silk pointelle base layers; they are very lightweight and not constricting but do keep everything contained and comfy. Other materials are good for different purposes, like waffle knits are great for warmth and performance fabrics do their wicking quick dry thing, so you can use base layers for customizing more general purpose clothes for hiking in different conditions. Also, if you want to keep something extra secure and/or dry, you can keep a small crossbody or waist bag between your base layer and regular clothes. Good for ID, phone, etc, and again no chafing of bag straps.
posted by Mizu at 9:24 PM on September 24, 2023 [5 favorites]
I live in on an island in Southeast Alaska where we receive about 160 inches (or 400 cm) of rain in a year on average, much of it, in the winter months, accompanied by fiercely lashing gale winds, and I walk every day, though it's true I walk further in good weather.
But I can tell you from considerable personal experience that appropriate clothing can make a huge difference.
I would echo many of the recommendations made so far - use layers, avoid cotton as much as possible when you expect to get wet, invest in good socks.
One thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet concerns your comment about the deficiencies of your hood. I can't guess what was wrong with your hood from the limited information presented, and many otherwise nice-seeming jackets and shells do have poorly designed hoods, but it is also possible that you were wearing an outer layer where the hood is more or less expected to be used in conjunction with a ball cap. Many hoods don't really have the structure to stay in place on their own but benefit greatly from being paired with a baseball-style cap. Or at least that's my opinion - I've never been told so explicitly but I've had a bunch of shells over the years where the hood was far more functional when used with a cap. You might try that the next time, if you have such a cap handy.
One other note: their stuff is hardly fashionable, their house brands are decent but not the same quality as some of the premier outdoor brands, and I'm not terribly thrilled with their politics but.. Cabelas' carries technical clothing in a wider range of sizes than many outdoor companies who feel that outdoor activity is only of interest to certain body types. I'd certainly explore other options first, but if you or someone you know is having trouble finding gear that fits, they are a possible option.
posted by Nerd of the North at 9:59 PM on September 24, 2023 [6 favorites]
But I can tell you from considerable personal experience that appropriate clothing can make a huge difference.
I would echo many of the recommendations made so far - use layers, avoid cotton as much as possible when you expect to get wet, invest in good socks.
One thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet concerns your comment about the deficiencies of your hood. I can't guess what was wrong with your hood from the limited information presented, and many otherwise nice-seeming jackets and shells do have poorly designed hoods, but it is also possible that you were wearing an outer layer where the hood is more or less expected to be used in conjunction with a ball cap. Many hoods don't really have the structure to stay in place on their own but benefit greatly from being paired with a baseball-style cap. Or at least that's my opinion - I've never been told so explicitly but I've had a bunch of shells over the years where the hood was far more functional when used with a cap. You might try that the next time, if you have such a cap handy.
One other note: their stuff is hardly fashionable, their house brands are decent but not the same quality as some of the premier outdoor brands, and I'm not terribly thrilled with their politics but.. Cabelas' carries technical clothing in a wider range of sizes than many outdoor companies who feel that outdoor activity is only of interest to certain body types. I'd certainly explore other options first, but if you or someone you know is having trouble finding gear that fits, they are a possible option.
posted by Nerd of the North at 9:59 PM on September 24, 2023 [6 favorites]
> But I'd probably say to look for hiking boots* or anything with treads on the bottom, look for "waterproof" anything in fabric.
Waterproof is insufficient - if you step in slush or melt, it will draw all the heat out of your foot.
You want something from the winter footwear section of REI.
posted by sebastienbailard at 11:12 PM on September 24, 2023
Waterproof is insufficient - if you step in slush or melt, it will draw all the heat out of your foot.
You want something from the winter footwear section of REI.
posted by sebastienbailard at 11:12 PM on September 24, 2023
I'm about your size, and I just barely fit into the Women's XL that major outdoor gear manufacturers offer, so I do my shopping at various mainstream outdoor stores (REI when I have to, and a handful of independent local ones). I'm not at all shy about trying on men's gear for larger sizes, but my proportions usually make the women's cut a much better fit.
I'm not as hard-core as some people here, but mid-40's and above (or if it's snowing and not raining, down to the 20's), I'm pretty happy. (If it's in the 30's + rain + howling wind ... I know how to survive, but I'm probably not super excited. I don't do anything that would count as mountaineering or require me to know how to use an ice axe or avalanche beacon.) Here's what I wear:
Top:
* Lightweight capilene (synthetic) long underwear shirt. I've yet to find wool long underwear that I want to wear next to my skin, but the synthetic stuff WILL pick up a funk pretty quickly. I like this layer to be close-fitting, but not skin-tight.
* If it's particularly cold, I'll add a 2nd layer of long underwear, or a fleece vest.
