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April 1, 2009 12:56 PM Subscribe
Despertaly needing some extra income, I've applied to Target for a position unloading trucks at night. I have two concerns. Drugs and money.
I do not do any illicit or illegal drug, and haven't for over six months (pot). I do, however, take a rather low dose of Lithium (300mg daily) as well as Prozac (60 mg), Serequal
Serequal (50mg) and 1-2 mg of Klonopin a day.
Additionally I take massive vitimas and minerals. I inject (MD prescribed) 2 mg of liquid (obviously) B12 every 3 days. Orally I take 10,000 MG of B12, 35 of Niacin,45 MG of B6, a liquid concoction of 130 nutrients and vitamins. 10 ml of cod liver oil, 15 mg of Flaxseed oil, and a quart of sugar free fruit juice.
This is excessive, but temporary. My concern is...the urine/drug test, not only will I pass it, but will I come off as a freakin psyco dude.
And if I can slip this in, I'm used to making a salary. I am supposed to ask them for an hourly wage, which they will meet, offer a comprmise, or just laugh and tell me to hit the highway? What's that kinda job pay in the North East (US)? $15?
This is not as desperate as it might come across, but things will be pretty grim if I don't get a second job.
Advice?
Sorry for the length and the rambling on about me and my rather minor problems. Thanks for any imput.
I do not do any illicit or illegal drug, and haven't for over six months (pot). I do, however, take a rather low dose of Lithium (300mg daily) as well as Prozac (60 mg), Serequal
Serequal (50mg) and 1-2 mg of Klonopin a day.
Additionally I take massive vitimas and minerals. I inject (MD prescribed) 2 mg of liquid (obviously) B12 every 3 days. Orally I take 10,000 MG of B12, 35 of Niacin,45 MG of B6, a liquid concoction of 130 nutrients and vitamins. 10 ml of cod liver oil, 15 mg of Flaxseed oil, and a quart of sugar free fruit juice.
This is excessive, but temporary. My concern is...the urine/drug test, not only will I pass it, but will I come off as a freakin psyco dude.
And if I can slip this in, I'm used to making a salary. I am supposed to ask them for an hourly wage, which they will meet, offer a comprmise, or just laugh and tell me to hit the highway? What's that kinda job pay in the North East (US)? $15?
This is not as desperate as it might come across, but things will be pretty grim if I don't get a second job.
Advice?
Sorry for the length and the rambling on about me and my rather minor problems. Thanks for any imput.
Unloading trucks at Target is pretty much a min. wage labor job. I'd expect no more than $7 or $8/hr.
posted by M.C. Lo-Carb! at 1:06 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by M.C. Lo-Carb! at 1:06 PM on April 1, 2009
The entry wage for Target probably varies a bit but is above $7, under $8. Specialists get a dollar, team leads get another dollar, management is salaried. You will get shift pay for working overnight, which I'm almost certain varies by state. If I recall correctly in Ohio it was time and a half, same as overtime.
The biggest thing that held people back from getting jobs at Target was always scheduling. They sifted through applications looking for people for had full availability. If you can't work weekends, it is unlikely they would hire you.
posted by Juliet Banana at 1:09 PM on April 1, 2009
The biggest thing that held people back from getting jobs at Target was always scheduling. They sifted through applications looking for people for had full availability. If you can't work weekends, it is unlikely they would hire you.
posted by Juliet Banana at 1:09 PM on April 1, 2009
1) They're looking for illegal drugs, and though other things may occasionally produce a false positive, these kind of pharmacological screenings are not designed to reveal everything that's in your system. Indeed, they're calibrated to detect a fairly narrow spectrum of chemicals. If you're concerned about a false positive, get a note from your doctor listing your prescriptions to bring with you for the test. You should probably do that anyways, as the technicians will want to be aware of anything you're on that might interfere with their results. Then stop taking anything you haven't been prescribed, and don't burn one down between then and now. You'll be fine.
