70's and 80's songs to play in a business.
August 18, 2008 3:15 PM Subscribe
What are some good 70's and 80's songs suitable for playing in a pharmacy?
My father owns a family pharmacy and we have an iPod with nice 70's and 80's songs set to play for the customers. Can you tell me some that I can add to the playlist? Remember nice calm easy listening ones are best, and no dirty or bad songs about dying etc.. To get an idea of some of the songs I have here's a link to the playlist so far.
Specific songs are great, but I will also take artists. Try not to give duplicates. If 10 people give 10 songs that's 100 new songs! Thanks!
Response by poster: yes i buy the songs from iTunes so I pay for them.. Does any one have actual songs?
posted by ptsampras14 at 3:34 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by ptsampras14 at 3:34 PM on August 18, 2008
The Eagles: Take it Easy, One of These Nights
Paul McCartney and Wings: Goodnight Tonight, Silly Love Songs
Fleetwood Mac: Don't Stop, As Long As You Follow
Steely Dan: Rikki Don't Lose that Number, Reeling in the Years
You may have Andy, but you also need Barry, Robin, and Maurice.
posted by gnomeloaf at 3:35 PM on August 18, 2008
Paul McCartney and Wings: Goodnight Tonight, Silly Love Songs
Fleetwood Mac: Don't Stop, As Long As You Follow
Steely Dan: Rikki Don't Lose that Number, Reeling in the Years
You may have Andy, but you also need Barry, Robin, and Maurice.
posted by gnomeloaf at 3:35 PM on August 18, 2008
Another small tip: Watch Amazon's mp3 download album daily deals -- they sometimes play directly to the genre(s) you're looking for, and are usually $4 or less.
posted by gnomeloaf at 3:37 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by gnomeloaf at 3:37 PM on August 18, 2008
If you actually read box's link, you don't pay for them for this use. Itunes only gives you the right to entertain yourself, not your customers. Yes, you can get busted for it. I disagree with the practice, but that's the reality-sorry.
posted by piedmont at 3:38 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by piedmont at 3:38 PM on August 18, 2008
Yes, unfortunately...
4. I bought the record or sheet music. Why do I need permission to perform the music?
Copyright owners enjoy a number of different rights including performance rights, print rights and recording rights. Rental or purchase of sheet music or the purchase of a record does not authorize its public performance.
posted by R. Mutt at 3:42 PM on August 18, 2008
4. I bought the record or sheet music. Why do I need permission to perform the music?
Copyright owners enjoy a number of different rights including performance rights, print rights and recording rights. Rental or purchase of sheet music or the purchase of a record does not authorize its public performance.
posted by R. Mutt at 3:42 PM on August 18, 2008
Paying for the physical media and paying for performance rights are two different things. If you're not paying royalties on the performances, you (by which I mean, your father's business) are vulnerable to a civil lawsuit for copyright infringement.
To quote the FAQ I linked to:
4. I bought the record or sheet music. Why do I need permission to perform the music?
Copyright owners enjoy a number of different rights including performance rights, print rights and recording rights. Rental or purchase of sheet music or the purchase of a record does not authorize its public performance.
8. I'm interested in playing music in my restaurant or other business. I know that I need permission for live performances. Do I need permission if I am using only CD's, records, tapes, radio or TV?
Yes, you will need permission to play records or tapes in your establishment. Permission for radio and television transmissions in your business is not needed if the performance is by means of public communication of TV or radio transmissions by eating, drinking, retail or certain other establishments of a certain size which use a limited number of speakers or TVs, and if the reception is not further transmitted (for example, from one room to another) from the place in which it is received, and there is no admission charge. Your local ASCAP licensing manager can discuss your needs and advise how ASCAP can help you.
posted by box at 3:42 PM on August 18, 2008
To quote the FAQ I linked to:
4. I bought the record or sheet music. Why do I need permission to perform the music?
Copyright owners enjoy a number of different rights including performance rights, print rights and recording rights. Rental or purchase of sheet music or the purchase of a record does not authorize its public performance.
8. I'm interested in playing music in my restaurant or other business. I know that I need permission for live performances. Do I need permission if I am using only CD's, records, tapes, radio or TV?
Yes, you will need permission to play records or tapes in your establishment. Permission for radio and television transmissions in your business is not needed if the performance is by means of public communication of TV or radio transmissions by eating, drinking, retail or certain other establishments of a certain size which use a limited number of speakers or TVs, and if the reception is not further transmitted (for example, from one room to another) from the place in which it is received, and there is no admission charge. Your local ASCAP licensing manager can discuss your needs and advise how ASCAP can help you.
posted by box at 3:42 PM on August 18, 2008
Yes, you can get busted for it.