* Down or synthetic puffy. My current one is a Spyder (I think? I found it on clearance), but you can just visit an outdoor store and try them on until you find something that fits. When I'm exercising, this is in my mostly-waterproof daypack, and it comes out to keep me warm on any longer breaks. (Though I usually don't like to take long breaks and cool off, so instead, it serves as my emergency backup layer.)
* I found an XL Arcteryx rain jacket on clearance at REI. It's big enough for me to layer under, and has generous pit zips. I'll wear this when it starts drizzling.
Hands:
* liner gloves are usually enough for me when hiking
* When skiing, I'll upgrade to insulated gloves/mittens
Head:
* If it's cold, I have a fleece hat that covers my ears
* if it's just rainy, I'll add a baseball cap under (or instead of) my rain coat hood.
* If it's colder / windier (30's and below / I'm skiing), I'll add a neck gaiter + a piece of fleece that velcros around my head, covering the top my nose and upper lip (there's a hole between them, and the nose piece is shaped to make this work). I always have icing/fogging issues if I have anything covering my mouth, but this combo minimizes exposed skin, and lets me breathe freely. I tried to find an online link, but failed. I bought mine at the Alta ski shop.
Bottom:
* Yoga pants with thicker fabric. I'm not sure what brand my current ones are. I just accept that these will get wet mid-thigh and down, but they're still warm enough, and don't get gross and clingy and cold the way cotton does. I can't hike in loose pants because they'll inevitably chafe. I don't own rain pants because I have not found a pair that isn't awkward and constricting to move in, while also turning into a sweatbox when you exercise.
* If it's cooler (40's / 50's), I'll add lightweight capilene long underwear bottoms.
* If I'm skiing or it's colder, I have ski pants -- they're not waterproof, but you can brush snow off of them before it melts in and soaks them. I had a pair of Marmot pants that I loved b/c they had room for curvy hips. My current pair has side zips that are awesome for managing temperature. However, this is where I'm pushing the bounds of straight sizing the most, so I don't get to be picky at all regarding features -- I'm lucky if I find a pair that fits well.
Feet:
* Darn Tough wool socks. Love them. This is the one brand I've named that I'll specifically recommend as superior to every other that I've tried.
* Lightweight hiking boots with a goretex layer, so I can step in several inches of water without it seeping in. I have an older version of these Salomon boots that I love so much that I stocked up when they were on closeout. I haven't done a ton of true winter hiking with these, but found them plenty warm enough for several miles through snow and intermittent slush.
posted by Metasyntactic at 1:38 AM on September 25, 2023 [3 favorites]
I'm not as hard-core as some people here, but mid-40's and above (or if it's snowing and not raining, down to the 20's), I'm pretty happy. (If it's in the 30's + rain + howling wind ... I know how to survive, but I'm probably not super excited. I don't do anything that would count as mountaineering or require me to know how to use an ice axe or avalanche beacon.) Here's what I wear:
Top:
* Lightweight capilene (synthetic) long underwear shirt. I've yet to find wool long underwear that I want to wear next to my skin, but the synthetic stuff WILL pick up a funk pretty quickly. I like this layer to be close-fitting, but not skin-tight.
* If it's particularly cold, I'll add a 2nd layer of long underwear, or a fleece vest.
* Down or synthetic puffy. My current one is a Spyder (I think? I found it on clearance), but you can just visit an outdoor store and try them on until you find something that fits. When I'm exercising, this is in my mostly-waterproof daypack, and it comes out to keep me warm on any longer breaks. (Though I usually don't like to take long breaks and cool off, so instead, it serves as my emergency backup layer.)
* I found an XL Arcteryx rain jacket on clearance at REI. It's big enough for me to layer under, and has generous pit zips. I'll wear this when it starts drizzling.
Hands:
* liner gloves are usually enough for me when hiking
* When skiing, I'll upgrade to insulated gloves/mittens
Head:
* If it's cold, I have a fleece hat that covers my ears
* if it's just rainy, I'll add a baseball cap under (or instead of) my rain coat hood.
* If it's colder / windier (30's and below / I'm skiing), I'll add a neck gaiter + a piece of fleece that velcros around my head, covering the top my nose and upper lip (there's a hole between them, and the nose piece is shaped to make this work). I always have icing/fogging issues if I have anything covering my mouth, but this combo minimizes exposed skin, and lets me breathe freely. I tried to find an online link, but failed. I bought mine at the Alta ski shop.
Bottom:
* Yoga pants with thicker fabric. I'm not sure what brand my current ones are. I just accept that these will get wet mid-thigh and down, but they're still warm enough, and don't get gross and clingy and cold the way cotton does. I can't hike in loose pants because they'll inevitably chafe. I don't own rain pants because I have not found a pair that isn't awkward and constricting to move in, while also turning into a sweatbox when you exercise.
