What did Robert Oppenheimer say about scientists' drive to get results?
June 14, 2014 9:10 AM Subscribe
I read a while ago a quote from Oppenheimer that eloquently expressed the idea that once a scientist gets in his or her head the idea that a result is achievable, he or she will not be stopped until that result is achieved. He referred to the scientist, though the sense in which he meant the term might better map to what many consider an engineer.
Oppenheimer said or wrote this in the context of the Manhattan Project, I believe, providing perspective on the mind of a scientist that, say, was just exposed to the idea of the possibility of building an atom bomb when that scientist realizes that he or she possesses the skills to help make that happen. This quote—to me at least—captured a lot of what's admirable and dangerous about the rage to learn and do in a way that reminded me of Vonnegut's Player Piano.
Oppenheimer said or wrote this in the context of the Manhattan Project, I believe, providing perspective on the mind of a scientist that, say, was just exposed to the idea of the possibility of building an atom bomb when that scientist realizes that he or she possesses the skills to help make that happen. This quote—to me at least—captured a lot of what's admirable and dangerous about the rage to learn and do in a way that reminded me of Vonnegut's Player Piano.
Best answer: There's a couple quotes you could be referring to, he opined on that kind of subject frequently...the technically sweet above...or any of these?
"But when you come right down to it, the reason that we did this job is because it was an organic necessity. If you are a scientist you cannot stop such a thing. If you are a scientist you believe that it is good to find out how the world works; that it is good to find out what the realities are; that it is good to turn over to mankind at large the greatest possible power to control the world and to deal with it according to its lights and values." (from a speech at Los Alamos regarding the Manhattan project)
"There is something irreversible about acquiring knowledge; and the simulation of the search for it differs in a most profound way from the reality. "
"[W]e have made a thing, a most terrible weapon, that has altered abruptly and profoundly the nature of the world. We have made a thing that, by all standards of the world we grew up in, is an evil thing. And by doing so, by our participation in making it possible to make these things, we have raised again the question of whether science is good for man, of whether it is good to learn about the world, to try to understand it, to try to control it, to help give to the world of men increased insight, increased power. Because we are scientists, we must say an unalterable yes to these questions; it is our faith and our commitment, seldom made explicit, even more seldom challenged, that knowledge is a good in itself, knowledge and such power as must come with it."
posted by barchan at 10:10 AM on June 14, 2014
"But when you come right down to it, the reason that we did this job is because it was an organic necessity. If you are a scientist you cannot stop such a thing. If you are a scientist you believe that it is good to find out how the world works; that it is good to find out what the realities are; that it is good to turn over to mankind at large the greatest possible power to control the world and to deal with it according to its lights and values." (from a speech at Los Alamos regarding the Manhattan project)
"There is something irreversible about acquiring knowledge; and the simulation of the search for it differs in a most profound way from the reality. "
"[W]e have made a thing, a most terrible weapon, that has altered abruptly and profoundly the nature of the world. We have made a thing that, by all standards of the world we grew up in, is an evil thing. And by doing so, by our participation in making it possible to make these things, we have raised again the question of whether science is good for man, of whether it is good to learn about the world, to try to understand it, to try to control it, to help give to the world of men increased insight, increased power. Because we are scientists, we must say an unalterable yes to these questions; it is our faith and our commitment, seldom made explicit, even more seldom challenged, that knowledge is a good in itself, knowledge and such power as must come with it."
posted by barchan at 10:10 AM on June 14, 2014
Oh I forgot one: “It is a profound and necessary truth that the deep things in science are not found because they are useful; they are found because it was possible to find them.”
posted by barchan at 10:15 AM on June 14, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by barchan at 10:15 AM on June 14, 2014 [1 favorite]
Possibly are you thinking of the first of Clarke's laws
posted by koolkat at 10:48 AM on June 14, 2014
posted by koolkat at 10:48 AM on June 14, 2014
Response by poster: Folks, thank you so much; the "technically sweet" was exactly what I was thinking of. A Both as a creative person and a manager of creative people—I'm a programmer with a liberal arts background—his words exhilarated even as they sobered me to the ramifications of what I create as part of my profession. Thank you again.
posted by edw at 3:41 PM on June 14, 2014
posted by edw at 3:41 PM on June 14, 2014
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