Yep. As discussed previously (e.g. "ASCAP have been stirring a commotion by cracking down on nightclubs, bars, and even coffee shops throughout the country...; "ASCAP nearly put a friend out of business. He co-owned and self-managed a local bar").
posted by ericb at 3:43 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
Yep. As discussed previously (e.g. "ASCAP have been stirring a commotion by cracking down on nightclubs, bars, and even coffee shops throughout the country...; "ASCAP nearly put a friend out of business. He co-owned and self-managed a local bar").
posted by ericb at 3:43 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
I heart the '80s:
Spandau Ballet: "True" and "Chant No. 9"
Alphaville: "Big in Japan" and "Forever Young"
Men Without Hats: "Safety Dance" and "Pop Goes the World"
Naked Eyes: "There's Always Something There to Remind Me" and "Promises Promises"
Freur - "Doot Doot"
Cyndi Lauper - "Time After Time" and "True Colors"
Check the Living in Oblivion series out--not all songs will be appropriate but there are some great one-hit wonders in there.
posted by faunafrailty at 3:48 PM on August 18, 2008
Spandau Ballet: "True" and "Chant No. 9"
Alphaville: "Big in Japan" and "Forever Young"
Men Without Hats: "Safety Dance" and "Pop Goes the World"
Naked Eyes: "There's Always Something There to Remind Me" and "Promises Promises"
Freur - "Doot Doot"
Cyndi Lauper - "Time After Time" and "True Colors"
Check the Living in Oblivion series out--not all songs will be appropriate but there are some great one-hit wonders in there.
posted by faunafrailty at 3:48 PM on August 18, 2008
n'thing piedmont's advice and bzzting dumsnill's. ASCAP, BMI and their ilk are notorious for tracking down unauthorized performances. They don't rely on the police to 'police' this issue. They have a private army of 'enforcement officers' that wander the country going into stores of every type and size, and if they hear music of any kind, they note it down. Then a sales rep calls up the store and reminds them of the law, and if they don't pay, the next visit will be from a lawyer who will eat you alive.
Is not paying the license fee really worth your dad going out of business?
posted by nomisxid at 3:55 PM on August 18, 2008
Is not paying the license fee really worth your dad going out of business?
posted by nomisxid at 3:55 PM on August 18, 2008
There are businesses that make custom playlists which are uploaded to iPods that are then rented to small businesses. These firms -- such as Activaire -- have licenses for all music they provide to the establishments (such as "restaurants, nightspots, clothing boutiques and hair salons.").
posted by ericb at 3:58 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by ericb at 3:58 PM on August 18, 2008
Best answer: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and irrelevant. None of the copyright advice here answers the question and most of it is dead wrong. ASCAP and BMI almost certainly can't collect royalties in this case because of what's called the "Home-Style" exemption. It's complicated and ill understood and please don't take any advice from strangers on the Internet about it. IAAL (who has written on and litigated this particular exemption--one of the few lawyers in the country who has), but IANYL. Ignore the legal advice in this thread and pay attention only to the music advice you asked for. If you get nervous see a lawyer and ask him about 17 USC Sec. 110(5).
posted by The Bellman at 4:02 PM on August 18, 2008 [9 favorites]
posted by The Bellman at 4:02 PM on August 18, 2008 [9 favorites]
Best answer: And for songs, I'd say
* America ( "Horse With No Name", "Sister Golden Hair", "Tin Man",...)
* The Carpenters are a classic of 70's easy listening ("We've Only Just Begun", "Sing", "Top Of The World"
* Captain & Tennille (sp) ("Love Will Keep Us Together")
* Supertramp ( "Dreamer", "The Logical Song", "Give A Little Bit" )
* Cat Stevens ("If You Want To Sing Out", "Moonshadow")
* Nick Drake ("Pink Moon")
* Earth, Wind, & Fire ("September")
* Paul Simon ("Kodachrome", "Take Me To The Mardi Gras")
* Randy Newman
* The B-52's
* Eurythmics ("Sweet Dreams")
* 10,000 Maniacs ("Trouble Me")
* Elvis Costello
* Dream Academy ("Life In A Northern Town")
* Daryl Hall ("Wasn't Born Yesterday", "Dreamtime")
posted by nomisxid at 4:14 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
* America ( "Horse With No Name", "Sister Golden Hair", "Tin Man",...)
