"Science is fundamentally flawed"
January 4, 2012 6:00 PM Subscribe
Do Godel's theorems refute all of science and logic?
posted by Peregrin5 to science & nature (30 answers total) 16 users marked this as a favorite
I was speaking to a theist today, and he stated:
Kurt Godel proved nearly 100 years ago that there are some true statements that cannot be logically i.e. mathematically, scientifically true.
He also proved that there is no way to no how many true statements cannot be proved true.
This means science is fundamentally flawed and incapable of finding truth.
Basically I took it to mean that he was arguing that Kurt Godel's theorems refute the viability of science. This is not the first time that I've encountered this argument.
I've researched it a bit in the past, and not being an avid logician (though I am rather proud of my ability in terms of using logic) or a mathematician, I'm afraid that a lot of the explanation in my research materials were lost on me.
So basically, what I'm asking is, can someone put it into laymen's terms for me, what his 'Theorem of Incompleteness' really means (because I assume that if it really did refute the application of science, the majority of the modern world wouldn't be bothering itself so much with it daily), and if my opponent is really using it in the correct context? Can you suggest counterarguments to this?
Note, I understand that science does not endeavor to 'find truth' whatever that means.
As Dr. Jones so succinctly put it: " If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall."