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October 6, 2006 2:28 AM Subscribe
Correct use: "consists of" vs "consists in"
I've been unable to get a straight answer to this anywhere else, but I know that mefi has more than its fair share of spelling/grammar/usage nazis, so I ask you: what's the deal with "consists of" and "consists in"? Google gives plenty of examples of both; is there a rule?
I've been unable to get a straight answer to this anywhere else, but I know that mefi has more than its fair share of spelling/grammar/usage nazis, so I ask you: what's the deal with "consists of" and "consists in"? Google gives plenty of examples of both; is there a rule?
Best answer: Partridge and Whitcut's "Usage and Abusage" has this to say:
"Consist in and consist of. Consist in is, in general, 'to have its being in'; specifically, 'to be comprised or contained in (actions, conditions, qualities', or other things non-material); 'to be constituded of', as in 'Moral government consists... in rewarding the righteous, and punishing the wicked' (Butler, 1736), 'Not every one can tell in what the beauty of a figure consists' (Jowett). Consist of is 'to be made up - or, composed - of; to have as its constituent parts, or as its substance', as in 'Newton considered light to consist of particles darted out fom luminous bodies' (Tyndall), 'An ordinary fence, consisting of a ditch and a bank' (Edge) (OED)."
posted by handee at 2:44 AM on October 6, 2006 [1 favorite]
"Consist in and consist of. Consist in is, in general, 'to have its being in'; specifically, 'to be comprised or contained in (actions, conditions, qualities', or other things non-material); 'to be constituded of', as in 'Moral government consists... in rewarding the righteous, and punishing the wicked' (Butler, 1736), 'Not every one can tell in what the beauty of a figure consists' (Jowett). Consist of is 'to be made up - or, composed - of; to have as its constituent parts, or as its substance', as in 'Newton considered light to consist of particles darted out fom luminous bodies' (Tyndall), 'An ordinary fence, consisting of a ditch and a bank' (Edge) (OED)."
posted by handee at 2:44 AM on October 6, 2006 [1 favorite]
Am I derailing this topic when I thank you for this wonderful quote?
posted by ouke at 5:44 AM on October 6, 2006
posted by ouke at 5:44 AM on October 6, 2006
I feel it might be purely gramatical
consists of N[plur]
consists in V+ing
posted by MonkeySaltedNuts at 6:17 AM on October 6, 2006 [1 favorite]
consists of N[plur]
consists in V+ing
posted by MonkeySaltedNuts at 6:17 AM on October 6, 2006 [1 favorite]
Consists in should be replaceable by "exists inside of" or "exists because of," while consists of should be replaceable by "is made up of."
posted by joannemerriam at 7:10 AM on October 6, 2006
posted by joannemerriam at 7:10 AM on October 6, 2006
I have never read or heard anybody say "consists in." Just sounds wrong, like the preposition-challenged New Yorkers who stand on line when they queue up.
posted by Rash at 9:14 AM on October 6, 2006
posted by Rash at 9:14 AM on October 6, 2006
I have never read or heard anybody say "consists in."
Google is your friend. about 8,290,000 hits.
posted by MonkeySaltedNuts at 9:24 AM on October 6, 2006
Google is your friend. about 8,290,000 hits.
posted by MonkeySaltedNuts at 9:24 AM on October 6, 2006
According to the Tragically Hip, "the human tragedy consists in the necessity of living with the consequences" (of the important things we do). I always thought it was a grammatical error until I read this thread.
posted by evinrude at 3:28 PM on October 6, 2006
posted by evinrude at 3:28 PM on October 6, 2006
MonkeySaltedNuts is right. I think this is discussed in The Elements of Style. For demonstration, look at the examples people have given.
posted by lunchbox at 8:50 AM on October 8, 2006
posted by lunchbox at 8:50 AM on October 8, 2006
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The Columbia Guide to Standard American English.
posted by grouse at 2:32 AM on October 6, 2006 [2 favorites]