What is this sign?
August 28, 2016 9:41 PM   Subscribe

A friend and I walked by this sign. I thought it seemed a little fishy, so I asked another friend and he said it's definitely not a National Security Agency sign. So then what is it?
posted by hapticactionnetwork to Grab Bag (18 answers total) 4 users marked this as a favorite
 
Can you tell us the city/state/region/something where you saw it?
posted by juliplease at 10:01 PM on August 28, 2016


Response by poster: Glendale, California.
posted by hapticactionnetwork at 10:04 PM on August 28, 2016


If you're in Glendale, are you sure it's not left over from something that's being or has recently been filmed there? That would be my guess -- it's a prop.
posted by Countess Sandwich at 10:12 PM on August 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


It's certainly not NSA. I worked for a while at a company that did major work for NSA, and they were invariably referred to as "Fort Mead". We were told never to refer to "NSA".

(I have no idea why. Also, that was the worst job I ever had in my life.)
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 11:11 PM on August 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


That star could be a Rub el Hizb and so maybe the sign is trying to make some political point?
posted by roosterboy at 11:29 PM on August 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Strange... my guess would be something to do with Occult symbolism. Here's this, if it helps.
posted by naju at 12:29 AM on August 29, 2016


White supremacists frequently accuse the NSA of being controlled by Jews, or by Israel. I would assume it's a sign from some group associated with that movement.

I'm not going to link to any specific sites, but if you do the usual internet search for "jews controlling nsa" you'll find lots of hate.
posted by blob at 5:09 AM on August 29, 2016 [2 favorites]


Probably not useful, but the eagle is the same one used here.
posted by beyond_pink at 5:29 AM on August 29, 2016


It took me a minute to realize, but that's a Star of Lakshmi, associated with Hinduism, and is not the Judaic Star of David.
posted by Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug at 7:01 AM on August 29, 2016


Although your photo doesn't give any context, the sign appears to be professionally mounted in a substantial frame behind glass, like a movie poster. It may not be a mysterious rune that needs a deep interpretation. I'd suggest you go back there and find out who owns the frame and put up the sign. The meaning will follow from that.
posted by JimN2TAW at 7:17 AM on August 29, 2016


FWIW, the actual NSA logo is kinda nifty; an eagle with a shield, clutching a key.
posted by Nelson at 7:22 AM on August 29, 2016 [1 favorite]


Or use Street View to find out what establishment the frame is attached to, and phone them.
posted by JimN2TAW at 8:59 AM on August 29, 2016 [1 favorite]


If you provide an address, can go check it out this week and ask around.

The idea that it is a movie prop is a good one, but I'll have to confirm.

My idea, since someone got the Hebrew symbolism wrong (heh) is that it's either (a) a movie prop to do with a conspiracy theory plot or (b) anti-gov't propaganda/street art by someone trying to make a statement?
posted by jbenben at 10:02 AM on August 29, 2016 [1 favorite]


I've seen that. It's across the street from a Harley dealership. Also, right next to it is (or at least was, I haven't paid attention) a stage theater. Might have something to do with that.
posted by Pacrand at 12:13 PM on August 29, 2016


The NSA is quite particular about the use of its logo for unaffiliated projects and has unsuccessfully sued people in the past for satirizing them.

The 8-pointed star design has been found in Islamic art & architecture as well as in Buddhist and Hindu symbolism. As others pointed out, it is most assuredly not the six-pointed Star of David, which is composed of triangles, not squares.
posted by xyzzy at 1:53 PM on August 29, 2016


"I've seen that. It's across the street from a Harley dealership."

Aha! As suspected, this is on Glendale Blvd, Atwater Village and not Glendale proper... See: suspicion this is badly sourced conspiracy theory iconography to make a political statement.

Atwater Village. That explains it!!
posted by jbenben at 10:02 PM on August 29, 2016


In this Atwater Village scenario, the reference to Islamic (as well as Hindu and Buddhist symbolism referenced above) might be spot on. In the sense that it makes you think and then re-think. See: Atwater Village.

(I wish they had better public schools because I would be living there right now... :))
posted by jbenben at 10:05 PM on August 29, 2016


It's gone now, by the way. And no, it isn't Atwater Village. Atwater ends at the intersection of Brand and San Fernando, and north on San Fernando, where this was, is Glendale.
posted by Pacrand at 9:46 PM on August 31, 2016


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