* If it's cooler (40's / 50's), I'll add lightweight capilene long underwear bottoms.
* If I'm skiing or it's colder, I have ski pants -- they're not waterproof, but you can brush snow off of them before it melts in and soaks them. I had a pair of Marmot pants that I loved b/c they had room for curvy hips. My current pair has side zips that are awesome for managing temperature. However, this is where I'm pushing the bounds of straight sizing the most, so I don't get to be picky at all regarding features -- I'm lucky if I find a pair that fits well.
Feet:
* Darn Tough wool socks. Love them. This is the one brand I've named that I'll specifically recommend as superior to every other that I've tried.
* Lightweight hiking boots with a goretex layer, so I can step in several inches of water without it seeping in. I have an older version of these Salomon boots that I love so much that I stocked up when they were on closeout. I haven't done a ton of true winter hiking with these, but found them plenty warm enough for several miles through snow and intermittent slush.
posted by Metasyntactic at 1:38 AM on September 25, 2023 [3 favorites]
Something has helped me a lot is that once I addressed the full-body issues (underlayer, rain gear) I started to focus on what specific parts of my body were uncomfortable. For me, my wrists feet and neck make a big difference in my temperature regulation. As well, pants or jackets with sizeable pockets that I keep hothands in. Liner gloves also make a big difference for me. I buy cheap ones with little rubber dots on the palms for grip. I always wear wool socks. Personally i don't think the brand matters as long as they're wool and I find I don't mind being damp as long as I'm warm.
I work outside year-round so without these measures my life can quickly become a misery! You might look into workwear brands like carhart, etc. I wear my thinsulate work boots to hike in. Very popular in New England. Somewhat pricey but increasingly they are making women's workwear and I much prefer the look over REI/tactical brands. It's expected that women in the trades are bigger so there should be a variety of size options. My wife has a zip-up carhart vest that she wears over sweaters.
posted by Summers at 5:18 AM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
I work outside year-round so without these measures my life can quickly become a misery! You might look into workwear brands like carhart, etc. I wear my thinsulate work boots to hike in. Very popular in New England. Somewhat pricey but increasingly they are making women's workwear and I much prefer the look over REI/tactical brands. It's expected that women in the trades are bigger so there should be a variety of size options. My wife has a zip-up carhart vest that she wears over sweaters.
posted by Summers at 5:18 AM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
Their jackets haven't always held up as long as I'd like, but Columbia makes some of the best fitting clothes in your size range that I've found. The other place I've come to like is Duluth Trading Co.
posted by TwoStride at 5:51 AM on September 25, 2023
posted by TwoStride at 5:51 AM on September 25, 2023
(The common threads [har] in the answers above are dress in layers and buy the right fabrics. It really is that simple -- but good gear isn't cheap! It's one of the few places where the more money you throw at the problem, the easier it is to solve.)
You're in New England, so no one will blink at L.L. Bean style. I even wear badass mukluks from northern Minnesota that are probably overkill for recent New England winters -- but they keep my toesies warm so I honestly DGAF.
You can work from the outside ( parka, hard shell) inwards, or from the most miserable spots (cotton pants) to the most-comfy parts of you.
Go to an REI and rummage through their racks, randomly trying stuff on to find out which brands fit your body -- then watch their garage sale web pages and start buying gear you need from brands that fit.
posted by wenestvedt at 5:52 AM on September 25, 2023
You're in New England, so no one will blink at L.L. Bean style. I even wear badass mukluks from northern Minnesota that are probably overkill for recent New England winters -- but they keep my toesies warm so I honestly DGAF.
You can work from the outside ( parka, hard shell) inwards, or from the most miserable spots (cotton pants) to the most-comfy parts of you.
Go to an REI and rummage through their racks, randomly trying stuff on to find out which brands fit your body -- then watch their garage sale web pages and start buying gear you need from brands that fit.
posted by wenestvedt at 5:52 AM on September 25, 2023
Everyone upthread has already hit on the layering angle; backing that up with the fact that this is exactly what the host of a "how to dress for hiking in cold weather" lecture I attended said.
One thing he also said was about fabric - and he used me as an example, mentioning something I'd told him when we were chatting before the lecture started. He said that cotton is the worst fabric to use, because it traps moisture, and then it just sits around getting cold or even freezing - and that makes things worse. He then repeated a story I'd told him about going on a winter hike once; I'd been trying to cross a log over a very shallow stream, but slipped and stepped ankle-deep in the stream, in below-freezing weather. I turned around and headed for the car, which was at least a half-hour walk back. After about ten minutes I noticed I was hearing a clicking noise with each step and wondered what it was - then realized it was the wet cuff of my jeans which had frozen solid.
