What jobs are outhere for Bachelor of Arts and Science and for Master of Arts and Science degree?
October 7, 2009 12:30 PM Subscribe
Here is my dillema:
I am in junior shool year on prominent public college in my area. My intentions is to get bachleor of science in education (social studies and history). Lately, they cahanged some course work and now they ask for at least three semester of foreign language in addition. This may extend my schooling time and I am not ready for it.
But after my adviserment, I have been offered the Bacheor of Arts and Science in short time. Plus, I was told that to get the master degree it would take me about 2-3 semesters additionaly if I wanted to continue to pursue Master of Arts and Science.
Now, what are the jobs outhere for me with either Bachelor Arts and Science or Master of Science and Arts degree?
Please?
Response by poster: Honestly, I was with an advisor who could not answer me whether I do qualify of not for the degree in the old system.
Plus, I will talk to head department soon about my possible grandfathering for bachelor of science in education.
So, I am interested in what if I do not qualify, what options for jobs I do have with my Bachelor of Arts and Science degree.
posted by xmradio03 at 12:48 PM on October 7, 2009
Plus, I will talk to head department soon about my possible grandfathering for bachelor of science in education.
So, I am interested in what if I do not qualify, what options for jobs I do have with my Bachelor of Arts and Science degree.
posted by xmradio03 at 12:48 PM on October 7, 2009
As I understand it, most people who get degrees in education plan to become teachers.
posted by box at 12:53 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by box at 12:53 PM on October 7, 2009
What advil said. Usually when the curriculum is changed like this, the students who are in their Junior year or higher are given an exception under the old curriculum standard. Aren't there any classmates who are in the same situation? Perhaps they have heard something you haven't.
As far as jobs available to Art and Science majors... In my experience it depends on your specialization. So I'm not sure what a basic major would be best qualified for.
Do a lot of investigation through your advising and career counseling service at the school. There has to be a way for you to finish with your orginal intended degree on time.
posted by Kimothy at 12:56 PM on October 7, 2009
As far as jobs available to Art and Science majors... In my experience it depends on your specialization. So I'm not sure what a basic major would be best qualified for.
Do a lot of investigation through your advising and career counseling service at the school. There has to be a way for you to finish with your orginal intended degree on time.
posted by Kimothy at 12:56 PM on October 7, 2009
1) What geographical area are you in? That will make a big difference in the answers you get.
2) Could you explain exactly what your options are again? I get that your original plan was to get a B.S. in Education, but what would your B.A.S. degree be in? (I didn't even know about the existence of B.A.S. degrees until I googled it based on your question. Yay - I learned something today.)
3) No offense intended, but is English a second language for you? You've got more mis-spellings and grammatical mistakes than you have sentences in your post. If you are aiming for a teaching job in an English speaking country, you'll need to work on your written English skills or the answer to "what are the jobs outhere for me" will probably be "none". (If you are a non-native English speaker looking for a job in a non-English speaking country, then carry on. Your English is still much better than my fluency in any other language.)
posted by tdismukes at 1:03 PM on October 7, 2009
2) Could you explain exactly what your options are again? I get that your original plan was to get a B.S. in Education, but what would your B.A.S. degree be in? (I didn't even know about the existence of B.A.S. degrees until I googled it based on your question. Yay - I learned something today.)
3) No offense intended, but is English a second language for you? You've got more mis-spellings and grammatical mistakes than you have sentences in your post. If you are aiming for a teaching job in an English speaking country, you'll need to work on your written English skills or the answer to "what are the jobs outhere for me" will probably be "none". (If you are a non-native English speaker looking for a job in a non-English speaking country, then carry on. Your English is still much better than my fluency in any other language.)
posted by tdismukes at 1:03 PM on October 7, 2009
I agree with tdismukes that English does not seem to be your native language. Does your school offer classes in your native language? Will they let you test out of the classes? See CLEP tests.
posted by desjardins at 1:15 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by desjardins at 1:15 PM on October 7, 2009
Response by poster: Yes, I am non-English speaker in the US, but also I am on my job right now; therefore, I do not have enough time to write everything in the grammar-correct manner. I appologize for it.
Back to my quesion:
Yes, my intentions were to get the BS in Education degree but because somewhat recent changes in the college curriculum, I am having the second thoughts.
In short, one of the options is to have Bachelor of Arts and Science predominantely in history; plus, I have an option to extend my schooling another year to get my master degree in arts and science.
What jobes can I look for with this degree.
Thanks for your inputs!
PS
Sometimes down the road I plan to get more math credits so I can build my degree to BS in math as a major, and hopefully open an math-tutor service.
posted by xmradio03 at 1:39 PM on October 7, 2009
Back to my quesion:
Yes, my intentions were to get the BS in Education degree but because somewhat recent changes in the college curriculum, I am having the second thoughts.
In short, one of the options is to have Bachelor of Arts and Science predominantely in history; plus, I have an option to extend my schooling another year to get my master degree in arts and science.
What jobes can I look for with this degree.
Thanks for your inputs!
PS
Sometimes down the road I plan to get more math credits so I can build my degree to BS in math as a major, and hopefully open an math-tutor service.
posted by xmradio03 at 1:39 PM on October 7, 2009
Call the registrars office they are deeply involved with graduation and should be able answer that question easily. But advil is right you should read your college catalog from freshman year.Iit should be your contract with the school and unless you take 10+ yrs to graduate everything should stand as written.
posted by Rubbstone at 1:50 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by Rubbstone at 1:50 PM on October 7, 2009
If you plan to go into teaching at a primary or secondary school, a master's degree is an asset as it will move you up the pay scale.
