Mail-order nudist family gathering videos. Who makes this stuff and how?

crabintheocean — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:47:04 -0800

What is the relationship between legitimate (?) "naturism/nudism" lifestyles and the pseudo-child-porn industry? I just got a (completely unsolicited) catalog in the mail advertising "nudist lifestyle" videos featuring children and young teenagers doing pretty normal and boring things outdoors, nude, with their nude families.

I think this isn't legally pornography because there doesn't appear to be an sexual element to it. But it does include nude teen gymnastics and some sort of teen beauty pageant, and it's not hard to know the target market for this material.

I can imagine the demand for this stuff is driven by those attracted to children and underage people wanting to be able to look at naked kids without getting into legal trouble.

What's confusing to me is the supply end of this. Where does it come from? I find it hard to believe that all of these pictures of family gatherings and naked frisbee-golf in the brochure I'm looking at have been elaborately staged by clever pedophiles to skirt the law. Hanging out naked is something that some people do without ulterior motives, especially outside the U.S. where it appears much of this is from.

But how does that become a two-hour video of a dozen naked underage girls exploring an ancient Russian castle and then doing gymnastics together which is marketed to Hustler subscribers? I would think that any well-intentioned nudist families would not want videos of their kids sold in this way. So why all the videotaping?

Are porn consumers the intended audience of the original footage or are innocent pictures and films being repurposed? Do the people being filmed (or their parents who arranged it) know about this audience? Are the subjects paid well for their participation, and convince themselves it's not going to be used for this purpose? I'm finding it hard to imagine any other possible market for material that is otherwise no more or less interesting than someone's vacation photos.

Does anyone have any knowledge or pure speculation about how this stuff gets produced? I've never gotten a catalog like this before and it seems really bizarre.

Not that I have any, I swear, but is CGI child porn legal?

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:15:01 -0800

Not that I have any, I swear, but is CGI child porn legal?

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Mail-order nudist family gathering videos. Who makes this stuff and how?

Not that I have any, I swear, but is CGI child porn legal?