What is that "and" character called?
November 29, 2005 5:53 PM Subscribe
What do they call that "and" character that looks like a reversed 3 and where did it come from?
It looks like a reversed 3 with lines coming above and below it. I don't know if I'm explaining it right, but I see people drawing that "and" character more often than I see ampersands. What's the origin of that? What's it called?
It looks like a reversed 3 with lines coming above and below it. I don't know if I'm explaining it right, but I see people drawing that "and" character more often than I see ampersands. What's the origin of that? What's it called?
I've known them as "The Poorman's Ampersand" or "The Lazy And"
posted by TwelveTwo at 5:58 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by TwelveTwo at 5:58 PM on November 29, 2005
Believe it or not, that is an ampersand. That's just how some people draw one. Some fonts (example) have odd-looking ampersands, too.
posted by cerebus19 at 6:01 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by cerebus19 at 6:01 PM on November 29, 2005
Response by poster: That makes sense. I though there might have been a special meaning/usage to it, but it's just another form of the ampersand. That was quick.
posted by mkn at 6:01 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by mkn at 6:01 PM on November 29, 2005
Since an ampersand is a stylized "Et" the "reversed 3" is actually a stylized "E."
posted by grouse at 6:08 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by grouse at 6:08 PM on November 29, 2005
Both the symbol you're describing and the run-of-the-mill ampersand are both evolved ligatures for the Latin "Et".
(It's why you sometimes see "etc." written as "&c.")
posted by Robot Johnny at 6:09 PM on November 29, 2005
(It's why you sometimes see "etc." written as "&c.")
posted by Robot Johnny at 6:09 PM on November 29, 2005
It's the 'secretary form' of the ampersand, associated with Elizabethan 'secretary hand'. You'll see variants on the 'curly e with slash' (bottom image, bottom right).
posted by holgate at 6:14 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by holgate at 6:14 PM on November 29, 2005
cerebus19's second link is how I write "and" longhand. I've been doing it forever---I don't know where I picked it up. Elementary school, I think.
posted by bonehead at 6:44 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by bonehead at 6:44 PM on November 29, 2005
Best answer: Adobe's history of the Ampersand is nice.
posted by AmbroseChapel at 6:58 PM on November 29, 2005
posted by AmbroseChapel at 6:58 PM on November 29, 2005
Ampersand: Symbol “&” — a scribal abbreviation for “and”. There are many forms and styles. All of them are derived from the Latin word et. The name originates from the expression “and per se and”. One of the first cases of usage was found in Roman manuscript of 75 AD.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 9:48 PM on November 29, 2005
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posted by bunglin jones at 5:58 PM on November 29, 2005