¿Do you sound out what you type?
October 18, 2018 7:23 AM Subscribe
If you're a coder, writer or journalist, somebody whose main occupation is typing words onto a screen, do you sound out everything you type, either in your head or subvocally?
Or vocally, out loud? Do you use a funny voice? Do you make comments on what your typing?
Or vocally, out loud? Do you use a funny voice? Do you make comments on what your typing?
When I’m doing science writing, I almost always am doing so collaboratively. So I make comments to myself and others in the text. I almost always say things in my head once it’s getting serious, but not in the early draft stage as. At the very end, when it has to be finally polished to as good as it can get, I often read portions aloud to catch awkwardness.
For coding, I never pronounce the code in my head, but I do sort of talk myself through it eg, “I want this bit to get multiplied by that bit, and hmm where should I put the answer, how about in this thing I’ll make like so...”
posted by SaltySalticid at 7:30 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
For coding, I never pronounce the code in my head, but I do sort of talk myself through it eg, “I want this bit to get multiplied by that bit, and hmm where should I put the answer, how about in this thing I’ll make like so...”
posted by SaltySalticid at 7:30 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
Advertising copywriter (think Peggy from Mad Men) here. I basically never sound out words in my head as I'm typing, with the significant exception of scripts, especially voiceover and radio scripts. Then I usually retreat to a quiet spot and will read it out loud repeatedly until the rhythm sounds right.
I'm a weirdly visual writer, especially with film scripts, and for me my aim is always to capture the picture in my head, not the sound.
posted by nerdfish at 7:34 AM on October 18, 2018 [3 favorites]
I'm a weirdly visual writer, especially with film scripts, and for me my aim is always to capture the picture in my head, not the sound.
posted by nerdfish at 7:34 AM on October 18, 2018 [3 favorites]
I blog and write a billion emails. I sound words out in my head in a weird half spelling way, half spoken word way. So in my head, that first sentence sounded like:
I bee-ell-oh-gee and doubleyou-rite a bee-illion ee-em-ails...
posted by kimberussell at 7:38 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
I bee-ell-oh-gee and doubleyou-rite a bee-illion ee-em-ails...
posted by kimberussell at 7:38 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
Technical writer. I'll sound it out in my head if I'm doing something particularly tricky, or that just didn't "land" the first time I did it. If I say it out loud, then I always screw it up, because my typing and talking speeds are different.
posted by Etrigan at 7:38 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by Etrigan at 7:38 AM on October 18, 2018
I'm a software developer and I think I mostly sound things out in my head if they're for human consumption (i.e. this comment, emails, spec documents, bug write-ups), but I very rarely sound things out if they're for machine consumption (i.e. code). High-level pseudocode, though, where I'm writing down for myself the basic gist of what I want the code to do, I would probably talk through in my head, and if there's human-readable output of the code I would sound that out.
I think there are certain functions/methods that I use frequently that I *do* say in my head, like "console.log" or "include?" but I would never sound out, like, an "if" statement.
posted by mskyle at 7:51 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
I think there are certain functions/methods that I use frequently that I *do* say in my head, like "console.log" or "include?" but I would never sound out, like, an "if" statement.
posted by mskyle at 7:51 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
Writer of books and emails here. In my native language (English), I mostly don't. It would really interrupt the flow of my constant internal monologue/dialogue.
In other languages, I'm much more likely to, just because I'll often catch things that don't really work or are just plain wrong. In this case, it's usually a low murmur -- intelligible and audible mostly only to me. I don't use a funny voice (except my own) and I don't make it a commentary track for what I'm writing. It's the words and that's it.
posted by veggieboy at 7:53 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
In other languages, I'm much more likely to, just because I'll often catch things that don't really work or are just plain wrong. In this case, it's usually a low murmur -- intelligible and audible mostly only to me. I don't use a funny voice (except my own) and I don't make it a commentary track for what I'm writing. It's the words and that's it.
posted by veggieboy at 7:53 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
I don't notice myself doing it, but I must, because I make homophone typos constantly -- I type as if someone were dictating the words to me and I didn't know the meaning until the sentence was done. (That makes me sound insane. Constantly is an overstatement, but it does happen a fair amount.)
posted by LizardBreath at 8:02 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by LizardBreath at 8:02 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
None of those things, with the exception of sounding out, in my head, words I am struggling to spell.
posted by DarlingBri at 8:14 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by DarlingBri at 8:14 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
I've done all kinds of writing professionally (technical books, culture books about tech, technical writing, news reporting, op-ed, feature writing, marketing copy, etc.) and I type out the conversation I'm having in my head with my audience, is the best way I can put it.
