There's not enough sushi in my sushi bar video?
June 19, 2007 8:54 AM Subscribe
So I got permission to use this* Kaiten-zushi footage for a music video. It's over a minute short. What can I do?
Intercut with 1m11s of other footage. Band footage, animated sushi, random security camera footage, something to make it look like there's a story?
posted by dersins at 9:00 AM on June 19, 2007
posted by dersins at 9:00 AM on June 19, 2007
Pick a different song or, if you are in the band or real tight with them, create a music video version/remix of the song you've already chosen.
posted by Espy Gillespie at 9:11 AM on June 19, 2007
posted by Espy Gillespie at 9:11 AM on June 19, 2007
Best answer: By the way, I make the above suggestion because I think cutting up the video and interspersing it with band footage or whatever is a bad idea. One of the basic appeals of these kaiten videos is the fact that they consist of a single, uninterrupted shot.
posted by Espy Gillespie at 9:15 AM on June 19, 2007
posted by Espy Gillespie at 9:15 AM on June 19, 2007
Loop it in parts. Done right this could look very good.
posted by damn dirty ape at 9:19 AM on June 19, 2007
posted by damn dirty ape at 9:19 AM on June 19, 2007
Try and get permission for this video instead?
Still leaves you a few seconds short, but 4m03s is a lot closer.
posted by juv3nal at 9:43 AM on June 19, 2007
Still leaves you a few seconds short, but 4m03s is a lot closer.
posted by juv3nal at 9:43 AM on June 19, 2007
Response by poster: Espy Gillespie: One of the basic appeals of these kaiten videos is the fact that they consist of a single, uninterrupted shot.
Absolutely. I really want to preserve this aspect of the video.
juv3nal, I emailed that guy a couple weeks ago, but he never replied.
So yeah, I don't really want to introduce any extra footage (unless it's more conveyor belt / sushi bar video and it wouldn't look weird). I'm trying to have a go at the selective looping route, but given this footage I don't really know where to start.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 10:08 AM on June 19, 2007
Absolutely. I really want to preserve this aspect of the video.
juv3nal, I emailed that guy a couple weeks ago, but he never replied.
So yeah, I don't really want to introduce any extra footage (unless it's more conveyor belt / sushi bar video and it wouldn't look weird). I'm trying to have a go at the selective looping route, but given this footage I don't really know where to start.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 10:08 AM on June 19, 2007
Response by poster: Oh, and:
Eddy Gillespie: Pick a different song or, if you are in the band or real tight with them, create a music video version/remix of the song you've already chosen.
It's my own song so I can basically do to it whatever I want, but sadly it's already been edited down from a longer version, and there's not much left to chisel at.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 10:11 AM on June 19, 2007
Eddy Gillespie: Pick a different song or, if you are in the band or real tight with them, create a music video version/remix of the song you've already chosen.
It's my own song so I can basically do to it whatever I want, but sadly it's already been edited down from a longer version, and there's not much left to chisel at.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 10:11 AM on June 19, 2007
Best answer: Are you just looking for a video of appropriate length, or is there something in particular about this one?
I worked at a Kaitenzushi for a few years, and I'm still on good terms with the owner. I bet he'd let me shoot a video of appropriate length if you like.
His restaurant isn't really busy, and it's in North Carolina, but if you're not picky, I'll see if I can talk Hiro-san into letting me stick a video camera on the belt.
posted by solipsophistocracy at 10:36 AM on June 19, 2007
I worked at a Kaitenzushi for a few years, and I'm still on good terms with the owner. I bet he'd let me shoot a video of appropriate length if you like.
His restaurant isn't really busy, and it's in North Carolina, but if you're not picky, I'll see if I can talk Hiro-san into letting me stick a video camera on the belt.
posted by solipsophistocracy at 10:36 AM on June 19, 2007
Best answer: Sounds to me like you have two options: Change the video or Change the song...
You say changing the song is out since its already been done.
Therefore you need to change the video. I am not sure looping some parts will help, nor will slowing things down. However, the video definitly provides for seemless cuts to additional footage, like at the 1:35 mark where the lens is covered by the boy: You could make your own video of perhaps the camera being dropped and rolling around on the floor.
An even better opportunity is to add your own end part... All you would have to do is add your own video of carrying a camera through a busy kitchen (Just try and find one that looks like the one in the video, doesn't have to be exact). Maybe the camera could be carried out to the back of the restaurant, thrown in the garbage, taken away on a truck, picked up by a seagull...
The format of the movie makes it very easy for you to transition between your own video and the original...
posted by toftflin at 10:38 AM on June 19, 2007
You say changing the song is out since its already been done.
Therefore you need to change the video. I am not sure looping some parts will help, nor will slowing things down. However, the video definitly provides for seemless cuts to additional footage, like at the 1:35 mark where the lens is covered by the boy: You could make your own video of perhaps the camera being dropped and rolling around on the floor.
An even better opportunity is to add your own end part... All you would have to do is add your own video of carrying a camera through a busy kitchen (Just try and find one that looks like the one in the video, doesn't have to be exact). Maybe the camera could be carried out to the back of the restaurant, thrown in the garbage, taken away on a truck, picked up by a seagull...
The format of the movie makes it very easy for you to transition between your own video and the original...
posted by toftflin at 10:38 AM on June 19, 2007
What about having it slow down quickly and reverse at some point? If you get the timing right and find a good spot, it could look quite natural as part of the conveyor belt action. Then repeat the process to set the video going forward again.
posted by Espy Gillespie at 11:26 AM on June 19, 2007
posted by Espy Gillespie at 11:26 AM on June 19, 2007
The obvious parts to muck with are the beginning and end, where it's put down and picked up. Do some loops in time with the music, thinking in terms of heightening the mystery of what it's about, and at the end you can maybe do some go-backs and sort of recap the highlights?
posted by dhartung at 12:55 PM on June 19, 2007
posted by dhartung at 12:55 PM on June 19, 2007
Response by poster: Thanks for the replies, guys.
(And sorry for getting your username wrong, Espy.)
I'm slightly partial to having the band perform the last minute in a kitchen somewhere, but having something 'happen' to the camera is also appealing.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 2:12 PM on June 20, 2007
(And sorry for getting your username wrong, Espy.)
I'm slightly partial to having the band perform the last minute in a kitchen somewhere, but having something 'happen' to the camera is also appealing.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 2:12 PM on June 20, 2007
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The song is 4m11s, the footage clocks in at a nice round 3 minutes. It's from a digital still camera and thus the quality is expectedly craptastic - 320x240, 15 fps MJPEG - but I'm not worried about picture quality, per se. I can stand it looking a little amateurish.
I tried slowing it down to match the audio, but unsurprisingly (given the already low frame rate) this makes the motions very jerky.
Any ideas?
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 8:55 AM on June 19, 2007