* The Carpenters are a classic of 70's easy listening ("We've Only Just Begun", "Sing", "Top Of The World"
* Captain & Tennille (sp) ("Love Will Keep Us Together")
* Supertramp ( "Dreamer", "The Logical Song", "Give A Little Bit" )
* Cat Stevens ("If You Want To Sing Out", "Moonshadow")
* Nick Drake ("Pink Moon")
* Earth, Wind, & Fire ("September")
* Paul Simon ("Kodachrome", "Take Me To The Mardi Gras")
* Randy Newman
* The B-52's
* Eurythmics ("Sweet Dreams")
* 10,000 Maniacs ("Trouble Me")
* Elvis Costello
* Dream Academy ("Life In A Northern Town")
* Daryl Hall ("Wasn't Born Yesterday", "Dreamtime")
posted by nomisxid at 4:14 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
Mod note: Some of the ASCAP/royalty sidebar removed. Raising the issue briefly is fine, but a lengthy discussion of it is not answering the question and needs to not continue happening here.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:21 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:21 PM on August 18, 2008
ASCAP and BMI almost certainly can't collect royalties in this case because of what's called the "Home-Style" exemption.
Doesn't the Homestyle Exemption (H.R. 789; 1976) only allow establishments to operate small radios and TVs free of licensing fees -- since the broadcasters have already paid a licensing fee, but such exemption does not cover those establishments that play music (from CDs, MP3, etc.), videos ("Home use only"), etc. intended for entertaining customers in their retail establishments?
Then there's the issue of "homestyle," not charging a fee, along with the definition of private versus public, when hosting a Superbowl party "on any television that's smaller than 55 inches and hooked up to fewer than five loudspeakers."
IANAL, but am interested in learning more about these issues.
posted by ericb at 4:22 PM on August 18, 2008
Doesn't the Homestyle Exemption (H.R. 789; 1976) only allow establishments to operate small radios and TVs free of licensing fees -- since the broadcasters have already paid a licensing fee, but such exemption does not cover those establishments that play music (from CDs, MP3, etc.), videos ("Home use only"), etc. intended for entertaining customers in their retail establishments?
Then there's the issue of "homestyle," not charging a fee, along with the definition of private versus public, when hosting a Superbowl party "on any television that's smaller than 55 inches and hooked up to fewer than five loudspeakers."
IANAL, but am interested in learning more about these issues.
posted by ericb at 4:22 PM on August 18, 2008
[Some of the ASCAP/royalty sidebar removed. Raising the issue briefly is fine, but a lengthy discussion of it is not answering the question and needs to not continue happening here.]
'Nuff said.
posted by ericb at 4:22 PM on August 18, 2008
'Nuff said.
posted by ericb at 4:22 PM on August 18, 2008
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and irrelevant.
Move to strike, your honor, The Bellman is being argumentative.
17 USC Sec. 110(5) does likely apply to your dad's business and similar uses of iPodded tunes. A little Googling will let you decide if your usage qualifies and if you're comfortable with the concept.
Note that The Bellman is "one of the few lawyers in the country" who has litigated this particular exemption. This means either 1)you (the OP) are golden because homestyle music performance is never challenged, or 2)litigation is an expensive option and most people challenged with suit fold rather than litigate. I wish the word "successfully" had been included in The Bellman's comment, preceding the word "litigated", but I'm assuming that's what he meant. The down side of the legal questions discussed in this thread is that even assuming The Bellman is entirely correct, there's still a chilling effect.
Night Ranger always sounded like shopping music to me.
posted by lothar at 4:38 PM on August 18, 2008
Move to strike, your honor, The Bellman is being argumentative.
17 USC Sec. 110(5) does likely apply to your dad's business and similar uses of iPodded tunes. A little Googling will let you decide if your usage qualifies and if you're comfortable with the concept.
Note that The Bellman is "one of the few lawyers in the country" who has litigated this particular exemption. This means either 1)you (the OP) are golden because homestyle music performance is never challenged, or 2)litigation is an expensive option and most people challenged with suit fold rather than litigate. I wish the word "successfully" had been included in The Bellman's comment, preceding the word "litigated", but I'm assuming that's what he meant. The down side of the legal questions discussed in this thread is that even assuming The Bellman is entirely correct, there's still a chilling effect.
