ISO university that offers online CHEM with intensive in person LABS
May 20, 2018 10:31 AM Subscribe
well, this is proving to be a bit of an elusive unicorn - yes, many schools offer hybrid online/in person CHEM but how to find the ones that offer a **very condensed in person lab option** - ie one you could travel for if you had to, and do all at once, efficiently. If you've never tried to look for this particular magical beast you probably think it's something a quick google can solve. Alas, this has not been my experience.. details inside
The goal: a place to take general chem I & II (for science majors) online - at least the lectures part, that is - at a school that offers it with **online lectures** and **in-person labs**, where the labs are offered in a condensed consecutive day format, so instead of needing to go every monday for 6 weeks or 8 weeks or whatever, you go all day every day for a week (or some such.)
To give you an example of what I seek - it appears that Oregon State University might offer something like this (see here ) , I'll have to call on monday, but when one searches their summer schedule-o-classes tool and look at the listed offerings for the relevant lab, one doesn't see any such "condensed" animal.
So I got to thinking.. maybe this is a question for smart humans like ya'll, rather than search engines.. have any of you found courses like this? or maybe you work or study at a school that offers them? excited for any insight you might have...
-- as an aside -- i swear there ought to be some kind of a search portal that helps folks find suitable online courses, across schools that offer them, for their needs. I think it would really incentivize schools to have jazzy online options, if they could easily market them to exactly the niche that's looking for them. for example, another search i've tried to do is for schools that offer **synchronous** (as opposed to asynchronous, like most of them) online learning with set days and times to attend via web conference. These are great options because they help alleviate the time management troubles of online learning, and yet I've found no efficient way to search for them and schools don't seem to think of them as a selling point... Yet in many cases i'd pay more for a synchronous online class.. there have to be others like me? If you work for an online university in the marketing department, i'd be glad to tell you more of my wish list..
The goal: a place to take general chem I & II (for science majors) online - at least the lectures part, that is - at a school that offers it with **online lectures** and **in-person labs**, where the labs are offered in a condensed consecutive day format, so instead of needing to go every monday for 6 weeks or 8 weeks or whatever, you go all day every day for a week (or some such.)
To give you an example of what I seek - it appears that Oregon State University might offer something like this (see here ) , I'll have to call on monday, but when one searches their summer schedule-o-classes tool and look at the listed offerings for the relevant lab, one doesn't see any such "condensed" animal.
So I got to thinking.. maybe this is a question for smart humans like ya'll, rather than search engines.. have any of you found courses like this? or maybe you work or study at a school that offers them? excited for any insight you might have...
-- as an aside -- i swear there ought to be some kind of a search portal that helps folks find suitable online courses, across schools that offer them, for their needs. I think it would really incentivize schools to have jazzy online options, if they could easily market them to exactly the niche that's looking for them. for example, another search i've tried to do is for schools that offer **synchronous** (as opposed to asynchronous, like most of them) online learning with set days and times to attend via web conference. These are great options because they help alleviate the time management troubles of online learning, and yet I've found no efficient way to search for them and schools don't seem to think of them as a selling point... Yet in many cases i'd pay more for a synchronous online class.. there have to be others like me? If you work for an online university in the marketing department, i'd be glad to tell you more of my wish list..
From a Canadian perspective (so probably not super-helpful):
Athabasca University in Canada does what you're asking for. You'd take this lecture (self-paced, online) and book the lab here.
Thompson Rivers University, also in Canada, does what you're asking for, but only for organic chemistry. (Also asynchronous.) Their general chemistry offering includes a "home lab" which is only available to Canadian residents.
I bet OSU has what you're looking for - it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the intensive lab didn't play well with whatever scheduling software they use.
posted by invokeuse at 11:56 AM on May 20, 2018
Athabasca University in Canada does what you're asking for. You'd take this lecture (self-paced, online) and book the lab here.
Thompson Rivers University, also in Canada, does what you're asking for, but only for organic chemistry. (Also asynchronous.) Their general chemistry offering includes a "home lab" which is only available to Canadian residents.
I bet OSU has what you're looking for - it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the intensive lab didn't play well with whatever scheduling software they use.
posted by invokeuse at 11:56 AM on May 20, 2018
Arizona State does this for organic: https://sms.asu.edu/condensed-labs.
posted by 8603 at 12:27 PM on May 20, 2018
posted by 8603 at 12:27 PM on May 20, 2018
And maybe on the border of what you can do--Santa Clara University does 3-week combined lecture + lab, which is pretty darn short. https://www.scu.edu/summer/schedule-of-classes/intensive-lab-sciences/
posted by 8603 at 12:34 PM on May 20, 2018
posted by 8603 at 12:34 PM on May 20, 2018
Oregon State University offers 231, 232, and 233 as online classes. The labs to go with these three classes are 261, 262, and 263. OSU is on a term system so 3 terms = 2 semesters. They do offer these three labs on campus during the summer, however, they are not as condensed as you would like. You can take:
261 on MW or T/R from dates 6/25/18 to7/20/18
262 is MW or T/R on dates 7/23/18 to 8/17/18
263 is MTWR from 8/20/18 to 9/7/18
One advantage of taking summer courses at OSU is I believe they charge everybody in-state tuition rates. And, even though you will be stuck in Corvallis over the summer, it's a very pretty summer IMHO.
I am currently a post-bacc at OSU, if you are interested and are having trouble navigating the system. Realize you would be packing 15 credit hours into three months. and entire year of chemistry!
posted by Foam Pants at 11:29 PM on May 21, 2018
261 on MW or T/R from dates 6/25/18 to7/20/18
262 is MW or T/R on dates 7/23/18 to 8/17/18
263 is MTWR from 8/20/18 to 9/7/18
One advantage of taking summer courses at OSU is I believe they charge everybody in-state tuition rates. And, even though you will be stuck in Corvallis over the summer, it's a very pretty summer IMHO.
I am currently a post-bacc at OSU, if you are interested and are having trouble navigating the system. Realize you would be packing 15 credit hours into three months. and entire year of chemistry!
posted by Foam Pants at 11:29 PM on May 21, 2018
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100 and 200 level Chemistry was a combination of coursework and labs, 8:30 to 3:30 or something like that for 3.5 weeks. Organic Chem was split into 1 month of coursework and 1 month of lab.
posted by porpoise at 11:01 AM on May 20, 2018