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This year I have been accidentally discovering the hard rock in the 70s that for some reason escaped me. The latest discovery is Jetliner by Steve Miller, thanks to Noah Baumbach. Despite writing about music, I am not exactly sure what I am looking for...

I like a lot of the outlaw country in the 70s that came from rock. I sort of am okay with Skynrd, I like 3 of the Steve Miller songs I have heard so far (Jetliner, Abracadabra, Rockin' Me) but do not like the Joker. I like some of the J Geils Band, and only the bits of the Allmann Brothers that clock in under 8 minutes. I am really excited by the stupid fun of current Nashville that cribs heavily from this kind of stuff. (esp. Trace Adkins)

(I know lots about some 70s music, esp. Singer/Songwriter sop, and sloppy punk, but not this)

Where do I go from here?
posted by PinkMoose to Media & Arts (56 answers total) 19 users marked this as a favorite
The Long Ryders
posted by jbickers at 10:30 AM on March 23, 2010

posted by The Light Fantastic at 10:31 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

Best answer: Well, I take it you're already very familiar with the greatest rock band of all time: Led Zeppelin.
posted by Lutoslawski at 10:35 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

Response by poster: I am not really that familar with Led Zep, and which Aerosmith
posted by PinkMoose at 10:36 AM on March 23, 2010

Go check out the two soundtracks (separate links) from the movie Dazed & Confused. Great collections of popular songs of the day, and they offer some excellent starting points for artists you might enjoy further (and if you're up for it, go see the film. Wonderful stuff.)
posted by Rewind at 10:38 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

Do they have to be American? How about Foghat and Bad Company?
posted by cazoo at 10:38 AM on March 23, 2010

You might like The Marshall Tucker Band.
posted by iconomy at 10:40 AM on March 23, 2010

Best answer: If you only are familiar with the most popular songs, I'd go back and have a listen to the albums from Led Zeppelin, Jimi hendrix, black sabbath, Creedence clearwater revival, Cream, zztop, The outlaws
posted by ShootTheMoon at 10:42 AM on March 23, 2010

Best answer: There's a lot of good stuff to be had from this time/ style:

I'll assume that you have already explored bigger bands like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Queen, and ZZ Top (if not, do yourself a favor, their '70s stuff is great.)

Taken from what's on my MP3 player now:

Foghat - Slow Ride
Hollies - Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress
Joe Walsh (lots of his stuff but specifically) Life's Been Good to Me So Far, Rocky Mountain Way, and The Confessor
Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son
Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' with Disaster
War - Lowrider
Steve Miller Band - Jungle Love

In the "also ran" category of songs that don't exactly fit the outlaw rock genera, but find a warm place next to it in my playlists:

Kool and the Gang - Jungle Boogie
Norman Greenbaum - Spirit in the Sky
Rare Earth - I Just Want to Celebrate

posted by quin at 10:42 AM on March 23, 2010 [2 favorites]

For Aerosmith, I would go with Toys in the Attic

Led Zep? Anything, really. Though, you might as well as go with Led Zep IV

As long as you're exploring 70's rock, might as well try some Foghat and some real early (pre-synth) Z Z Top.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:44 AM on March 23, 2010

Also see The Eagles, Joe Cocker, Creedence Clearwater Revival.
posted by jamaro at 10:46 AM on March 23, 2010

The Strawbs: a fantastic 70's rock group that often doesn't get their due today, though they should. They made it bigger in the UK than they did over here. You should listen to their best song, "Lay Down."
posted by koeselitz at 10:47 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

Toys in the Attic is okay, but I prefer Rocks.

If you like Southern rock, there's a lot more to look into--Black Oak Arkansas, Mountain, etc.
posted by box at 10:48 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

1970s country/rock? The Band! Music from Big Pink all the way through The Last Waltz, tied with Stop Making Sense for greatest concert film ever.
posted by sallybrown at 10:49 AM on March 23, 2010 [3 favorites]

Best answer: I'm not sure I would classify Steve Miller as "hard rock." You say you like Steve Miller and (non-jam) Allman Brothers, which I would say are both a little more in the way of standard "rock and roll" with some folk/country/southern influences. I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure you want "hard rock." If you do, lots of suggestions in the vein of other comments:

Led Zeppelin obviously, along with Black Sabbath and Deep Purple if you want to get a little "harder"
Grand Funk Railroad
Anything with Carmine Appice
Jimi Hendrix

But if you're more into the Allman Bros and Steve Miller, I think a different route is appropriate:

The Eagles/Joe Walsh
Big Brother & The Holding Company
Little Feat
The Band
Jeff Beck

I dunno maybe I'm misreading your comment.
posted by jckll at 10:51 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

Response by poster: I love the Band, totally into Black Oak Arkansas, Mountain is a little guitar wanky for me, I hate the Eagles.