He added, too, that my jeans were the only clothing on me that froze - and I hadn't noticed how cold it was, because my socks, some long johns, shirt, and sweater were all wool, and my coat was appropriate for the weather. So even though it was cold enough to freeze my jeans, all the other wool material kept me warm enough that I didn't notice until I heard the frozen jeans clacking against my shoes.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:12 AM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
One thing he also said was about fabric - and he used me as an example, mentioning something I'd told him when we were chatting before the lecture started. He said that cotton is the worst fabric to use, because it traps moisture, and then it just sits around getting cold or even freezing - and that makes things worse. He then repeated a story I'd told him about going on a winter hike once; I'd been trying to cross a log over a very shallow stream, but slipped and stepped ankle-deep in the stream, in below-freezing weather. I turned around and headed for the car, which was at least a half-hour walk back. After about ten minutes I noticed I was hearing a clicking noise with each step and wondered what it was - then realized it was the wet cuff of my jeans which had frozen solid.
He added, too, that my jeans were the only clothing on me that froze - and I hadn't noticed how cold it was, because my socks, some long johns, shirt, and sweater were all wool, and my coat was appropriate for the weather. So even though it was cold enough to freeze my jeans, all the other wool material kept me warm enough that I didn't notice until I heard the frozen jeans clacking against my shoes.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:12 AM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
...cotton is the worst fabric to use, because it traps moisture, and then it just sits around getting cold or even freezing...
My son's Scoutmaster grimly intoned, "Cotton kills" whenever he spotted a kid in jeans or a sweatshirt on a campout or a hike.
(Mind you, none of them actually died, but they started to understand why they were too cold and then too hot and then too cold again before the event ended.)
posted by wenestvedt at 7:31 AM on September 25, 2023
My son's Scoutmaster grimly intoned, "Cotton kills" whenever he spotted a kid in jeans or a sweatshirt on a campout or a hike.
(Mind you, none of them actually died, but they started to understand why they were too cold and then too hot and then too cold again before the event ended.)
posted by wenestvedt at 7:31 AM on September 25, 2023
For rain, you need a hood which stays up by itself, and has some kind of stiffening so that it create a slight peak. This helps prevent it raining on your face. Other feature I like are a baffle for the zip and well protected vents.
posted by plonkee at 7:37 AM on September 25, 2023
posted by plonkee at 7:37 AM on September 25, 2023
Gore-Tex is the gold standard for actually waterproof top layers. I’m partial to Arctery’x for them, which while quite pricey, are incredibly well designed and go up to XXL sizes. They have a lot of different designs but I favor the light-to-medium weight upper body rain shells because they can be worn alone in spring or on top of a bunch of layers for winter.
They also have good warranties even if originally purchased on discount from a retailer like Backcountry or REI that sometimes has them in weird colors on discount at the end of season. I mailed one to them for repairs after a couple of years because a seam opened up near the armpit and they gave me a website credit for the full value of the jacket because it was unrepairable. I used that credit to buy a one size larger, slightly higher quality jacket for about 1/4 the price of a new jacket.
I also have cheaper waterproof pants but I almost never use them, I find that unless I’m in cold enough weather and enough of a downpour that it’s unsafe for me to wear a base layer of thermal leggings and synthetic pants, they’re just not worth the hassle.
posted by A Blue Moon at 7:46 AM on September 25, 2023
They also have good warranties even if originally purchased on discount from a retailer like Backcountry or REI that sometimes has them in weird colors on discount at the end of season. I mailed one to them for repairs after a couple of years because a seam opened up near the armpit and they gave me a website credit for the full value of the jacket because it was unrepairable. I used that credit to buy a one size larger, slightly higher quality jacket for about 1/4 the price of a new jacket.
I also have cheaper waterproof pants but I almost never use them, I find that unless I’m in cold enough weather and enough of a downpour that it’s unsafe for me to wear a base layer of thermal leggings and synthetic pants, they’re just not worth the hassle.
posted by A Blue Moon at 7:46 AM on September 25, 2023
I am also trying to figure out how to walk around in weather that is not necessarily dry nor sunny. About six months ago I discovered the existence of hiking pants which was a totally new thing to me. I was able to buy a pair of pants similar to these on sale because I couldn’t afford to spend the full amount. I put them on today when I needed to walk through some woods to a shopping center on a super windy day that had some sprinkles. Which is to say I did not need base layers or any of that other stuff but these pants make my life so much better! Before them I would have just skipped taking the walk. And then I would’ve been moody and blue for the rest of the day because I really need to walk for my mental health. You don’t have to get everything all at once. Maybe start with some hiking pants. I also own a pair of ski pants, which are overkill when it’s not cold. Alas, I’ve never found a pair of rain pants that don’t feel clammy and uncomfortable. Perhaps you will have better luck. Don’t give up!
posted by Bella Donna at 8:16 AM on September 25, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Bella Donna at 8:16 AM on September 25, 2023 [1 favorite]
Bring an umbrella!