When I was in eighth grade I took a standardized test that said I wrote at a third or fourth grade level. It filled me with a paralyzing dread of writing that was so bad my 12th grade English teacher allowed me to draw my final essay instead of writing it. (I illustrated the themes of Crime and Punishment in charcoal over twelve drawings, and that was deemed sufficient by Ms. Cartwright, who is either a living goddess or sits at the right hand of the Lord.)
When I got to college, I self-selected into the remedial composition class. After a week, the professor said, "I don't think you belong here." I explained patiently to her that it was a well understood fact, documented by the State of Indiana, that I couldn't write. She said, "you're the most articulate student in the class. Just write down how you'd talk." I took that advice pretty literally and married it to the also useful advice that you should know who your audience is before you sit down to write. So I started spinning up a virtual instance of a human somewhere in the target demographic and took dictation on the conversation. The next year I took first place in the Indiana Collegiate Press Association's best column category, so the advice worked.
When I'm programming (though it's been a while since I've sat down and coded more than a 15-minute one-off) I will often talk my way through the problem out loud when I get into trickier pieces of logic. Variables tend to be "little fellas," objects whose attributes I'm setting are usually "this box over here," ("so I'm gonna stuff this little fella in this box over here"), and I "holler over there" when I transform a variable with a function I've written.
posted by mph at 8:26 AM on October 18, 2018 [6 favorites]
When I was in eighth grade I took a standardized test that said I wrote at a third or fourth grade level. It filled me with a paralyzing dread of writing that was so bad my 12th grade English teacher allowed me to draw my final essay instead of writing it. (I illustrated the themes of Crime and Punishment in charcoal over twelve drawings, and that was deemed sufficient by Ms. Cartwright, who is either a living goddess or sits at the right hand of the Lord.)
When I got to college, I self-selected into the remedial composition class. After a week, the professor said, "I don't think you belong here." I explained patiently to her that it was a well understood fact, documented by the State of Indiana, that I couldn't write. She said, "you're the most articulate student in the class. Just write down how you'd talk." I took that advice pretty literally and married it to the also useful advice that you should know who your audience is before you sit down to write. So I started spinning up a virtual instance of a human somewhere in the target demographic and took dictation on the conversation. The next year I took first place in the Indiana Collegiate Press Association's best column category, so the advice worked.
When I'm programming (though it's been a while since I've sat down and coded more than a 15-minute one-off) I will often talk my way through the problem out loud when I get into trickier pieces of logic. Variables tend to be "little fellas," objects whose attributes I'm setting are usually "this box over here," ("so I'm gonna stuff this little fella in this box over here"), and I "holler over there" when I transform a variable with a function I've written.
posted by mph at 8:26 AM on October 18, 2018 [6 favorites]
I do some degree of typesetting at work but don't do any vocalization or subvocal stuff. However, when illustrating, certain shapes or actions get sound effects in my head. Embiggening an ellipse or what have you get their own growing orb type sounds.
posted by GoblinHoney at 8:34 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by GoblinHoney at 8:34 AM on October 18, 2018
Nope, never.
posted by thegreatfleecircus at 8:35 AM on October 18, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by thegreatfleecircus at 8:35 AM on October 18, 2018 [4 favorites]
Sysadmin here - I think the words in my phonological loop as / just before I type things. As I only type ~60 wpm and my phonological loop seems to easily run 2-4 times that, obviously I have to think it slowly and it feels stilted. But I think words, not sylables.
