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	<title>Comments on: What is the very cheapest way to get high-speed internet in the Sunset district of SF?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:47:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: What is the very cheapest way to get high-speed internet in the Sunset district of SF?</title>
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		<description>What is the very cheapest way to get high-speed internet in the Sunset district of SF? In our place in Montreal we pay 40/month Canadian, and I know there are cheaper plans. Everything I could find in SF is at least 45 USD/month and generally more, unless you have a cable connection. My sis just moved there, has a very low budget and no cable connection. Thoughts?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:25:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jasper411</title>
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		<description>I live over in the Sunnyside (94112) and use &lt;a href=&quot;http://promotions.yahoo.com/sbc/static/index.html?.u_vers=&amp;.u_tn=&amp;.u_status=&amp;.u_reasonCode=&amp;.u_done=&amp;.u_lb=og&amp;.u_c=1&quot;&gt;SBC/Yahoo DSL&lt;/a&gt;, and I&apos;ve been satisfied with it.  For residential customers it looks like they have a $27/month deal for the first year.</description>
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		<title>By: fishfucker</title>
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		<description>yeah, ~$50 USD is going to be the going rate around there. almost every time I&apos;ve looked into indie providers, i found they don&apos;t really compete on price, but are able to compete on services. Thing is, you&apos;d be lucky to find anything cheaper than $50. The SBC is probably going to be the cheapest deal for her. &lt;br&gt;
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When I lived there I spent a lot of time in wireless internet cafes (some of which are free -- there&apos;s a lot less now, because one of the providers there switched from &quot;free&quot; to &quot;pay per month/day&quot;) but even then, you figure you&apos;re paying at least $1.45 each time (because you&apos;re buying coffee) and that works out to around 45 or so a month anyways. The San Francisco Public Library has free internet access jacks, but last I was there they only had 4 of them hooked up (lame, because ALL the tables are wired for ethernet, they just haven&apos;t hooked them in); and if you get there at the wrong time, you&apos;ll never be able to use it.&lt;br&gt;
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of course, if she doesn&apos;t have a laptop, this isn&apos;t even an option.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:26:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fishfucker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: trbrts</title>
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		<description>The absolute cheapest way would to see if there are any open wifi connections within range of her house.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:05:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caitlinb</title>
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		<description>trbrts, there are groups (actually one in the Sunset, if I remember right) that are interested in providing free wireless in neighborhoods, but it&apos;s pretty rare that open routers stay open for long; this is a pretty saavy populace. Also the providers, except for Speakeasy, are absolutely opposed to access passed on to people who are not their customers, so it&apos;s an open question whether such spots will stay open.&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s just plain expensive around here. (I&apos;m in 94117.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:48:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
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		<description>I doubt you&apos;ll get a good deal out of the cable company.  They&apos;ve just spent a gazillion dollars to try to get into the market, after ignoring it for 6 or 7 years -- they&apos;ve got a lot of costs to recoup and the various incarnations of SF&apos;s cable company (Viacom, TCI, Comcast) have no reputation whatsoever for setting reasonable prices.&lt;br&gt;
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You&apos;ll be wanting DSL, and the cheap stuff comes from the phone company, SBC/PacBell.  Barring some of the weird line sharing that exists in some neighborhoods, there shouldn&apos;t be anywhere in the city that DSL is unavailable, although surely there will be spots where you can&apos;t have the highest speed tiers.  Be aware that cheap DSL usually means PPPoE rather than bridged IP, which is generally a Bad Thing (or at least annoying).&lt;br&gt;
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Depending on where you&apos;ll be (the Sunset is &lt;i&gt;vast&lt;/i&gt;) you &lt;a href=&quot;http://woody.archive.org/nagios/cgi-bin/statusmap.cgi&quot;&gt;might be able&lt;/a&gt; to pick up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/web/sflan.php&quot;&gt;SFLan&lt;/a&gt;, the largest free wireless network.  Coverage is spotty at best, but &quot;free&quot; is definitely cheap!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:17:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>majick</dc:creator>
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