No clothing is waterproof, it’s a matter of how many minutes you get before it’s soaked through. In that case, the technical baselayer (I prefer wool) will still keep you warm while wet. Don’t worry about buying goretex or the really expensive stuff. I do a lot of rock climbing and skiing in the mountains (French alps, Norway fjords) and I have survived without it.
posted by just.good.enough at 8:46 AM on September 25, 2023
No clothing is waterproof, it’s a matter of how many minutes you get before it’s soaked through. In that case, the technical baselayer (I prefer wool) will still keep you warm while wet. Don’t worry about buying goretex or the really expensive stuff. I do a lot of rock climbing and skiing in the mountains (French alps, Norway fjords) and I have survived without it.
posted by just.good.enough at 8:46 AM on September 25, 2023
I don't have any personal experience with their performance gear, but you might take a look at Junoactive.com for plus size athletic gear.
posted by sarajane at 8:50 AM on September 25, 2023
posted by sarajane at 8:50 AM on September 25, 2023
There's a saying - There's no such thing as bead weather, just inadequate gear. I got a hooded rain shell/ jacket from LL Bean when I worked there. Big enough to go over a wool sweater or fleece, but fine on its own. I prefer a rain hat or cap to a hood, but the hood adds warmth on a cold day. In warm rainy weather, I prefer shorts and bug dope over long pants, in cooler weather I have a pair of sturdy yoga/ athletic leggings(LLBean). I wear Keens water sandals and don't mind if my feet get wet on a walk less that 1 hour or so. Better to have a fleece or wool layer available, in case you get cold. I have Bogs pull on rubber boots if it's cool and wet, and insulated, pretty water-resistant boots for winter.
I have a stash of thin, cheap stretchy gloves, great for cool days; hats help too. And it's easier to add/ remove a hat or gloves when you're cold or warm. I like a cotton tshirt under everything, but you can get base layer/ long underwear. Jeans and cotton just get damp/ wet and uncomfortable fast - dangerous in cold weather. I'm in Maine, when I worked at LL Bean, I was able to get great cold weather gear, including good boots and a heavy down coat. It's made getting outdoors way nicer.
posted by theora55 at 9:24 AM on September 25, 2023
I have a stash of thin, cheap stretchy gloves, great for cool days; hats help too. And it's easier to add/ remove a hat or gloves when you're cold or warm. I like a cotton tshirt under everything, but you can get base layer/ long underwear. Jeans and cotton just get damp/ wet and uncomfortable fast - dangerous in cold weather. I'm in Maine, when I worked at LL Bean, I was able to get great cold weather gear, including good boots and a heavy down coat. It's made getting outdoors way nicer.
posted by theora55 at 9:24 AM on September 25, 2023
I find most hoods don't fit property - but baseball cap + hood works great, as the cap provides support for the hood, and in addition you have the bill of the cap to keep even more rain off.
Layers are your friend in cold weather, as others have said.
posted by essexjan at 9:38 AM on September 25, 2023
Layers are your friend in cold weather, as others have said.
posted by essexjan at 9:38 AM on September 25, 2023
For me, dressing for hikes in rainy or changing weather comes down to a couple basic rules. I layer individual pieces that each solve only part of the problem I expect to have, and I assume that once I get moving I'm going to generate enough heat that I'll want to be dressed for warmer weather.
On top I'll start with a synthetic t-shirt (usually short sleeve, but see below) and maybe layer a light long sleeve full-zip top over it. I have a soft shell jacket that's pretty rain repellent and very breathable, so I'll wear that in most cool-to-cold scenarios, with or without rain. It's generally repellent enough that I don't bother with a rain jacket, but I have a one-better-than-cheapest rain jacket from REI that I'll wear if it's pouring (I think the current equivalent to what I have is their Rainier jacket). And if it's very cold, very windy, or I expect to stop moving for long periods (like, to eat lunch or take photos) I have a synthetic puffer (specifically the men's version of LL Bean's Primaloft Packaway) that I'll throw on over the soft shell. I like having a synthetic puffer instead of a down puffer simply because I don't have to worry about protecting it from rain.
Side note from personal experience: I really try to avoid needing my rain jacket because even the best rain jacket will make me a sweaty mess underneath. Also the inner layer of a "2.5 layer" rain shell that's supposed to keep it from sticking to sweaty skin DOES NOTHING. If I'm hiking in a scenario that's rainy enough for the rain jacket but not cold enough for my soft shell, that's probably the one scenario where I'll choose a long sleeve base layer instead of just a t-shirt, just to keep from having that clammy feeling of a rain jacket on my arms.