When I'm doing punctuation for coding, I'll think "left paren, hash, dollar, bang, right brace" if I were to type "( # $ ! ]" . Sometimes I'll notice my phonological loop contains logic, EG "bash expand zero through 14 common width" if I were to type {00..14} instead of "left bracket, zero zero through fourteen, right bracket" .
I have a lot of IP's memorized, and quite often for instance I might notice "lyssa's private IP" in my phonological loop will result in "192.168.13.10" getting typed for instance. If it's not an IP I know that I'm typing, I'll think "one seventy two dot eighteen dot twenty three dot one" to type "172.18.23.1" . I definitely think the dot of the ip addresses.
When I'm typing English (like now), I don't think "comma" before typing a comma, or any punctuation.
I don't sepecifically sound anything out, occasionally I'll think the spelling rules (e.g. "receive, i before e except after c" ) while typing something.
I rarely subvocalize - exceptions might be if I'm typing seomthing and extremely emotional - back in the days when I might animatedly discuss with people who were wrong on the internet. I've been around people that I've noticed regularly subvocalize while typing. They're almost uniformly slow (defined by me as less than 30 wpm) typists and it drives me insane to watch slow typists regardless of their methods. I work in an open office plan, and don't think that I could sit and see a hunt and peck typer in my peripheral vision and not need to move desks.
posted by nobeagle at 8:36 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
When I'm doing punctuation for coding, I'll think "left paren, hash, dollar, bang, right brace" if I were to type "( # $ ! ]" . Sometimes I'll notice my phonological loop contains logic, EG "bash expand zero through 14 common width" if I were to type {00..14} instead of "left bracket, zero zero through fourteen, right bracket" .
I have a lot of IP's memorized, and quite often for instance I might notice "lyssa's private IP" in my phonological loop will result in "192.168.13.10" getting typed for instance. If it's not an IP I know that I'm typing, I'll think "one seventy two dot eighteen dot twenty three dot one" to type "172.18.23.1" . I definitely think the dot of the ip addresses.
When I'm typing English (like now), I don't think "comma" before typing a comma, or any punctuation.
I don't sepecifically sound anything out, occasionally I'll think the spelling rules (e.g. "receive, i before e except after c" ) while typing something.
I rarely subvocalize - exceptions might be if I'm typing seomthing and extremely emotional - back in the days when I might animatedly discuss with people who were wrong on the internet. I've been around people that I've noticed regularly subvocalize while typing. They're almost uniformly slow (defined by me as less than 30 wpm) typists and it drives me insane to watch slow typists regardless of their methods. I work in an open office plan, and don't think that I could sit and see a hunt and peck typer in my peripheral vision and not need to move desks.
posted by nobeagle at 8:36 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
Writer here trained in broadcast journalism - yes a thousand times yes. I talk as a write. And then I read what I have written out loud.
posted by Lescha at 8:44 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by Lescha at 8:44 AM on October 18, 2018
Now that I’m thinking about it I’m pretty sure yes.
posted by forkisbetter at 9:02 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by forkisbetter at 9:02 AM on October 18, 2018
Journalist and audio person here. Yup, I sound out everything that I write.
posted by melodykramer at 9:08 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by melodykramer at 9:08 AM on October 18, 2018
For a first draft, never. I read aloud when I revise and edit, but that is part of the process, not anything involuntary or unconscious.
posted by betweenthebars at 9:12 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by betweenthebars at 9:12 AM on October 18, 2018
I sometimes read finished stories out loud to myself to slow myself down and check for errors (I work at home so this is fine). But never when I'm in the process of writing.
posted by pinochiette at 9:28 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by pinochiette at 9:28 AM on October 18, 2018
I write both fiction and corporate content and I only ever sound stuff out in my head, never out loud. I only deliberately/consciously do this if something is clunky or not working.
This is partly because my inner ear/voice when reading in my head is very sensitive and fluent, much more so than my actual voice is when reading aloud.
I find most of my thinking/writing happens between brain and fingers/keyboard, without a lot of involvement from my conscious word articulation or speech functions. I will sometimes form a sentence in my head before writing, but not always.
