Looking for a french thesis
January 6, 2012 11:01 AM Subscribe
What is the best way to get access to a thesis published in 1966 in L'Universite Nancy Faculte des Sciences, France?
I'm looking for this reference Le Guelte, L. 1966. Structure de la toile de Zygiella x-notata Cl. (Araigne´es, Argiopidae) et facteurs
qui re´gissent le comportemente de l’araigne´ ependant la construction de la toile. These Publications de l’Universite Nancy Faculte des Sciences
I'm looking for this reference Le Guelte, L. 1966. Structure de la toile de Zygiella x-notata Cl. (Araigne´es, Argiopidae) et facteurs
qui re´gissent le comportemente de l’araigne´ ependant la construction de la toile. These Publications de l’Universite Nancy Faculte des Sciences
If you're associated with a university in any way, try asking *your* university library for help getting the thesis. Even if you're just an alumnus and/or not on campus, they might be able to help. Heck, you could even try just walking in if there's a university library near you.
posted by mskyle at 11:18 AM on January 6, 2012
posted by mskyle at 11:18 AM on January 6, 2012
Yes, a university library should be able to help you.
In France, for information, theses are referenced at SUDOC, unfortunately it doesn't help in your particular case. (There is one other result for a search on "louis guelte", however.) There's also Theses.fr. I can't find how far back SUDOC goes; there doesn't seem to be much before 1980, so they're probably still adding records (it's relatively new).
posted by fraula at 11:41 AM on January 6, 2012
In France, for information, theses are referenced at SUDOC, unfortunately it doesn't help in your particular case. (There is one other result for a search on "louis guelte", however.) There's also Theses.fr. I can't find how far back SUDOC goes; there doesn't seem to be much before 1980, so they're probably still adding records (it's relatively new).
posted by fraula at 11:41 AM on January 6, 2012
Response by poster: Though I am associated with a university, I'm not in the US (I'm in Mexico), the library is not that good. But I'll give it a shot, but if anyone has more ideas, please let me know.
posted by dhruva at 12:06 PM on January 6, 2012
posted by dhruva at 12:06 PM on January 6, 2012
I meant contact the librarian at Nantes; sorry if that wasn't clear.
posted by altolinguistic at 12:42 PM on January 6, 2012
posted by altolinguistic at 12:42 PM on January 6, 2012
Nancy, sorry (it's been a long day).
posted by altolinguistic at 12:42 PM on January 6, 2012
posted by altolinguistic at 12:42 PM on January 6, 2012
Do you belong to any online scientific mailing lists or discussion groups? I occasionally see requests for obscure articles and references on a list I read.
posted by mimo at 12:43 PM on January 6, 2012
posted by mimo at 12:43 PM on January 6, 2012
Even if your library is bad, the librarian in France (or at Western Carolina) may be willing to send a copy to another librarian than they would to a random scholar. Also, older theses are often published as in microforms, which you might not be able to read on your own.
Another thing you could do is try to track down the original author, Louis Le Guelte (though of course he might not be alive) or people who worked with him (e.g. coauthors on other publications).
posted by mskyle at 12:58 PM on January 6, 2012
Another thing you could do is try to track down the original author, Louis Le Guelte (though of course he might not be alive) or people who worked with him (e.g. coauthors on other publications).
posted by mskyle at 12:58 PM on January 6, 2012
Oh, actually it looks like you can request it directly from the Bibliotheque nationale de France - on this record, over on the right-hand side, there's a link that says "reproduire" that leads you to a request form. My French is not good enough to understand exactly who is allowed to make requests and there is a fee of course, but it would be easy enough to fill out the form and get an estimate.
posted by mskyle at 1:11 PM on January 6, 2012
posted by mskyle at 1:11 PM on January 6, 2012
Response by poster: I meant contact the librarian at Nantes
Ah I understand, I misunderstood earlier.
I couldn't find any recent work published by the author, to get a current address.
mskyle: I think this might be a great option, I will get a french speaker to check whether they will indeed mail it all the way to Mexico.
mimo (hi!): i don't really belong to any mailing lists, but I did write to a couple of people.
This thesis will either support my hypothesis or destroy it completely, so one way or the other I need to get my hands on it :)
posted by dhruva at 3:16 PM on January 6, 2012
Ah I understand, I misunderstood earlier.
I couldn't find any recent work published by the author, to get a current address.
mskyle: I think this might be a great option, I will get a french speaker to check whether they will indeed mail it all the way to Mexico.
mimo (hi!): i don't really belong to any mailing lists, but I did write to a couple of people.
This thesis will either support my hypothesis or destroy it completely, so one way or the other I need to get my hands on it :)
posted by dhruva at 3:16 PM on January 6, 2012
Write to the secretary (who appears to be christine.bailly@scbiol.uhp-nancy.fr) of the department of Biology and ask what they recommend. They'll probably set you up with a librarian to help you.
posted by Namlit at 4:36 PM on January 6, 2012
posted by Namlit at 4:36 PM on January 6, 2012
Very long shot, but Louis Le Guelte (born 1938) has an account at the popular French "school friends" network "Copains d'avant". His account is here but you'll need to register first to see his account and send a personal message.
posted by elgilito at 6:46 AM on January 8, 2012
posted by elgilito at 6:46 AM on January 8, 2012
Response by poster: Thanks everybody, I'll follow up on these options, and will update when I make some headway.
posted by dhruva at 6:40 PM on January 8, 2012
posted by dhruva at 6:40 PM on January 8, 2012
Response by poster: Update: I wrote to one of the people who cited the thesis, who kindly scanned and emailed me a paper that pretty much had everything I needed from the thesis.
posted by dhruva at 3:46 PM on December 31, 2012
posted by dhruva at 3:46 PM on December 31, 2012
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posted by altolinguistic at 11:10 AM on January 6, 2012