I am listening to Foghat and Kansas.
posted by PinkMoose at 10:51 AM on March 23, 2010

Best answer: Grand Funk Railroad.

Rare Earth.
posted by JanetLand at 10:53 AM on March 23, 2010

Response by poster: ZZ Top, wow!

I have no idea what I want, I just want shit that sounds epic, and stoned and horribly 70s--how did i miss this shit.
posted by PinkMoose at 10:55 AM on March 23, 2010

The Cars
posted by runningwithscissors at 10:56 AM on March 23, 2010

The Faces
early Van Halen
posted by Jaltcoh at 11:02 AM on March 23, 2010

>I have no idea what I want, I just want shit that sounds epic, and stoned and horribly >70s--how did i miss this shit.

Seriously, you wrote above that you missed led zeppelin. What you described is quintessential zep. Most of there songs are all about epic length build ups. My personal favorite is dazed and confused.
posted by ShootTheMoon at 11:03 AM on March 23, 2010 [2 favorites]

Try Joe Walsh (Eagle's lead guitarist) solo stuff.

If you "love the Band," try Little Feat, Marshall Tucker, Jeff Beck, early Tom Petty, Charlie Daniels, Jackson Browne, any Eric Clapton *band*, maybe Hot Tuna, maybe CCR, who always kind of struck me as kind of The Band but designed for pop radio. Short toe-tappers, but rockin toe-tappers. Neil Young, any of the C/S/N/Y derivatives are less rock, more country, but still great. Graham Parsons, The Byrds. Poco, Flying Burrito Brothers, although they're both kind of Eagles-y. Maybe try some electric Bob Dylan?

And on preview, yeah, you really have to listen to Led Zeppelin if you never have. Somewhat shocking to be honest!
posted by jckll at 11:07 AM on March 23, 2010

I just want shit that sounds epic, and stoned and horribly [awesomely] 70s--how did i miss this shit.

Yeah, I'll join the chorus suggesting Led Zeppelin. Try "When the Levee Breaks."
posted by sallybrown at 11:09 AM on March 23, 2010

Best answer: Bob Seger
Neil Young
The Doobie Brothers
Kris Kristofferson
Warren Zevon
posted by willnot at 11:10 AM on March 23, 2010

You might also try the "Dazed and Confused" soundtracks. Which, oddly, do not include "Dazed and Confused".
posted by Thorzdad at 11:11 AM on March 23, 2010

Although not hard rock, you might like Bitches Brew.
posted by SNACKeR at 11:13 AM on March 23, 2010

I'm going to third Joe Walsh (NOT the Eagles stuff); I've been listening through '70s rock all year, and his stuff is just head and shoulders above everything else. You know he's got something going on when all the other '70s rock guitarists cite him as their biggest influence.
posted by Aquaman at 11:18 AM on March 23, 2010

Best answer: Here's what iTunes Genius comes up with for me when I feed it "Jet Airliner":

Tom Petty, Damn the Torpedoes
Eagles, Hotel California
Allman Brothers, Brothers and Sisters
Foreigner, "Feels Like the First Time"
Creedence Clearwater Revival, Willy and the Poor Boys
Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IV
The Band, Music from the Big Pink
Bachman-Turner Overdrive, "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"
The Doors, The Doors
Jethro Tull, "Aqualung"
The Kinks, "Lola"
Golden Earring, "Radar Love"
The Guess Who, "American Woman"

So on and so forth, but that's a pretty good sampling.
posted by lore at 11:19 AM on March 23, 2010

Oh, and this is the first time I've ever heard Steve Miller referred to as "hard rock." Wikipedia suggests "Heartland rock," "blues-rock," and for some reason "art rock." When it was being produced I think it was just called "rock." Anyhow, Wikipedia has some more possible acts for you listed under heartland rock.
posted by lore at 11:23 AM on March 23, 2010

Lynyrd Skynyrd and Peter Framptom deserve some attention as well.
posted by jquinby at 11:24 AM on March 23, 2010