This is also very much the way I edit - I have to be able to manipulate the text by hand when I'm doing it; I find it much harder to read something and then say out loud how I would recommend changing it.
My brain is much better at processing text than speech overall. I can retain information I read far better than information I hear, and I think my approach to writing and editing is significantly informed by how strongly this feels hardwired for me.
posted by terretu at 9:29 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
This is partly because my inner ear/voice when reading in my head is very sensitive and fluent, much more so than my actual voice is when reading aloud.
I find most of my thinking/writing happens between brain and fingers/keyboard, without a lot of involvement from my conscious word articulation or speech functions. I will sometimes form a sentence in my head before writing, but not always.
This is also very much the way I edit - I have to be able to manipulate the text by hand when I'm doing it; I find it much harder to read something and then say out loud how I would recommend changing it.
My brain is much better at processing text than speech overall. I can retain information I read far better than information I hear, and I think my approach to writing and editing is significantly informed by how strongly this feels hardwired for me.
posted by terretu at 9:29 AM on October 18, 2018 [2 favorites]
Writer/editor: I will only sound out those things that I know I have trouble spelling. I will sometimes read things out loud later, to check rhythm--especially if I'm working on something actually intended to be read aloud--but that's not the same as "sounding out" to me (I think of "sounding out" as a kind of deliberate and slow phonetic breakdown thing that happens on the level of the individual word, not just reading out loud more generally).
I will mutter to myself sometimes when I'm editing ("Oh FFS..."), but otherwise no explicit commentary on what I'm working on. I do commentary/funny voices sometimes when I'm doing physical chores, but not when I'm writing.
posted by Fish Sauce at 9:29 AM on October 18, 2018
I will mutter to myself sometimes when I'm editing ("Oh FFS..."), but otherwise no explicit commentary on what I'm working on. I do commentary/funny voices sometimes when I'm doing physical chores, but not when I'm writing.
posted by Fish Sauce at 9:29 AM on October 18, 2018
Just a data point, but no, never. I often type some things without thinking about them at all. Even sometimes talking to someone while typing.
posted by humboldt32 at 9:43 AM on October 18, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by humboldt32 at 9:43 AM on October 18, 2018 [4 favorites]
If I say aloud a word in a sentence I am in the process of typing, when I re-read the text I've typed I find I've left that particular word out about 90% of the time.
posted by jamjam at 9:58 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by jamjam at 9:58 AM on October 18, 2018
I believe I do, but unconsciously. I can say, however, that when I am typing while sleepy, I start typing homonyms (same sound, different spelling/meaning) of words I intend to type. It seems that some part of my brain is thinking in an auditory sense as I type.
posted by Sunburnt at 10:01 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Sunburnt at 10:01 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
What an interesting question. I am sure that I do for prose; I believe that I don’t for code, but am not at all sure.
posted by eirias at 10:15 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by eirias at 10:15 AM on October 18, 2018
If I'm reviewing code, then I clearly have an active awareness that
posted by tapesonthefloor at 10:56 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
var sounds like var and void sounds like void, but when I'm actively coding? It's all symbolic. It's all building blocks. The words are just unique shapes.posted by tapesonthefloor at 10:56 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
Software developer, I always subvocalize everything word-like, and people using variable names that can't be easily pronounced make me crazy. I don't normally do this for braces/brackets/parens, though I do tend to read things for example as "object dot method".
posted by Sequence at 11:08 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Sequence at 11:08 AM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
Computer programmer who also sometimes writes. I never do this.
posted by yomimono at 11:27 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by yomimono at 11:27 AM on October 18, 2018
(Welp. I probably should've sounded that one out.)
posted by tapesonthefloor at 11:28 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by tapesonthefloor at 11:28 AM on October 18, 2018
I write for a living. I never sound out words unless I’ve gotten confused about the spelling. When I am editing a final draft, I do something like reading aloud, except I do it in my head. I guess, thinking about it, when I read normally, I read word groups rather than individual words and don’t hear the individual words at all. When I “read aloud in my head” I hear each individual word but I don’t say it out loud or even subvocalise.
