March 15, 2010 11:23 AM   Subscribe

Why can't I find comprehensive stats on the NCAA Div I?

For years I've used a simple technique for filling out my March Madness brackets (comparing PF-PA. Don't tell anyone.) For some reason I can't find a comprehensive list of stats this year. I've found sites that probably have all the info, but it's all broken down by conference. What happened?
posted by ChurchHatesTucker to Sports, Hobbies, & Recreation (9 answers total)
Are you comparing each head-to-head match up [PF-PA for seed #8 vs. PF-PA for seed #9] or are you looking for a big list of all the NCAA teams all together?

ESPN's brackets have blurbs for each team that you can compare every game side by side and see each of the 64's PPG & opponent-PPG.

If that's not what you want, perhaps searching for PPG would get better results?
posted by yeti at 12:21 PM on March 15, 2010

This may be what you're looking for.
posted by netbros at 1:00 PM on March 15, 2010

Netbros, still broken down by conference (and other things.)

Yeti, ideally I'd have a list that could be munged into a spreadsheet, calculate a simple PF-PA operation, and just use that to compile my rankings (I never win with this, but I'm usually in competition until about the final four.)

Every other time I've done this, I've had little difficulty in finding a large data dump of Div 1 stats. I think it's bizarre that I can't now. I'm almost more interested in finding why that is.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 1:08 PM on March 15, 2010

Apologies, Netbros, that's not broken out by conference (it's one of the sites I visited before and confused it with another.) But it has odd figures that they don't explain, so I'm not sure how to use them.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 1:12 PM on March 15, 2010

Is this not what you're looking for? It breaks down total points scored, points scored/game, total points allowed and points allowed/game by team.

If not, I'm not sure what you're asking for. Can you be more specific?
posted by jckll at 1:23 PM on March 15, 2010

Yeah, I saw that one, Jckll, but when they introduce decimals I assume I'm not dealing with raw data.

What I used to be able to find was a chart of the entire Div 1 season, with wins, losses, PF, PA, etc. broken out into columns. Essentially, the big stats of the past season as a spreadsheet. This is the first year that I haven't been able to find that.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 1:30 PM on March 15, 2010

Well, PPG (the one with decimals) is just points scored / games played.

Kansas, for instance, scored 2780 total points and played 34 games. 2780/34 = 81.8. Not sure why decimals would make you think it's an estimate or something...

Are you looking for game-by-game data? (EG Kansas played Kansas St on XX/XX/2010 and won 71-61?) I guess I'm still not clear on exactly what you want.
posted by jckll at 1:39 PM on March 15, 2010

Yeah, I figured it was something like that. I'm looking for the base numbers, PF and PA specifically.

More importantly at this point, I'm wondering why those spreadsheet-style stat sheets are suddenly so difficult to find.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 4:24 PM on March 15, 2010

Aha! This is what I was looking for.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 6:19 PM on March 17, 2010

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