I agree with all of the people above that you should be grandfathered into your old degree program. When I was a sophomore my degree program changed and I was allowed to use the old degree requirements to graduate.
posted by zsazsa at 1:54 PM on October 7, 2009
I agree with all of the people above that you should be grandfathered into your old degree program. When I was a sophomore my degree program changed and I was allowed to use the old degree requirements to graduate.
posted by zsazsa at 1:54 PM on October 7, 2009
You want to know what kind of jobs you can do with a Bachelor's degree in history?
posted by mr_roboto at 1:56 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by mr_roboto at 1:56 PM on October 7, 2009
Response by poster: You want to know what kind of jobs you can do with a Bachelor's degree in history?
Correct
posted by xmradio03 at 2:09 PM on October 7, 2009
Correct
posted by xmradio03 at 2:09 PM on October 7, 2009
If you went for the masters degree, would that also be in history?
posted by tdismukes at 2:24 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by tdismukes at 2:24 PM on October 7, 2009
I got my BA and MA in History (2006/2008). I work in the financial aid office of the school I graduated from. It just sort of happened, and last Thursday was my 1-year hiring anniversary. Sure, the pay sucks and the work is killing me, but I can afford to get drunk every night.
posted by battleshipkropotkin at 2:35 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by battleshipkropotkin at 2:35 PM on October 7, 2009
I have a BA in history. I am working for a university while getting a master's in library science.
posted by nestor_makhno at 2:51 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by nestor_makhno at 2:51 PM on October 7, 2009
Also, even if you're not grandfathered in under the old system, your native language will definitely count towards your second language proficiency anyway.
also, you're english is pretty good, I don't imagine you will have too much difficulty in that department
posted by Think_Long at 2:52 PM on October 7, 2009
also, you're english is pretty good, I don't imagine you will have too much difficulty in that department
posted by Think_Long at 2:52 PM on October 7, 2009
I work at a university (not your university) and I schedule students for classes. They should not be making you take additional classes that were not required when you began your degree, unless you took a semester or more off.
posted by desjardins at 2:56 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by desjardins at 2:56 PM on October 7, 2009
You are describing a non-technical liberal arts Bachelors or Masters degree. The answer that seems to be getting generally avoided but that anyone with a liberal arts degree can confirm is that the possibility of getting a job with your degree that is relevant to your major is very small. There will be few jobs relevant to your field, they will be highly competitive and generally they will command poor compensation in comparison to your level of education. You may be able to teach college courses with a Masters degree (in many positions, however, a PhD will be required). What you will mostly find in the job market with these degrees will be a variety of office jobs in commercial business and the non-profit world where a college degree is a general asset but not particularly relevant to the actual work you do, and the chances are very high that you will end up working in this sort of environment. This is what happens to the overwhelming majority of liberal arts graduates.
posted by nanojath at 3:33 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by nanojath at 3:33 PM on October 7, 2009
A degree in education implies that you plan to become a teacher. You need to meet with someone in the Education Department for advice. In general, you will need a full major in a subject to teach junior or senior high high school due to federal requirements.
posted by tamitang at 3:59 PM on October 7, 2009
posted by tamitang at 3:59 PM on October 7, 2009
Teaching is the normal path for someone with your degree unless you decide that's not what you want. I have a history degree and got certified to teach but found it was not for me. After a stint doing horribly low paying office work I got gainfully employed at an ISP doing Cisco tech support. A computer degree would have far more applicable to what I do for a living now, but I thoroughly enjoyed my humanities classes and feel they have enriched my life.
So I guess what I'm getting at is if you are only concerned with money you should switch majors to something more lucrative and save yourself a step. But if you want to do something personally meaninful to you and money is less important then continue doing what you're doing. Either you will land on your feet or scramble your way into something that works for you.
posted by aperture_priority at 8:11 PM on October 7, 2009
So I guess what I'm getting at is if you are only concerned with money you should switch majors to something more lucrative and save yourself a step. But if you want to do something personally meaninful to you and money is less important then continue doing what you're doing. Either you will land on your feet or scramble your way into something that works for you.
posted by aperture_priority at 8:11 PM on October 7, 2009
Unless you're planning to pursue a PhD in history, or going in to a specialized history Master's program in something like public history (which could lead to museum/preservation type jobs), there aren't really any career paths that open to you by getting a general history masters degree, so I wouldn't bother with the M.A.S. over the B.A.S. no matter how little it adds.
Also "predominately" in history, is that the same as a history major? If it's just a "liberal studies" type degree with a history emphasis, then basically you can apply for any job that requires a bachelors' degree, and it's extremely, extremely unlikely that your job will have anything to do at all with history.
Can you tell us what kind of work you'd like to do? People might have an easier time answering "Can I be X with this general degree" than your current question. Truly, I think the answer to that is "pretty much anything".
posted by donnagirl at 8:15 PM on October 7, 2009
Also "predominately" in history, is that the same as a history major? If it's just a "liberal studies" type degree with a history emphasis, then basically you can apply for any job that requires a bachelors' degree, and it's extremely, extremely unlikely that your job will have anything to do at all with history.
Can you tell us what kind of work you'd like to do? People might have an easier time answering "Can I be X with this general degree" than your current question. Truly, I think the answer to that is "pretty much anything".
posted by donnagirl at 8:15 PM on October 7, 2009
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Just to be clear, you have checked with an advisor in the department and you are not grandfathered in under the old requirements? Degree requirement changes typically do involve grandfathering in current students to the old system, for exactly the reasons you describe.
posted by advil at 12:39 PM on October 7, 2009 [1 favorite]