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	<title>Comments on: Recommendation for a new (non-itunes) media player</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:10:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Recommendation for a new (non-itunes) media player</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player</link>	
		<description>I need a new media player for music as itunes has finally driven me over the edge.  Does anyone have a good windows-based media player to recommend?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:56:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carillon</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: theiconoclast31</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430773</link>	
		<description>How did it drive you over the edge? What are you looking for in a media player? (For starters, do you need something that can handle video?) Unless you provide details, this will become another &quot;name your favorite media player&quot; thread.&lt;br&gt;
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The complete opposite of iTunes is probably &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foobar2000.org/&quot;&gt;foobar2000&lt;/a&gt;. No hand holding, very customizable, and quick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:10:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: airplain</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430775</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve just been running through some music players (on Windows XP) and arriving back at iTunes. &lt;br&gt;
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Winamp Pro was ok but braindead about organization -- that is, I&apos;m too dumb to use winamp. Windows Media Player has great visualizations but wants to keep you captive. Media Player Classic is too bare. (VLC not tried.) &lt;br&gt;
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Foobar is a bit hard for me, though lots of people are clever enough I&apos;m not. Life is too short.&lt;br&gt;
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iTunes sucks (why oh why won&apos;t it track in the listings what&apos;s playing? Am I too dumb for Steve?) but overall it sucks least for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:19:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>airplain</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ceri richard</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430776</link>	
		<description>Another iTunes-hater here - I switched a year ago to MediaMonkey (also free) and am very happy with it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:20:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ceri richard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ceri richard</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430777</link>	
		<description>Sorry, here&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediamonkey.com/&quot;&gt;link for MediaMonkey&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:21:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ceri richard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Rolandkorn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430785</link>	
		<description>Here is a wiki article on VLC. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player&quot;&gt;VLC WIKI &lt;/a&gt; Ever since i started using VLC i never been disapointed.  I have a rule if VLC cant play it then it cant be played as far as i am concern.  It was VLC that made me a true fan of the open source movement.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:54:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rolandkorn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: arungoodboy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430788</link>	
		<description>Foobar is awesome. It supports tabbed playlists and is mighty fast. Its got a ton of features that you can safely skip over, I usually use it at default settings.&lt;br&gt;
For videos you should use VLC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:58:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430790</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s my rundown of some I&apos;ve used recently...it depends on what you&apos;re looking for.&lt;br&gt;
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Winamp:  Increasingly bloated, but it still does the job, and can have a nice minimal interface if you set it that way.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.un4seen.com/&quot;&gt;XMPlay&lt;/a&gt;: My favourite &quot;Just play the damn MP3&quot; media player.  Bare, but simple and functional.&lt;br&gt;
VLC:  Rolandkorn is pretty much correct.  It &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; play anything.  Pity about it being ugly, play list features sucking, no real media management.&lt;br&gt;
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If you want something that will organize your library, has a built in list of streaming radio / tv stations, allows remote access to your media, has wicked visualizations, then Winamp is still worth a try.&lt;br&gt;
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If you just want something you can throw music files or playlists at and have it &lt;i&gt;work&lt;/i&gt;, try XMPlay.&lt;br&gt;
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If you want a media player that can handle all sorts of weird and wonderful audio and video file formats, but something that is purely functional, try VLC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:02:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: criticalbeaver</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430791</link>	
		<description>At the moment still a little bit bloated and unstable but evolving quickly into something very nice: &lt;a href=&quot;http://getsongbird.com/&quot;&gt;Songbird&lt;/a&gt;. Lots of addons and free software.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:07:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benzo8</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430803</link>	
		<description>Another vote for MediaMonkey, particularly if you have a large collection of music. The scripting facilities make it (almost) infinitely extensible, and even without customisation, it just seems to work intuitively as you&apos;d hope a player would...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:44:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jabberjaw</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430804</link>	
		<description>I use Foobar too.  It takes some elbow grease, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://lifehacker.com/software/media-player/hack-attack-roll-your-own-killer-audio-player-with-foobar2000-245359.php&quot;&gt;here is a link to making it work for you from Lifehacker&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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I read that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_(audio)&quot;&gt;Amarok &lt;/a&gt;is coming out for Windows soon; it kicks ultimate ass on Linux systems, so keep an eye out for it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:44:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moochoo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430813</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;iTunes sucks (why oh why won&apos;t it track in the listings what&apos;s playing? Am I too dumb for Steve?) but overall it sucks least for me.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Mine does track what is currently playing, the only time it doesnt is when im flicking through playlists looking at other tracks.  Then to flick back to tracking i just press cmd+L</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:12:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>moochoo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: winston</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430824</link>	