Jefferson Airplane. Try White Rabbit and Somebody to Love.
posted by runningwithscissors at 11:26 AM on March 23, 2010

T. Rex?
posted by electroboy at 11:27 AM on March 23, 2010

...Peter Frampton, rather.
posted by jquinby at 11:27 AM on March 23, 2010

Thin Lizzy
Blue Cheer
posted by Cheesoning at 11:37 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

It might be a little early, but Gram Parsons's two solo albums really have that mellow vibe.
posted by notsnot at 11:44 AM on March 23, 2010

Steve Miller-wise, you might also like Swingtown.
So many great Queen songs to choose from, but if you're looking for hard rock, start with Tie Your Mother Down.
I was in high school during the 1970s, and some of the biggest hits among the, well, the stoners (we didn't call them metal heads back then) were Bad Company's Feel Like Making Love, Rick Derringer's Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo, and Black Sabbath's Paranoid.
posted by Oriole Adams at 11:44 AM on March 23, 2010

Around this time last year, I must have had the same switch in my head get flipped and suddenly I was totally in to 70s rock. I blame a combination of too much Rock Band and this AskMe question.

If you haven't yet, I suggest going to Pandora and putting in the names of a few songs you like. You can then tailor the resulting playlist to your taste, which makes it really easy to figure out what artists to look for at the used record stores.

As for artists, +nthing Led Zeppelin, CCR, Grand Funk, and Cream. Also consider Sabbath and The Who. For newer acts you may have missed, Wolfmother and any one of Jack White's many, many bands.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:49 AM on March 23, 2010

Big Star.
posted by WeekendJen at 11:57 AM on March 23, 2010 [1 favorite]

Faces, +1. Ignore what Rod Stewart became, the Faces were a great band.
For Joe Walsh, go back to the James Gang. 'Y'er Album' is a classic. Led Zep?! If you don't know Led Zep...shoot, I'd start at the beginning, with their first album. Not country, but hard hard blues/rock.

I'm a big fan of Humble Pie, the band Frampton was in before he went solo. 'Rock On' is probably their best, with 'Smokin'' a close second.

Neil Young: yes, of course. For country rock, 'Everybody Knows This is Nowhere' is a good place to start, followed by 'Harvest'.

Final recommendation, a bit far afield from country rock (though some of their early stuff has a heavy Dylan/Band influence) would be the great English band, Mott the Hoople. Some samples:
You Really Got Me (Kinks cover)
Jerkin' Crocus
Walking With a Mountain
posted by Bron at 12:09 PM on March 23, 2010

Early Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers sounds very different from the more familiar MTV-era stuff. More bluesy and swampy. Check out Dog on the Run, , Fooled Again, or Surrender.
posted by frobozz at 12:24 PM on March 23, 2010

I don't know if you're reading down here, but it sounds like you MUST MUST MUST see the movie Heavy Metal. There is nothing more (late) 70's-rock-stoner out there. The trippiness starts at 1:30 in, and really doesn't ever stop. Also at 3:00 in you can see all the bands that contributed to the soundtrack.
posted by forforf at 12:33 PM on March 23, 2010

You'd like the great '90s Philly bar band called Go To Blazes. (iTunes link)
posted by nicwolff at 12:44 PM on March 23, 2010

Slade. And you should start getting your fashion tips from that video.
posted by The corpse in the library at 1:05 PM on March 23, 2010

Take the money and run (not the orig. vid.) by Steve Miller definitely has an outlaw bent.
posted by Hardcore Poser at 1:48 PM on March 23, 2010

...I just want shit that sounds epic, and stoned and horribly 70s...

Joe Walsh - Rocky Mountain Way
posted by xod at 1:53 PM on March 23, 2010

Led Zeppelin I (all of it, especially You Shook Me) & might as well add Led Zep II
Derek & the Dominos - Layla & Other Lovesongs (the whole album, not just Layla)
Jethro Tull - Benefit & Stand Up
Janis Joplin - Cheap Thrills
Blind Faith
Little Feat - Goodbye Columbus
Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers & Exile on Main Street
Fleetwood Mac - the Peter Green band, before Buckingham/Nicks
The London Howling Wolf Sessions
posted by Pressed Rat at 2:10 PM on March 23, 2010