posted by colfax at 11:28 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by colfax at 11:28 AM on October 18, 2018
Yes. Homophones are a frequent typo for me. I know the difference if I'm in editing mode, but when I'm typing, the words I'm hearing in my head bypass my brain and go right into my fingers.
posted by willnot at 11:43 AM on October 18, 2018
posted by willnot at 11:43 AM on October 18, 2018
Ex-typesetter here, which means I was typing to order, not composing it myself. No vocalizations of any kind and I usually would slip into the "typesetter's trance" where the conscious is short-circuited and the type seems to go directly from the eye to the finger. Occasionally, as someone upthread said, I could talk to someone while still typing away (seems to disconcert a lot of folk). When being a secretary, I'm often editing as I go, so I may be muttering some ("that doesn't seem right") but it's usually not the actual text but about it. And it's slower than when typesetting in a trance.
posted by MovableBookLady at 12:16 PM on October 18, 2018
posted by MovableBookLady at 12:16 PM on October 18, 2018
I can talk really, really fast. When we were little kids my sister and I spoke so rapidly that we were unintelligible outside of the family. But I can type faster than I can speak. No way I can keep up with my fingers using my mouth. My typing speed is halfway between my reading speed and my talking speed.
But I will reread my own writing at the speed of reading out loud and then edit it.
posted by Jane the Brown at 12:50 PM on October 18, 2018
But I will reread my own writing at the speed of reading out loud and then edit it.
posted by Jane the Brown at 12:50 PM on October 18, 2018
Willnot corrected me-- it's homophones I type when sleepy, not homonyms.
posted by Sunburnt at 1:30 PM on October 18, 2018
posted by Sunburnt at 1:30 PM on October 18, 2018
When writing plays and script-style fanfic, I definitely hear all the different the voices in my head, and I just scramble to keep up with what they're saying and transcribe it. As a journalist I also hear it all but much more quietly, and I think probably in my own voice.
Weirdly, I often do the reverse, too: I touch type, and my fingers will shadow-type words or phrases from spoken conversations in the air, especially the last few words as they're hanging at the end of a conversation (and repetitively for some time afterwards). Not so much that anyone else would really notice my fingers moving, but definitely enough for me to feel it clearly.
posted by penguin pie at 3:05 PM on October 18, 2018
Weirdly, I often do the reverse, too: I touch type, and my fingers will shadow-type words or phrases from spoken conversations in the air, especially the last few words as they're hanging at the end of a conversation (and repetitively for some time afterwards). Not so much that anyone else would really notice my fingers moving, but definitely enough for me to feel it clearly.
posted by penguin pie at 3:05 PM on October 18, 2018
i mostly just think the words and they come out my fingers and it's better almost if i don't look at the keyboard or think about punctuation or capitalization.
Coding wise, I mostly do Perl so ... I don't really have many words to think about in the first place.
Writing wise it all depends on who's going to be reading it. Like if it's Standard Operating Procedures for large machines in a factory to be written for an 8th grade level with fixed terminology then I think more and say it to make sure it sounds right. If it's something work-ish that's likely or certainly going outside of my group I'm more careful and more likely to almost say it out loud or some sort of subvocalizaton. For those messages that stay in group, it goes more like the first of this post but more terse and broken up because of all of the numbers and tech stuff and they've known me for ages.
So coding, probably not. Writing it all depends.
posted by zengargoyle at 5:14 PM on October 18, 2018
Coding wise, I mostly do Perl so ... I don't really have many words to think about in the first place.
Writing wise it all depends on who's going to be reading it. Like if it's Standard Operating Procedures for large machines in a factory to be written for an 8th grade level with fixed terminology then I think more and say it to make sure it sounds right. If it's something work-ish that's likely or certainly going outside of my group I'm more careful and more likely to almost say it out loud or some sort of subvocalizaton. For those messages that stay in group, it goes more like the first of this post but more terse and broken up because of all of the numbers and tech stuff and they've known me for ages.
So coding, probably not. Writing it all depends.
posted by zengargoyle at 5:14 PM on October 18, 2018
Best answer: I'm a developer. Mostly I just say, "what the fuck!" a lot.