Night Ranger always sounded like shopping music to me.
posted by lothar at 4:38 PM on August 18, 2008
Best answer: Aretha Franklin - Respect
Aretha Franklin - Think
Beatles - Hey Jude
CCR - Have you ever seen the rain
Elvis Presley - Heartbreak Hotel
Johnny Cash - Ring of fire
Juice Newton - Angel of the morning
Kenny Rogers - The gambler
Kingsmen - Louie Louie
Louis Armstrong - What a wonderful world
The Police - Every breath you take
Tom Jones - It's not unusual
posted by Vindaloo at 4:47 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
Aretha Franklin - Think
Beatles - Hey Jude
CCR - Have you ever seen the rain
Elvis Presley - Heartbreak Hotel
Johnny Cash - Ring of fire
Juice Newton - Angel of the morning
Kenny Rogers - The gambler
Kingsmen - Louie Louie
Louis Armstrong - What a wonderful world
The Police - Every breath you take
Tom Jones - It's not unusual
posted by Vindaloo at 4:47 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
Lothar and ericb are both correct. The issue is extremely complicated for iTunes material for a variety of reasons (which is why I suggested the OP see a lawyer), and if I had meant "successfully" I would have said so -- in fact I lost a bitter battle and it still stings, but I do know the law pretty well. And yes, there is an enormous chilling effect, no question about it. And I asked for the cleanup in this thread, so I'll shut up now.
posted by The Bellman at 4:51 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by The Bellman at 4:51 PM on August 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
There must be a nice, smooth, Muzak version of "I wanna be sedated."
posted by zippy at 5:03 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by zippy at 5:03 PM on August 18, 2008
Best answer: here's my advice: the soothing electric piano stylings of the mid to late 70's/early 80's. These are my selections from a mix I made called "Tight with the Money, but never with the lovin"
Reminiscing - Little River Band
Hey Nineteen - Steely Dan
Baby Hold On - Eddie Money
Take The Long Way Home - Supertramp
I Keep Forgettin - Michael McDonald
IGY - Donald Fagen
Goodbye Stranger - Supertramp
Peg - Steely Dan
Rich Girl - Daryl Hall & John Oates
Steal Away - Robbie DuPree
Dancin' in the Moonlight - King Harvest
Minute By Minute - The Doobie Brothers
The Things We Do for Love - 10cc
That's the Way of the World - Earth Wind & Fire
What A Fool Believes - The Doobie Brothers
Baby Come Back - Player
Biggest Part of Me - Ambrosia
I'm Not In Love - 10cc
Rise - Herb Alpert
Where Is The Love - Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway
Vienna - Billy Joel
How Long has This Been Going on - Jackson Browne
Love Will Find a Way - Pablo Cruise
Of course the downside is that the folks in the store may buy out all your mustache grooming products. Be forewarned.
posted by rileyray3000 at 5:50 PM on August 18, 2008
Reminiscing - Little River Band
Hey Nineteen - Steely Dan
Baby Hold On - Eddie Money
Take The Long Way Home - Supertramp
I Keep Forgettin - Michael McDonald
IGY - Donald Fagen
Goodbye Stranger - Supertramp
Peg - Steely Dan
Rich Girl - Daryl Hall & John Oates
Steal Away - Robbie DuPree
Dancin' in the Moonlight - King Harvest
Minute By Minute - The Doobie Brothers
The Things We Do for Love - 10cc
That's the Way of the World - Earth Wind & Fire
What A Fool Believes - The Doobie Brothers
Baby Come Back - Player
Biggest Part of Me - Ambrosia
I'm Not In Love - 10cc
Rise - Herb Alpert
Where Is The Love - Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway
Vienna - Billy Joel
How Long has This Been Going on - Jackson Browne
Love Will Find a Way - Pablo Cruise
Of course the downside is that the folks in the store may buy out all your mustache grooming products. Be forewarned.
posted by rileyray3000 at 5:50 PM on August 18, 2008
Suitable in content if not form:
Love is the Drug - Roxie Music
Pills - New York Dolls
(Why She's) The Girl From the Chain Store - Buzzcocks
posted by doncoyote at 5:59 PM on August 18, 2008
Love is the Drug - Roxie Music
Pills - New York Dolls
(Why She's) The Girl From the Chain Store - Buzzcocks
posted by doncoyote at 5:59 PM on August 18, 2008
There must be a nice, smooth, Musak version of "I wanna be sedated."
