Porn question.

Shane — Fri, 04 Feb 2005 05:55:29 -0800

I have some honest questions about porn, inspired by the recent Suicide Girls brouhaha.

PLEASE: CIVIL DISCUSSION AND NO FLAMES! CAN WE DO THAT? WE CAN, RIGHT? Anyone can state their own opinion or knowledge without attacking someone else's contradictory opinion, eh? Thanks! *More inside.* First off, I understand why women objected to semi-nudes on the front page of MeFi. It had an unexpected initial shock value on a site that has many intelligent female members who obviously see tits on the front page as objectification and devaluation of women. I also understand that, to Matt, Suicide Girls is soft-core alternative-porn and much less offensive than mainstream porn close-ups of genitalia in action.

But let's stay COMPLETELY AWAY from the issue of whether SG is appropriate for MeFi or not. DON'T GO THERE.

My questions:

I noticed that some people admitted to liking porn, yet still said that Suicide Girls objectified women, presumably objectifying them for heterosexual men.

But doesn't 95% of porn objectify women for men? In most heterosexual porn the woman is an object to be used by the man for his penetrational pleasure. While the man nearly always receives a bit of fellatio before he goes on to vaginal and anal penetration (in close-up shots), the woman is rarely afforded even a small bit of oral pleasure or any apparent attendency to her needs and desires. She may as well be a rubber doll.

Even porn involving lesbians is almost always aimed at men and involves penetration with a dildo, allowing men to fantasize about penetrational sex without having to look at an actual man's penis. The tiny minority of porn involving lesbians is aimed at a lesbian audience.

So what do lesbians or bisexual females think of Suicide Girls? What kind of porn subject-matter do lesbians (who like porn) like?

Is it contradictory that some people admitted to liking (presumably mainstream, genital-oriented) porn, yet felt that Suicide Girls, which is soft-core photos of nude women, is objectification?

When is a sexually-tantalizing photo of a nude woman (or man) porn and objectification, and when is it soft-core tantalization or erotica?

Suicide Girls, in my opinion, features women with a certain amount of personality and individuality. I'm not a member, nor do I frequent the site, but in perusing it lately I find that when I look at a Suicide Girl I fantasize that she is intelligent, maybe artsy or creative, probably very self-assertive or aggressive ... to me these are the images they project. Is Suicide Girls less objectifying than the normal pictures of bleached blonde, silicon-bloated women in Playboy or on mechanics' calendars, in which the women have all the personality of a Barbie Doll and the only things to fantasize about are, frankly, tits and ass?

When is porn objectification and when is it erotica?

What do gay and bi women think of these subjects?

Do heterosexual women agree that the bulk of heterosexual porn is aimed at a male audience? What type of porn do heterosexual women (who like porn) like?

**Mathowie, if this gets out of hand or you feel it is inappropriate, please delete away. I won't be offended.**

Have you ever dated a Suicide Girl?

orange clock — Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:22:46 -0800

Have you ever dated a Suicide Girl?

I'm attempting to block a single advertisement for the Suicide Girls from BoingBoing.

mecran01 — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:56:37 -0800

I'm attempting to block a single advertisement for the Suicide Girls from BoingBoing.
[MI] I am using OS X 10.3, and the latest preview release of Firefox.

Following the directions http://texturizer.net/firefox/adblock.html here, I'm trying to create a userContent.css file within

~/library/application support/firefox/profiles/blahblah.default/chrome/

that will supposedly block all kinds of advertising based on keywords within urls, etc.

Yet it does not seem to work on *any* site. I've changed the permissions to those of other files in that folder, played around for about two hours, and it ain't working. Has anyone with a similar configuration gotten userContent.css to work? I am going nuts. The url for the SG ad is:

http://boingboing.net/cgi-bin/clicker.cgi?http://suicidegirls.com/?boingboing

And I've also tried inserting wildcards withing userContent.css to block that as well, but no dice. I'd rather not block all images from Boing if possible.

[lightbulb]
I suppose I could use an RSS feed.

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Porn question.

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I'm attempting to block a single advertisement for the Suicide Girls from BoingBoing.