2) This, like the vast majority of physical labor jobs, is a wage job. You can expect to make in the neighborhood of $10 to start. Salary is right out. And you're not really in a position to negotiate. This basically the bottom of the employment food chain, with the possible exception of food service. You'll take what they offer or you'll go somewhere else.
posted by valkyryn at 1:09 PM on April 1, 2009
2) This, like the vast majority of physical labor jobs, is a wage job. You can expect to make in the neighborhood of $10 to start. Salary is right out. And you're not really in a position to negotiate. This basically the bottom of the employment food chain, with the possible exception of food service. You'll take what they offer or you'll go somewhere else.
posted by valkyryn at 1:09 PM on April 1, 2009
I should have mentioned, I don't think any specialists work overnight. If you get the job, apply for any team lead job that comes up. There'll be a board in the employee only area listing employment opportunities. Apply for any O/N team lead position that comes up, and keep applying, and eventually you'll get up to the $15 you might be used to.
posted by Juliet Banana at 1:14 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by Juliet Banana at 1:14 PM on April 1, 2009
You misunderstand how drug tests work. They don't show every possible chemical in your system. The way they work (there are several methods of testing, but just in general) is they take your sample and specifically test it for each illegal drug. Typically, they'll only test for really obvious illegal drugs like marijuana, cocaine, opiates and amphetamines. Military and government tests look for more drugs and are more accurate, typical employment tests use the cheapest and least accurate method. They're not looking for crazymeds, and the test doesn't enable them to find them.
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:17 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:17 PM on April 1, 2009
Target pays extra if you work over night, and their base pay depends on the location, most likely. But everyone will probably start with the same salary (except you'll get a dollar more for overnight).
posted by delmoi at 1:18 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by delmoi at 1:18 PM on April 1, 2009
You don't say where in the northeast you are. Somewhere with a higher standard of living (Boston, etc.), they'll start you slightly higher. But, M.C. Lo-Carb is right, you'll be starting around $8/hour. Maybe an extra .50 for the overnight shift. I used to do this for Grand Union/Shaw's, and I got paid quite a bit less than that, but that was several years ago.
posted by General Malaise at 1:28 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by General Malaise at 1:28 PM on April 1, 2009
I used to do this job for Mervyn's (owned by Target) in 2002. As others have said, it is a minimum wage, hourly position. Any false positive on the drug test can be corrected with your physician's note, and it only tests for a limited range of illegal substances.
posted by booknerd at 1:45 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by booknerd at 1:45 PM on April 1, 2009
Applies to the SE:
It's not a minimum wage position, but starting wage is dictated by corporate policy, and it is unlikely you will get them to budge (I have yet to hear a success story). Starting wages here have been driven down over the last few years so good luck negotiating upwards. Either way it pays better than day shift (since you get a $1 offset for overnight shift) and you don't have to deal with customers.
You will be worked like a service animal.
You absolutely will not be salaried, even if you are the second coming of Christ. Only ETLs (executive/management) are salaried.
Super Targets tend to pay lower hourly wages than regular Target stores, but sometimes you can catch a break.
posted by Ziggy Zaga at 1:56 PM on April 1, 2009
It's not a minimum wage position, but starting wage is dictated by corporate policy, and it is unlikely you will get them to budge (I have yet to hear a success story). Starting wages here have been driven down over the last few years so good luck negotiating upwards. Either way it pays better than day shift (since you get a $1 offset for overnight shift) and you don't have to deal with customers.
You will be worked like a service animal.
You absolutely will not be salaried, even if you are the second coming of Christ. Only ETLs (executive/management) are salaried.
Super Targets tend to pay lower hourly wages than regular Target stores, but sometimes you can catch a break.
posted by Ziggy Zaga at 1:56 PM on April 1, 2009
Klonopin is a benzo, and as such will show up on most urine drug screens. The test will mot say which benzo you're taking. The rest of your meds and vitamins will not show up.
posted by LittleMissCranky at 5:32 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by LittleMissCranky at 5:32 PM on April 1, 2009
In 2000, I started at $6.50 as a cashier at a Target on the east coast. I don't think the nightshift guys made much more, if any. After 90 days I got a raise to $6.75, and I think a year later I might've got a raise to $6.80? I haven't really thought about that in years, so I might be off by a few bucks, but I wouldn't expect more than $7.00
posted by Alterscape at 6:01 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by Alterscape at 6:01 PM on April 1, 2009
My little sister works for target. She started at $7.50 in Phoenix, AZ and after over a year there makes $7.85. She said the night people make marginally more, but adults with retail experience should try for lead positions. Good luck! You might want to try chain liquor stores in your area. Since they hire 21+, generally the pay starts higher.
posted by lizjohn at 6:42 PM on April 1, 2009
posted by lizjohn at 6:42 PM on April 1, 2009
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As for the job with Target, I doubt you'll have much latitude to negotiate a wage, at least at first. I think they'll probably tell you what they'll pay you when they formally offer you the job. At that point you can accept it or walk away. There's probably no harm in trying to negotiate a higher hourly wage, but I doubt you'd be successful in this job market.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 1:03 PM on April 1, 2009