		<description>I like MediaMonkey</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:38:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>winston</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: benign</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430830</link>	
		<description>nthing foobar</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:42:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benign</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: paisley henosis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430839</link>	
		<description>foobar.  wish a mac version existed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:18:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doctorpiorno</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430865</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m in the Mediamonkey camp and really happy with it. The interface can be a bit intimidating on first glance, with a multitude of icons all over the place, but you can easily hide the bits you&apos;re not using. It&apos;s really good for keeping a large collection of MP3s tidy and neat, with great tagging utilities to boot. It also has the best support for the iPod Classic I have seen so far among Windows-based media players, with the obvious exception of iTunes itself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:52:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: katrielalex</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430872</link>	
		<description>I use winamp and love it. If you used iTunes before you&apos;re probably looking for a media library organisation system as opposed to just a program that will play anything you throw at it (VLC is what you want for that). I remember trying to set up foobar and not being bothered to configure it until it lookes nice. Winamp works out of the box.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:05:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jmnugent</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430899</link>	
		<description>Carillon,&lt;br&gt;
The suggestions you get from this thread are going to be pretty vague and useless unless you give us some specific explanation of 1.) why you hate iTunes and 2.) what features you are looking for (or trying to avoid).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In other words,..there are a variety of media players out there. No doubt some of them are &quot;better&quot; (or possibly &quot;worse&quot;) than iTunes, but everyone has their own personal preferences. What are yours?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:46:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheOnlyCoolTim</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430908</link>	
		<description>Importantly, do you need library features?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I don&apos;t use them personally, and find Winamp the best. It does have library features but I don&apos;t know if they&apos;re any good.&lt;br&gt;
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When I&apos;ve seen people using foobar to play music for a group of friends hanging out, the person who owns the computer ends up having to do most of the music duties because the thing is damn confusing and unintuitive. Could be their configurations.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:52:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TheOnlyCoolTim</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: disorder</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430910</link>	
		<description>nthing foobar2000. It&apos;s amazing. Also nthing pending Windows release of Amarok. I was getting used to Bento (style) in newer versions of Winamp (built-in library, etc), but I always feel like I&apos;m wasting extra display space when it&apos;s open. It always feels a bit clunky to me. I suppose if iTunes is what you&apos;re used to, though, you may not feel the same way about Winamp and it&apos;s &lt;b&gt;very&lt;/b&gt; easy to use.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:55:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>disorder</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: metajc</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430970</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a post at Lifehacker, under their &quot;Hive Five&quot; tag, where loads of people of have recommended different stuff.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Here&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lifehacker.com/396965/best-desktop-media-player&quot;&gt;call for media player recommendations&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Here are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lifehacker.com/397135/five-best-desktop-media-players&quot;&gt;&quot;hive five&quot; or top five, most-popular&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:02:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sinfony</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1430990</link>	
		<description>Foobar all the way.  That Lifehacker guide to it is based on an older version; the current version&apos;s default user interface is very easy to configure and gives you complete control over the interface.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/tomhaley/2731570751/&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; a screengrab of my current setup; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=3706fafa077ef15b2e4e9f6a0d80662e&amp;showtopic=58574&quot;&gt;here&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; a thread from the official forums full of other people&apos;s layouts.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Basically, Foobar is as feature-ful as you want it to be.  It does take a bit of legwork to get everything out of it, but I find that it&apos;s definitely worth it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:25:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sinfony</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anthill</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1431006</link>	
		<description>I enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quinnware.com/&quot;&gt;Quintessential Player&lt;/a&gt; with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quinnware.com/skins.php?skin=218&quot;&gt;this skin&lt;/a&gt;.  It&apos;s winamp-esque, but much cleaner.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:40:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anthill</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ThomThomThomThom</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1431062</link>	
		<description>Nthing MediaMonkey -- it&apos;s fantastic.  I use it to organize a 160gb+ music library without any problems at all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:40:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ThomThomThomThom</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cnc</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/98250/Recommendation-for-a-new-nonitunes-media-player#1431464</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jrmediacenter.com/&quot;&gt;JRiver Media Center &lt;/a&gt;or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediajukebox.com/&quot;&gt;Media Jukebox &lt;/a&gt;if free is important.  It rips, tags, plays and organizes music (and other media).  It supports podcasts and works fine with extremely large libraries.  It will even sync your iPod, (but not the iPhone.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:10:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cnc</dc:creator>
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