On the bottom, I generally hike in running tights because I've had problems with chafing, although I have a couple pairs of regular-looking hiking pants I might layer over them if the weather or terrain call for it. Polyester is better for this than nylon (nylon soaks up water in a way polyester doesn't), but nylon is still much better than cotton (because it dries faster). Pants or leggings specifically made for hiking will probably be more resistant to abrasion than whatever's cheap at Costco or Target, but as long as you're not expecting a rock scramble you may be fine in any pair of leggings as long as they're not a cotton blend and it's not super cold.
If it's cold and not just cool (keeping in mind that once you're moving you'll feel warmer), tights with a brushed fabric like Athleta's Rainier Tight are warmer than basic leggings; if you're going hiking in VERY COLD weather you could look for pants made from Polartec Power Stretch but seriously, unless it's VERY COLD (or you personally run very cold) you don't need them. I have bought tights from Athleta, but not those specific products; my own Polartec Power Stretch tights came from REI when they sold them in men's sizes for like a minute. If you're a Lululemon fan their Swift Speed running tights come in extended sizes in some colors and make a great basic tight for hiking. I liked Speed Up tights more, but they've been discontinued for years. (And yes, I'm a straight man with opinions about women's running tights, because when I first started searching for tights in tall sizes that pretty much meant buying from Athleta; once I got over it, I was over it for good).
I won't try to recommend shoes or boots, because everybody's feet and needs are different, but wool socks are universal. Mine are from Swiftwick because Smartwool failed me too many times and I felt like branching out, but people also love Darn Tough as evidenced above.
posted by fedward at 10:20 AM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
On top I'll start with a synthetic t-shirt (usually short sleeve, but see below) and maybe layer a light long sleeve full-zip top over it. I have a soft shell jacket that's pretty rain repellent and very breathable, so I'll wear that in most cool-to-cold scenarios, with or without rain. It's generally repellent enough that I don't bother with a rain jacket, but I have a one-better-than-cheapest rain jacket from REI that I'll wear if it's pouring (I think the current equivalent to what I have is their Rainier jacket). And if it's very cold, very windy, or I expect to stop moving for long periods (like, to eat lunch or take photos) I have a synthetic puffer (specifically the men's version of LL Bean's Primaloft Packaway) that I'll throw on over the soft shell. I like having a synthetic puffer instead of a down puffer simply because I don't have to worry about protecting it from rain.
Side note from personal experience: I really try to avoid needing my rain jacket because even the best rain jacket will make me a sweaty mess underneath. Also the inner layer of a "2.5 layer" rain shell that's supposed to keep it from sticking to sweaty skin DOES NOTHING. If I'm hiking in a scenario that's rainy enough for the rain jacket but not cold enough for my soft shell, that's probably the one scenario where I'll choose a long sleeve base layer instead of just a t-shirt, just to keep from having that clammy feeling of a rain jacket on my arms.
On the bottom, I generally hike in running tights because I've had problems with chafing, although I have a couple pairs of regular-looking hiking pants I might layer over them if the weather or terrain call for it. Polyester is better for this than nylon (nylon soaks up water in a way polyester doesn't), but nylon is still much better than cotton (because it dries faster). Pants or leggings specifically made for hiking will probably be more resistant to abrasion than whatever's cheap at Costco or Target, but as long as you're not expecting a rock scramble you may be fine in any pair of leggings as long as they're not a cotton blend and it's not super cold.
If it's cold and not just cool (keeping in mind that once you're moving you'll feel warmer), tights with a brushed fabric like Athleta's Rainier Tight are warmer than basic leggings; if you're going hiking in VERY COLD weather you could look for pants made from Polartec Power Stretch but seriously, unless it's VERY COLD (or you personally run very cold) you don't need them. I have bought tights from Athleta, but not those specific products; my own Polartec Power Stretch tights came from REI when they sold them in men's sizes for like a minute. If you're a Lululemon fan their Swift Speed running tights come in extended sizes in some colors and make a great basic tight for hiking. I liked Speed Up tights more, but they've been discontinued for years. (And yes, I'm a straight man with opinions about women's running tights, because when I first started searching for tights in tall sizes that pretty much meant buying from Athleta; once I got over it, I was over it for good).