Nthing Led Zeppelin and Foghat right up to & especially including Stone Blue.
Deep Purple (Pretty much anything if you ask me, but especially Fireball, Machine Head, Who Do We Think We Are?, and Burn)
KISS - Pretty much anything up through Alive II, although I can imagine having a hard time listening to the lyrics with a straight face if I hadn't grown up with them. And not knowing that Gene Simmons is kind of a repugnant human being)
AC/DC - hard to go wrong with anything they did in the 70's with Bon Scott and into the mid-80's with Brian Johnson
Queen - News of the World (forget how many times you've heard We Will Rock you and We are the Champions, it's a wonderful, wonderful album)

More recent and noteworthy acts that have carried the torch for riff-based, plain old rock & roll:
Super 400
Big Sugar (Sadly, defunct)
Masters of Reality, particularly their album Sunrise on the Sufferbus (Sadly, the only album of theirs that Ginger Baker played on)
Queens of the Stone Age
Them Crooked Vultures (Ignore the stupid "supergroup" hype, but know that there's DNA from Led Zeppelin, Queens of the Stone Age, Foo Fighters, and Eleven - their debut is one of those albums that feels like you've been listening to it for years.)
posted by usonian at 2:50 PM on March 23, 2010

I like a lot of the outlaw country in the 70s that came from rock.

The Outlaws
posted by clearly at 3:17 PM on March 23, 2010

Response by poster: okay, from the bottom:

i don't like foo fighters
i love feel good hit of the summer, but am unsure of the rest of QOTSA
big sugar ftw!
i bought two led zep albums today, 4 and Physical Graffiti and will report back.
janis is great, as is most of the la county country people are recommending.

which little feat albums?
which joe walsh albums>

i only really know Exile via Liz Phair, so that is in the cart, though I really like some of the classic stones cuts.

Mott the Hoople is great, but a little Bowie, no?
Is there a good greatest hits for queen?
Is there any Frampton aside from the live album

Of the Youtube Videos:
Things that are awesome
Free Ride is great except for the last two minutes
The Outlaws
the ooh ooh bits of take the money and run
Don't Get Fooled Again
Black Sabbath Paranoid

Things that are meh:
Super 400
Bad Company--Feel Like Making Love
posted by PinkMoose at 4:18 PM on March 23, 2010

Television? It's a little more prog, but still good stuff.
posted by electroboy at 4:32 PM on March 23, 2010

Boston (not so country but pretty rockin') Don't Look Back & Foreplay/Long Time (if you're not into prog skip to 2:30).
posted by mia_farrow at 4:57 PM on March 23, 2010

shit that sounds epic, and stoned and horribly 70s

Not exactly Outlaw, but Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" certainly fits the above description. That's what all my friends listened to in the 70's while stoned, along with Emerson Lake and Palmer, Yes, Rush (2112), Frank Zappa, Ted Nugent, Peter Frampton (Frampton Comes Alive!), AC/DC's Highway to Hell and Back in Black, and Aerosmith (Rocks).
posted by MexicanYenta at 5:32 PM on March 23, 2010

Joe Walsh: But Seriously, Folks...
posted by jeremias at 6:18 PM on March 23, 2010

Best answer: which little feat albums?

My general rule is the earlier the better. All of the first 3 on this list are amazing and fun, especially their 1971 debut, which allmusic calls "one of the great lost rock & roll albums." Perfect stoner country-rock.

which joe walsh albums

I'd start with his James Gang stuff first, especially James Gang Rides Again, which has the monster hit Funk #49 and lots more, but Yer' Album's pretty great, too.

A lot of what you're looking for came out in 68-69, including early Steve Miller stuff like the great Brave New World. For Zeppelin, all of the first 6 records are essential. For the Stones, the classic middle period records are Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Exile on Main Street and Sticky Fingers. Creedence Clearwater Revival from 1969-70 is some of the best stoned roots rock ever; start with Willy and the Poor Boys, Green River or Cosmo's Factory.
posted by mediareport at 8:44 PM on March 23, 2010

Mott the Hoople is great, but a little Bowie, no?

Not sure what you mean by that, since for epic stoned 70s it's kind of hard to beat the Ziggy Stardust album. But if Bowie-ness bugs you, try the albums Mott the Hoople did pre- and post-Bowie: 1973's Mott- song after song of epic rock with sharp lyrics - and 1971's somewhat less good but still pretty fucking good Brain Capers.
posted by mediareport at 9:01 PM on March 23, 2010

Bruuuuuce! I don't consider Springsteen to be "hard rock" but Thunder Road is my favorite rock song of the 70s - maybe ever.
posted by kbar1 at 11:45 PM on March 23, 2010

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