the other woman
December 22, 2018 11:13 PM Subscribe
I am looking for media on, about, for the other woman.
I am looking for any writing, pop culture depictions, or notes about being the other woman. Poems are good. Books are good. TV shows are good. The point of view of, or something sympathetic to, the other woman are what I'm looking for. Maybe the French have written something?
Things I have so far:
- Grey's Anatomy season 1
- "Does He Love You?", Rilo Kiley
I am looking for any writing, pop culture depictions, or notes about being the other woman. Poems are good. Books are good. TV shows are good. The point of view of, or something sympathetic to, the other woman are what I'm looking for. Maybe the French have written something?
Things I have so far:
- Grey's Anatomy season 1
- "Does He Love You?", Rilo Kiley
Stay by Sugarland.
posted by WaspEnterprises at 11:23 PM on December 22, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by WaspEnterprises at 11:23 PM on December 22, 2018 [1 favorite]
"For My Lover, Returning to His Wife" by Anne Sexton
"Untouchable Face" by Ani DiFranco
posted by purpleclover at 11:41 PM on December 22, 2018 [1 favorite]
"Untouchable Face" by Ani DiFranco
posted by purpleclover at 11:41 PM on December 22, 2018 [1 favorite]
It’s a Woody Allen film and he’s a terrible human being, but Crimes and Misdemeanors has an amazing performance by Angelica Huston in this context. It’s dark and upsetting but particularly interesting as a look at cultural ideas about infidelity.
posted by pazazygeek at 11:45 PM on December 22, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by pazazygeek at 11:45 PM on December 22, 2018 [2 favorites]
The Break by Marian Keyes.
posted by threetwentytwo at 12:34 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by threetwentytwo at 12:34 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
I'm just realizing somebody might look at my suggestion and think I'm straight washing a queer song if they're not familiar with Okkervil River's oeuvre--while it's certainly possible to interpret Maine Island Lovers through a queer context, Will Sheff frequently inhabits woman characters in his lyrics and singing, who are also usually placed in a heterosexual context, which is why I've always interpreted Maine Island Lovers as being from the "other woman" and not the "other (possibly closeted) man".
posted by foxfirefey at 12:37 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by foxfirefey at 12:37 AM on December 23, 2018
The other man By sloan.
Not the other woman but from the perspective of the other X.
posted by St. Peepsburg at 12:38 AM on December 23, 2018
Not the other woman but from the perspective of the other X.
posted by St. Peepsburg at 12:38 AM on December 23, 2018
I don't have fiction suggestions, but a good look at "other perspectives on infidelity around the world" is a book by a Wall Street Journal reporter Pamela Druckerman, called Lust In Translation
posted by twoplussix at 12:42 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by twoplussix at 12:42 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
The Roches - The Married Men
The Neilds - Best Black Dress
posted by moonmilk at 4:05 AM on December 23, 2018
The Neilds - Best Black Dress
posted by moonmilk at 4:05 AM on December 23, 2018
Lorrie Moore’s short story collection “Self-Help” has a short story, “How To Be The Other Woman,” that might fit the bill.
posted by Stacey at 5:04 AM on December 23, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Stacey at 5:04 AM on December 23, 2018 [4 favorites]
Monica Lewinsky has an article in a recent Vanity Fair that you might find interesting. She also wrote this a few years back.
posted by platitudipus at 5:52 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by platitudipus at 5:52 AM on December 23, 2018
Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier
posted by LaBellaStella at 5:59 AM on December 23, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by LaBellaStella at 5:59 AM on December 23, 2018 [4 favorites]
- The Invisible Woman
- When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
The following suggestions feature the protagonist(s) as 'the other woman' not as the main storyline but as major subplots:
- Book 3 and 4 of Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan series, Those Who Leave and Those Who Stay, and The Story of the Lost Child. (Also these books won't make sense if you don't read the first two books first. Which everyone should definitely do.)
- Oh Lucy!
- Frantz (depending on audience interpretation)
- Maggie's Plan
posted by phonebia at 6:02 AM on December 23, 2018
- When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
The following suggestions feature the protagonist(s) as 'the other woman' not as the main storyline but as major subplots:
- Book 3 and 4 of Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan series, Those Who Leave and Those Who Stay, and The Story of the Lost Child. (Also these books won't make sense if you don't read the first two books first. Which everyone should definitely do.)