I won't try to recommend shoes or boots, because everybody's feet and needs are different, but wool socks are universal. Mine are from Swiftwick because Smartwool failed me too many times and I felt like branching out, but people also love Darn Tough as evidenced above.
posted by fedward at 10:20 AM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
In addition to the excellent advice given above, I’d like to say that my life as a Minnesotan literally changed when I bought some insulated, waterproof hiking boots at age 38. I loved them so much that my husband bought the same pair, and his life was similarly changed. I have Danner Mountain 600 boots, but I see they have others on sale (I got mine on clearance at REI).
I grew up with Sorel snow boots that made my socks fall off and were terrible for walking, then tried some Bogs in my 20s (more walkable, excellently waterproof, but not durable), then switched to Muck Boots (much more durable than Bogs). But for hiking and walking around in spring/fall/winter, nothing tops my Danner boots. Pair with some Darn Tough socks, and you’re all set.
And one other thing that has been a game-changer: cross-country ski pants for an outer layer, over wool or fleece leggings. XC ski pants are usually windproof in front and breathable in the back, with some water resistance, and none of the bulk of real snow pants.
posted by Maarika at 11:36 AM on September 25, 2023 [3 favorites]
I grew up with Sorel snow boots that made my socks fall off and were terrible for walking, then tried some Bogs in my 20s (more walkable, excellently waterproof, but not durable), then switched to Muck Boots (much more durable than Bogs). But for hiking and walking around in spring/fall/winter, nothing tops my Danner boots. Pair with some Darn Tough socks, and you’re all set.
And one other thing that has been a game-changer: cross-country ski pants for an outer layer, over wool or fleece leggings. XC ski pants are usually windproof in front and breathable in the back, with some water resistance, and none of the bulk of real snow pants.
posted by Maarika at 11:36 AM on September 25, 2023 [3 favorites]
You've gotten a lot of good advice above so I won't repeat all the layering stuff. I don't know how tall you are, but as a tall plus size lady I have given up on women's rain jackets and just buy men's. They are longer, better designed, have better pockets and if you size up enough, you can wear a heavy sweater under them. I live and walk in the PNW and the other tip I have for you is read the labels. If it says water resistant? Put it back. You want waterPROOF and that goes for hiking boots, pants, whatever. Water resistant is useless.
You really don't have to spend a fortune on all this, either. Get decent comfortable hiking boots first and spend your money there. Waterproof hiking boots are a game changer. Everything else, you can probably get cheap. If you're not planning on being out there hiking for hours or camping, backpacking, that sort of thing, you probably don't need to drop hundreds of dollars on, for example, Arcteryx. I buy at the thrift shop, Wal Mart, the horrible Big 5 Sporting Goods, Eddie Bauer because we have an outlet here. I buy by price and fit, not brand. I'm fine. I walk just about every day it's above freezing. I wear heavy leggings in the winter and lighter Eddie Bauer pants in the summer (they go up to 18 now!)
I have two rain coats - a thin one for spring and fall and a heavy warm one for winter. The thin one is a men's cheapie; it has lasted about five years, which is not too shabby! I used to have a cheap pair of men's rain pants and they were great for a while, but lost their waterproofing faster than I wanted. I might get another pair this year; I am debating. I have a decent warm women's rain jacket from Eddie Bauer but it's too short. The next one I buy will be from their men's department, not the women's. The longer the jacket, the better, because as someone upthread said, you might as well resign yourself to wet legs.
posted by mygothlaundry at 1:09 PM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
You really don't have to spend a fortune on all this, either. Get decent comfortable hiking boots first and spend your money there. Waterproof hiking boots are a game changer. Everything else, you can probably get cheap. If you're not planning on being out there hiking for hours or camping, backpacking, that sort of thing, you probably don't need to drop hundreds of dollars on, for example, Arcteryx. I buy at the thrift shop, Wal Mart, the horrible Big 5 Sporting Goods, Eddie Bauer because we have an outlet here. I buy by price and fit, not brand. I'm fine. I walk just about every day it's above freezing. I wear heavy leggings in the winter and lighter Eddie Bauer pants in the summer (they go up to 18 now!)
I have two rain coats - a thin one for spring and fall and a heavy warm one for winter. The thin one is a men's cheapie; it has lasted about five years, which is not too shabby! I used to have a cheap pair of men's rain pants and they were great for a while, but lost their waterproofing faster than I wanted. I might get another pair this year; I am debating. I have a decent warm women's rain jacket from Eddie Bauer but it's too short. The next one I buy will be from their men's department, not the women's. The longer the jacket, the better, because as someone upthread said, you might as well resign yourself to wet legs.
posted by mygothlaundry at 1:09 PM on September 25, 2023 [2 favorites]
I'm a Minnesotan who will cheerfully take a 30-minute walk in subzero weather, and the advice above is all very solid! When newcomers to my state ask for layering advice, my first instruction is to NEVER, EVER WEAR COTTON SOCKS. Keeping your feet warm is key!
