Help me diagram a football play
June 29, 2010 4:54 PM Subscribe
Help me design an authentic American Football play where a linebacker gets blindsided by a trap block.
I am currently writing a football commercial starring an NFL outside linebacker who plays in a 4-3 defense. I need to diagram a play where said linebacker gets blindsided attempting to stop the run. I was thinking that it should be a trap play where the LB gets nailed by a pulling guard. Something like this but showing the entire offensive and defense alignments and who is blocking whom.
The company is very picky about football being represented realistically. It also shouldn't be too complex visually and should resemble something you would see in high school football.
If anyone has some suggestions and wants to help me diagram something tonight or tomorrow pm me or post a link to your diagram here.
I am currently writing a football commercial starring an NFL outside linebacker who plays in a 4-3 defense. I need to diagram a play where said linebacker gets blindsided attempting to stop the run. I was thinking that it should be a trap play where the LB gets nailed by a pulling guard. Something like this but showing the entire offensive and defense alignments and who is blocking whom.
The company is very picky about football being represented realistically. It also shouldn't be too complex visually and should resemble something you would see in high school football.
If anyone has some suggestions and wants to help me diagram something tonight or tomorrow pm me or post a link to your diagram here.
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The "Counter trey" is a pretty famous play with pulling O-linemen. You could draw something like this, slightly modified.
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:01 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:01 PM on June 29, 2010
Response by poster: The "Counter trey" is a pretty famous play with pulling O-linemen.
In that diagram the pulling guard is going after the Will linebacker, correct? The DE is over the TE and the Sam is a 9 technique? And the fullback heading upfield looking to block a safety?
posted by nathancaswell at 5:08 PM on June 29, 2010
In that diagram the pulling guard is going after the Will linebacker, correct? The DE is over the TE and the Sam is a 9 technique? And the fullback heading upfield looking to block a safety?
posted by nathancaswell at 5:08 PM on June 29, 2010
Well the pulling guard is going after the guy on the end of the line, who could either be a D-lineman or a linebacker up on the line. That's why I thought you might want to modify it a little to show a strict 4-3.
You also might be able to find something better by Google-imaging "counter trey." It's kind of hard to tell what position the defenders are meant to be when they're all represented by the same symbol.
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:13 PM on June 29, 2010
You also might be able to find something better by Google-imaging "counter trey." It's kind of hard to tell what position the defenders are meant to be when they're all represented by the same symbol.
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:13 PM on June 29, 2010
This one, while confusing, seems to show two pulling linemen going into the second level of the defense to get the linebacker.
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:18 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:18 PM on June 29, 2010
(Actually that is the same image, just cropped. Sorry)
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:20 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:20 PM on June 29, 2010
Response by poster: That's a good option, thanks.
If anyone has other suggestions keep them coming, I think the best thing will be to give them several options and wow them with my football knowledge.
posted by nathancaswell at 5:20 PM on June 29, 2010
If anyone has other suggestions keep them coming, I think the best thing will be to give them several options and wow them with my football knowledge.
posted by nathancaswell at 5:20 PM on June 29, 2010
Considering that is is for a visual presentation, you want something that looks extreme and almost unfair. I recommend a sweep play with the strong side receiver or a slot back performing a crack back block. The play is moving right, except for one guy in full headhunting mode, going the other way, looking to DESTROY someone looking the other way.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 5:54 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 5:54 PM on June 29, 2010
you aren't going to blindside an OLB with a pulling guard if its really blind side you mean. More likely to do it by motioning a back and having him crackback on the OLB. Or a flanker in the slot. Think about the Angles
The more traditional "blindside" trap block usually happens on inside counter plays where the LB overpenetrates because he appears to be unblocked and then he gets cleaned out but the offside guard or tackle. But they don't really do that in the NFL because even with the counter action from the backs the linebackers are too fast and get to the hole before the guard. Otherwise all the pulling is just an issue of getting more blocking to the point of attack and getting a lineman on a backer, rather than using trickery to get an open shot on someone.
posted by JPD at 5:56 PM on June 29, 2010
The more traditional "blindside" trap block usually happens on inside counter plays where the LB overpenetrates because he appears to be unblocked and then he gets cleaned out but the offside guard or tackle. But they don't really do that in the NFL because even with the counter action from the backs the linebackers are too fast and get to the hole before the guard. Otherwise all the pulling is just an issue of getting more blocking to the point of attack and getting a lineman on a backer, rather than using trickery to get an open shot on someone.
posted by JPD at 5:56 PM on June 29, 2010
The WR crackback block on the OLB with an offense running the veer is VICIOUS. I just sent him a diagram with the very play you mention CPB.
posted by Senator at 5:58 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by Senator at 5:58 PM on June 29, 2010
Response by poster: Considering that is is for a visual presentation
The reason I thought guard was because you'd be able to see him coming across the center as you shot the handoff. Though WR crackback blocks score points cause this guy plays in the same division as Hines Ward.
posted by nathancaswell at 6:07 PM on June 29, 2010
The reason I thought guard was because you'd be able to see him coming across the center as you shot the handoff. Though WR crackback blocks score points cause this guy plays in the same division as Hines Ward.
posted by nathancaswell at 6:07 PM on June 29, 2010
Check out the movie The Program. About 2/3 of the way through the movie, there's a scene where the flashy linebacker character nearly gets killed with a crack back. I think it's a tight end doing it to him. The scene is shot well - you understand where everyone is in space. A good compare/contrast.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 6:12 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 6:12 PM on June 29, 2010
Response by poster: These are all great, thanks.
For clarification it doesn't have to be a true "blindside", I just want something dramatic with a guy coming from an angle rather than head on. And it can be something that would work in HS but not in the NFL (like the action JPB mentioned). I'll check out The Program, other suggestions on good examples of how people have shot football welcome.
posted by nathancaswell at 6:32 PM on June 29, 2010
For clarification it doesn't have to be a true "blindside", I just want something dramatic with a guy coming from an angle rather than head on. And it can be something that would work in HS but not in the NFL (like the action JPB mentioned). I'll check out The Program, other suggestions on good examples of how people have shot football welcome.
posted by nathancaswell at 6:32 PM on June 29, 2010
Not sure what I did, but click the little yellow arrow above.
posted by Senator at 6:40 PM on June 29, 2010
posted by Senator at 6:40 PM on June 29, 2010
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