Try the Ramones Songbook as played by the Nutley Brass.
posted by plastic_animals at 6:36 PM on August 18, 2008
Try the Ramones Songbook as played by the Nutley Brass.
posted by plastic_animals at 6:36 PM on August 18, 2008
Rhiannon - Fleetwood Mac
Karma Chameleon - Culture Club
Walk Like an Egyptian - The Bangles
posted by citron at 6:46 PM on August 18, 2008
Karma Chameleon - Culture Club
Walk Like an Egyptian - The Bangles
posted by citron at 6:46 PM on August 18, 2008
Mod note: any firther copyright discussion really needs to go to MetaTalk or email, thanks
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:52 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:52 PM on August 18, 2008
Perhaps a fork in the topic, but: have you considered getting him a commercial satellite radio & subscription from Sirius/XM? For $24 a month he could have a variety of genre/decade stations to choose from. They provide a nice variety in a predictable way, with no commercials or royalty issues.
posted by Tubes at 7:15 PM on August 18, 2008
posted by Tubes at 7:15 PM on August 18, 2008
Ride Captain Ride - Blues Image
How Do You Do - Mouth and MacNeal
Draggin' the Line - Tommy James and the Shondells
Where Evil Grows - The Poppy Family
Love is Like Oxygen - The Sweet
I'm a Stranger Here - Five Man Electrical Band
posted by Oriole Adams at 8:50 PM on August 18, 2008
How Do You Do - Mouth and MacNeal
Draggin' the Line - Tommy James and the Shondells
Where Evil Grows - The Poppy Family
Love is Like Oxygen - The Sweet
I'm a Stranger Here - Five Man Electrical Band
posted by Oriole Adams at 8:50 PM on August 18, 2008
The drugs don't work... well, it's nineties (sorry, couldn't resist). But seriously, you should check this : capetown flowers. Extremely soothing.
posted by nicolin at 4:47 AM on August 19, 2008
posted by nicolin at 4:47 AM on August 19, 2008
John Tesh? Yanni? ABBA? Kenny G? Are you trying to medicate your customers or torture them? Tranquil doesn't have to mean awful. If my pharmacy played John Tesh and Kenny G all the time I would not go to that pharmacy anymore.
Anyway, I'd go for maybe some stuff off George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass", Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks", maybe some Suzanne Vega, Syd Barrett's solo albums, the whole genre of Yacht Rock (Steely Dan, Loggins & Messina, Hall & Oates, Doobies, etc.), the slower stuff off Joe Jackson's first few albums, The Carpenters, late period Beatles... there's lots of stuff you could pick without resorting to crappy, generic music like Kenny G.
posted by DecemberBoy at 4:47 AM on August 19, 2008
Anyway, I'd go for maybe some stuff off George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass", Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks", maybe some Suzanne Vega, Syd Barrett's solo albums, the whole genre of Yacht Rock (Steely Dan, Loggins & Messina, Hall & Oates, Doobies, etc.), the slower stuff off Joe Jackson's first few albums, The Carpenters, late period Beatles... there's lots of stuff you could pick without resorting to crappy, generic music like Kenny G.
posted by DecemberBoy at 4:47 AM on August 19, 2008
Best answer: Gary Wright - Love is Alive
Orleans - Still the One
Patrick Hernandez - Born to Be Alive
Bellamy Brothers - Let Your Love Flow
James Taylor & J.D. Souther - Her Town Too
Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street
Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love
Suzi Quatro & Chris Norman - Stumblin' In
Paul Young - Love is in the Air
Bread - The Guitar Man
Go-Go's - Vacation
Mr. Mister - Kyrie
INXS - The One Thing
T'Pau - Heart and Soul
Ultravox - Reap the Wild Wind
Talk Talk - Life's What You Make It
Icehouse - We Can Get Together
Tears for Fears - Change
When in Rome - The Promise
Howard Jones - New Song
Icicle Works - Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream)
Erasure - Chains of Love
posted by velvet winter at 6:02 PM on August 19, 2008
Orleans - Still the One
Patrick Hernandez - Born to Be Alive
Bellamy Brothers - Let Your Love Flow
James Taylor & J.D. Souther - Her Town Too
Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street
Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love
Suzi Quatro & Chris Norman - Stumblin' In
Paul Young - Love is in the Air
Bread - The Guitar Man
Go-Go's - Vacation
Mr. Mister - Kyrie
INXS - The One Thing
T'Pau - Heart and Soul
Ultravox - Reap the Wild Wind
Talk Talk - Life's What You Make It
Icehouse - We Can Get Together
Tears for Fears - Change
When in Rome - The Promise
Howard Jones - New Song
Icicle Works - Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream)
Erasure - Chains of Love
posted by velvet winter at 6:02 PM on August 19, 2008
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