Speaking of feet, my insulated, waterproof Oboz hiking boots are one of the best investments I've ever made. I'm heading into my sixth winter with them, and they're perfect as winter boots or hiking boots in chillier temps. But they're not SO warm that your feet roast if you wear them to Target or whatever. Highly recommend!
And for rain hoods: it's very rainy in MSP today so I wore my REI-brand rain jacket. The front of the hood must have some kind of stiff material inside it, because it has a little brim that kept my face 100% dry. Very happy with that purchase, too.
posted by leftover_scrabble_rack at 4:06 PM on September 25, 2023 [1 favorite]
Speaking of feet, my insulated, waterproof Oboz hiking boots are one of the best investments I've ever made. I'm heading into my sixth winter with them, and they're perfect as winter boots or hiking boots in chillier temps. But they're not SO warm that your feet roast if you wear them to Target or whatever. Highly recommend!
And for rain hoods: it's very rainy in MSP today so I wore my REI-brand rain jacket. The front of the hood must have some kind of stiff material inside it, because it has a little brim that kept my face 100% dry. Very happy with that purchase, too.
posted by leftover_scrabble_rack at 4:06 PM on September 25, 2023 [1 favorite]
For a rain jacket, I love my North Face Venture 2 - it has been discontinued but you may be able to find on resale sites or you could try the Antora which is the replacement version. Reviews mention a lot of what I appreciate about the Venture2. It is quite lightweight, moves easily, and the hood has a little brim that keep water out of my face. I size up so that I can layer underneath it - with a puffer vest and fleece jacket I can handle a lot of water and a pretty good amount of cold.
posted by tinymojo at 8:32 PM on September 25, 2023
posted by tinymojo at 8:32 PM on September 25, 2023
General note about cold and cool weather - I live in North Carolina so hardly the frozen tundra but I find that if the high is going to be around 50 or less I wear some long underwear (like cuddle duds) under my pants as a matter of routine. It makes me so much more comfortable indoors and out. I just buy whatever target sells. Layers are great in any cooler weather.
posted by jeoc at 10:07 AM on September 26, 2023
posted by jeoc at 10:07 AM on September 26, 2023
One more thought: I am team armpit vent for any coat, but especially raincoats. They are the best - unzip the vents when you are getting sweaty inside your coat, and zip them up when you’re cooling down. It makes a real difference. I’ve gotten armpit vent coats from North Face and REI.
posted by Maarika at 12:25 PM on September 26, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by Maarika at 12:25 PM on September 26, 2023 [2 favorites]
Yes, if you're going to be active in waterproof/breathable outerwear then pit zips are nice if you can find a shell that has them.
posted by Nerd of the North at 12:42 AM on September 27, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by Nerd of the North at 12:42 AM on September 27, 2023 [2 favorites]
I, too, am a lady; one who just spent five days backpacking in a whole lot of rain. I wore waterproof-ish hiking boots, work pants from Duluth, rain pants over the work pants when it was particularly wet, wicking undies, a synthetic shirt, a rain jacket with pit zips, and a hat with a brim. It looks like you can get the work pants in your size so long as you're okay with slim-cut legs.
I've used my Bean boots as hiking boots just fine, and they're waterproof, but after a few miles they get heavy.
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:50 AM on September 29, 2023
I've used my Bean boots as hiking boots just fine, and they're waterproof, but after a few miles they get heavy.
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:50 AM on September 29, 2023
If you do not already have a sock in your life, I like REI's merino wool hiking socks.
posted by sebastienbailard at 11:38 AM on September 29, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by sebastienbailard at 11:38 AM on September 29, 2023 [1 favorite]
I tried wearing a baseball cap under the hood of my rain jacket today. First time, and it was a lifesaver. Thanks to the OP for asking this question!
posted by Bella Donna at 3:02 AM on October 6, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by Bella Donna at 3:02 AM on October 6, 2023 [2 favorites]
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Leggings in a quick drying fabric are much more comfortable to wear when wet. Lululemon is the canonical example, but there are others in the fat lady athletic clothes sphere. These are good for three seasons. You can easily layer on rain pants for serious rain.
For some reason fat women are not supposed to require technical raincoats or rain pants, though, which makes them hard to buy. (I guess the fat shields us from the rain???) It’s getting better at your end of the size range. North Face has a decent assortment of plus. If you are apple shaped, you can consider a men’s XL or 2XL to improve your choices.
Do not underestimate the power of a hat. A simple baseball cap is great for drizzle. You can also wear it under your hood to help the hood hold its shape.
Merino wool socks are great. I’d suggest them for shirts but again this is an item hard to find in plus.
posted by shock muppet at 7:29 PM on September 24, 2023 [14 favorites]