- Oh Lucy!
- Frantz (depending on audience interpretation)
- Maggie's Plan
posted by phonebia at 6:02 AM on December 23, 2018
Suzanne Vega - Song in Red and Gray
Joy Denalane - Caught Up
posted by prewar lemonade at 6:22 AM on December 23, 2018
Joy Denalane - Caught Up
posted by prewar lemonade at 6:22 AM on December 23, 2018
Katherine Heiny’s “Single, Carefree, Mellow” is a set of vignettes/short stories about relationships, and many of these involve being the other woman. Everyone in the book is messy and complicated and human; it’s quite good.
posted by umwhat at 6:28 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by umwhat at 6:28 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
The full Hollywood treatment: Back Street (1961) with Susan Hayward and John Gavin.
posted by TWinbrook8 at 7:49 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by TWinbrook8 at 7:49 AM on December 23, 2018
The Beatles "Norweigan Wood."
posted by PhoBWanKenobi at 7:49 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by PhoBWanKenobi at 7:49 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.
posted by superlibby at 7:51 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by superlibby at 7:51 AM on December 23, 2018
Essay anthology: The Other Woman: Twenty-one Wives, Lovers, and Others Talk Openly About Sex, Deception, Love, and Betrayal
Nonfiction psychology book: The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity
posted by limeonaire at 8:19 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
Nonfiction psychology book: The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity
posted by limeonaire at 8:19 AM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
In the movie, Hannah and Her Sisters, Barbara Hershey’s character is the other woman.
posted by loveandhappiness at 9:08 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by loveandhappiness at 9:08 AM on December 23, 2018
She’s Not Me by Jenny Lewis. She’s got a couple other songs in her catalog that would probably fit the bill too.
posted by furnace.heart at 10:13 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by furnace.heart at 10:13 AM on December 23, 2018
Homewrecker is a collection of adultery related writings--it's not solely about "the other woman" but includes material on that topic.
posted by mollymayhem at 11:49 AM on December 23, 2018
posted by mollymayhem at 11:49 AM on December 23, 2018
Saving All My Love For You - Whitney Houston
posted by freya_lamb at 12:42 PM on December 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by freya_lamb at 12:42 PM on December 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
The Decline of the American Empire and its sequels deal with adultery in Quebec intellectual circles (from a male POV but women get a lot of screen time).
posted by saucysault at 1:39 PM on December 23, 2018
posted by saucysault at 1:39 PM on December 23, 2018
The Constant Mistress, by Angela Lambert.
And possibly By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept, by Elizabeth Smart.
posted by orange swan at 2:14 PM on December 23, 2018
And possibly By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept, by Elizabeth Smart.
posted by orange swan at 2:14 PM on December 23, 2018
For LOLs, the appropriately titled movie The Other Woman.
posted by velvet_n_purrs at 2:43 PM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by velvet_n_purrs at 2:43 PM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
When you know I've got troubles enough?
Why do you call me
When you know I can't answer the phone?
Make me lie, when I don't want to
And make someone else some kind of an unknowin' fool
You make me stare, when I should not
Are you so strong or is all the weakness in me?
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 4:02 PM on December 23, 2018
Diane - Cam
I think I remember her saying in an interview that it's actually supposed to be a response to "Jolene".
posted by yeahyeahrealcute at 8:06 PM on December 23, 2018
I think I remember her saying in an interview that it's actually supposed to be a response to "Jolene".
posted by yeahyeahrealcute at 8:06 PM on December 23, 2018
Scandal. Wheeeew boy, Scandal.
posted by Charity Garfein at 9:15 PM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Charity Garfein at 9:15 PM on December 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
More songs:
Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend
SZA - The Weekend
posted by Freeze Peach at 6:40 AM on December 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend
SZA - The Weekend
posted by Freeze Peach at 6:40 AM on December 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
Halsey Street, a novel by Naima Coster
posted by prewar lemonade at 5:13 AM on December 25, 2018
posted by prewar lemonade at 5:13 AM on December 25, 2018
I'm really late to the party but The Affair on Showtime shows from every point of view including the other woman.
posted by getawaysticks at 2:49 PM on January 1, 2019
posted by getawaysticks at 2:49 PM on January 1, 2019
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