Out loud and in my head.
posted by bendy at 7:32 PM on October 18, 2018
Out loud and in my head.
posted by bendy at 7:32 PM on October 18, 2018
Another developer. I generally don't subvocalize, except when I'm ruminating on name choices for something (and the sound is part of it). I found needing to vocalize those things during pairing a bit jarring, actually.
On a related note -- something that comes up with some languages more than others, but I particularly associate with the APL family, is an expression which combines a couple concepts but is read as a unit, at a sub-verbal level. For example, I don't recognize (k syntax)
posted by silentbicycle at 8:43 PM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
On a related note -- something that comes up with some languages more than others, but I particularly associate with the APL family, is an expression which combines a couple concepts but is read as a unit, at a sub-verbal level. For example, I don't recognize (k syntax)
x[&x]as "x sliced by where-x", it's just
x[&x], and the verbalization gets in the way. For more along those lines, you might be interested in Ken Iverson's Turing Award Lecture, Notation as a Tool of Thought.
posted by silentbicycle at 8:43 PM on October 18, 2018 [1 favorite]
I think the words but not sure I subvocalize. I make enough mistakes (not typos, but typing a completely different word/sentence) that I think I have two parallel processes going on in my head sometimes.
posted by ahundredjarsofsky at 9:26 PM on October 18, 2018
posted by ahundredjarsofsky at 9:26 PM on October 18, 2018
I write all the time. I didn't think that I "heard" the words in my head as I type them, but now that you've asked the question I definitely do! However it does seem kind of familiar, so it must be a subconscious thing that I've been doing for ages anyway. I do not say things out loud unless I know they will probably be read aloud or I want to check how it scans.
My theory is that it's related to what is going on when I read, which is absolutely hearing things in my head (even though I type faster than I speak and I read far, far faster). However it all pretty much sounds like my voice, or variations thereof - even if I am reading something with dialogue between aliens or people who are very different from me and would for sure have different voices to mine, it's kind of like me reading a book aloud. Only I'm not, and it happens much faster than I would actually be able to read the book aloud. However I am definitely predisposed towards the written word; I have a very difficult time following verbal instructions or remembering information I am told unless I write it down as the other person is speaking to me. I am horrible at remembering unfamiliar names if I only hear them and do not see them written down (by unfamiliar, I mean culturally/ethnically unfamiliar; so Southeast Asian or many Indian names are hard, but Anglo, French, Spanish, Greek, Japanese names are usually fine because I am more familiar with those cultures). And if someone spells their name aloud to me - it is like it is the first time I am hearing the letters of the alphabet or something, my brain just doesn't process right.
posted by Athanassiel at 10:11 PM on October 18, 2018
My theory is that it's related to what is going on when I read, which is absolutely hearing things in my head (even though I type faster than I speak and I read far, far faster). However it all pretty much sounds like my voice, or variations thereof - even if I am reading something with dialogue between aliens or people who are very different from me and would for sure have different voices to mine, it's kind of like me reading a book aloud. Only I'm not, and it happens much faster than I would actually be able to read the book aloud. However I am definitely predisposed towards the written word; I have a very difficult time following verbal instructions or remembering information I am told unless I write it down as the other person is speaking to me. I am horrible at remembering unfamiliar names if I only hear them and do not see them written down (by unfamiliar, I mean culturally/ethnically unfamiliar; so Southeast Asian or many Indian names are hard, but Anglo, French, Spanish, Greek, Japanese names are usually fine because I am more familiar with those cultures). And if someone spells their name aloud to me - it is like it is the first time I am hearing the letters of the alphabet or something, my brain just doesn't process right.
posted by Athanassiel at 10:11 PM on October 18, 2018
I sound out emails or academic writing in my head but not computer programming.
posted by lollusc at 3:40 AM on October 19, 2018
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Otherwise, (like it's happening now), I just hear my own voice in my head as I type. I don't usually make comments on what I'm typing because the voice is telling me what to type. Comments happen after I finish typing and go for a read through.
posted by astapasta24 at 7:25 AM on October 18, 2018