charlie rose online
April 5, 2005 8:50 PM Subscribe
thomas l. friedman was awesome on charlie rose tonight. is the show available, you know, on the internets?
If you care about legality, you can buy tapes of the show via the internets here. If you don't care about legality, you should know that Charlie Rose doesn't show up on TvTorrents' list of "shows that have been torrented in the past seasons and new ones that will likely be torrented this coming season." For alternatives, you might want to spend time at this file-sharing page.
You might also find some of the sharply anti-Friedman comments in this recent thread interesting.
posted by mediareport at 9:53 PM on April 5, 2005
You might also find some of the sharply anti-Friedman comments in this recent thread interesting.
posted by mediareport at 9:53 PM on April 5, 2005
I just saw it. You'll learn what you need from the article and from the ensuing discussion in this thread. His appearance was kinda embarassing, actually, because he almost talked down to rose. His writing is much more intelligent than his actual speech ( or at least it was in this case).
And what mediareport said, if you take away his anti-Friedman bend.
posted by SeizeTheDay at 9:55 PM on April 5, 2005
And what mediareport said, if you take away his anti-Friedman bend.
posted by SeizeTheDay at 9:55 PM on April 5, 2005
If you know someone with a Direct TV dish, the national PBS channel re-runs Rose several times. It's ch. 377.
posted by Marky at 10:34 PM on April 5, 2005
posted by Marky at 10:34 PM on April 5, 2005
Response by poster: his columns often make me cringe but i loved him on charlie rose. thomas l. friedman is the thinking man's dr. phil!
posted by subpixel at 7:25 AM on April 6, 2005
posted by subpixel at 7:25 AM on April 6, 2005
Even the Daily Show hardly gets posted on tvtorrents.tv; maybe 7 episodes every 2 weeks. A big problem I've had with torrents has been the availability of news, documentary and academic programs. I did find this site with science and documentary tv shows via the bittorrent wikipedia article.
I loved his interview with Kanye West.
posted by scazza at 7:43 AM on April 6, 2005
I loved his interview with Kanye West.
posted by scazza at 7:43 AM on April 6, 2005
I was watching the same Charlie Rose show, and I had an interesting reaction. Friedman is a fascinating and enthusiastic speaker, and I was really enjoying the show.
But about half way through, my perspective on what he was saying flipped 180 degrees. While he is enthusiastic about the "flattening" of the world, you could also take the perspective that his "10 factors" might very well be looked at as "the perfect storm" that allowed business to act independently of the governments and cultures of individual countries. And I am rather distressed by what that implies.
The flattening of the business labor markets and supply chains is driven entirely by business, and has scary implications for those who live in high-wage countries like the U.S., Europe, and Canada. Part of the flattening is "equalization," of economics, opportunity, education, etc. And from the perspective of the fully-developed first world, this is a zero-sum game.
The years beween the 1970s and today have seen pinching of the working class, as high-wage manufacturing jobs are exported, and low-end service jobs (the proverbial burger flipper) take their place. Now, a similar restructuring is taking place in which white-collar "knowledge" labor is moving overseas, being replaced by.... what exactly? The trendlines are clearly towards greater disparities between rich and poor; couple this with a political class that is determined to remove the role of the government as a buffer and mediator for economic dislocation, and it becomes clear that we are entering some times of great and traumatic change.
The commercial world is becoming completely unbound from the political, economic and cultural contexts from which it arises. To a certain kind of conservative, this is a good thing. Nevertheless, a corporation is an entity without a conscience, or loyalty, or higher principles (I'm not saying this as a condemnation--corporations are man-made tools for making money, and this is what they were designed to do) However, allowing corporations to be the primary creators of policy and culture throughout the world is the largest, scariest sociological experiment ever conducted.
You can see the cultural blowback from all over the globe. Our little "terrorism problem" stems directly from it. Every culture in the world is being confronted by "western" (actually, commercial) values, and their traditional cultural foundations are being threatened and damaged. Reactionary, rightist movements are springing up all over the world, from our own "Republican Revolution," to the Islamist movement, to the nacent anti-Immigration movements in Europe.
Here's what I find frustrating about Friedman" From the perspective of corporate managers and investors, these are exciting times indeed. But for the 99% of the world that comprises the "rest of us," we are slamming headlong into changes in the cultural, economic and social foundations of society to a degree absolutely unprecedented in human history. And the ways in which we get a handle on these changes is going determine, to a large degree, the nature of the human experience in the future.
posted by curtm at 8:40 AM on April 6, 2005
But about half way through, my perspective on what he was saying flipped 180 degrees. While he is enthusiastic about the "flattening" of the world, you could also take the perspective that his "10 factors" might very well be looked at as "the perfect storm" that allowed business to act independently of the governments and cultures of individual countries. And I am rather distressed by what that implies.
The flattening of the business labor markets and supply chains is driven entirely by business, and has scary implications for those who live in high-wage countries like the U.S., Europe, and Canada. Part of the flattening is "equalization," of economics, opportunity, education, etc. And from the perspective of the fully-developed first world, this is a zero-sum game.
The years beween the 1970s and today have seen pinching of the working class, as high-wage manufacturing jobs are exported, and low-end service jobs (the proverbial burger flipper) take their place. Now, a similar restructuring is taking place in which white-collar "knowledge" labor is moving overseas, being replaced by.... what exactly? The trendlines are clearly towards greater disparities between rich and poor; couple this with a political class that is determined to remove the role of the government as a buffer and mediator for economic dislocation, and it becomes clear that we are entering some times of great and traumatic change.
The commercial world is becoming completely unbound from the political, economic and cultural contexts from which it arises. To a certain kind of conservative, this is a good thing. Nevertheless, a corporation is an entity without a conscience, or loyalty, or higher principles (I'm not saying this as a condemnation--corporations are man-made tools for making money, and this is what they were designed to do) However, allowing corporations to be the primary creators of policy and culture throughout the world is the largest, scariest sociological experiment ever conducted.
You can see the cultural blowback from all over the globe. Our little "terrorism problem" stems directly from it. Every culture in the world is being confronted by "western" (actually, commercial) values, and their traditional cultural foundations are being threatened and damaged. Reactionary, rightist movements are springing up all over the world, from our own "Republican Revolution," to the Islamist movement, to the nacent anti-Immigration movements in Europe.
Here's what I find frustrating about Friedman" From the perspective of corporate managers and investors, these are exciting times indeed. But for the 99% of the world that comprises the "rest of us," we are slamming headlong into changes in the cultural, economic and social foundations of society to a degree absolutely unprecedented in human history. And the ways in which we get a handle on these changes is going determine, to a large degree, the nature of the human experience in the future.
posted by curtm at 8:40 AM on April 6, 2005
Best answer: Comcast Digital On Demand carries Charlie Rose. They have not yet listed the Thomas Friedman interview. Find someone with Comcast Digital On Demand and TiVo-To-Go and have them make you a DVD - or a videotape using a VCR.
posted by ericb at 4:02 PM on April 6, 2005
posted by ericb at 4:02 PM on April 6, 2005
http://www.btefnet.net/ is more consistent with Daily Show postings but I haven't seen Charlie Rose before.
posted by jeffmik at 7:39 AM on April 7, 2005
posted by jeffmik at 7:39 AM on April 7, 2005
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posted by amberglow at 9:04 PM on April 5, 2005