Comments on: What is the best approach to reproducible color management?

Question: What is the best approach to reproducible color management?

teem — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:08:23 -0800

What is the best approach to color management? I only just realised that how I see my photos in iPhoto, Photoshop, and Safari isn't how the majority of people on the net are seeing them? What is the best setup for consistent color management that still looks good?

Example: Smitten Kitchen versus Use real butter. Both food blogs (neither one mine) look great in Safari, but in Firefox Use real butter's pictures lose saturation, while Smitten Kitchen's remain brilliant.

What combination of setups should I use in my camera, iPhoto, Photoshop, and browser in order to color manage like Smitten Kitchen?

I read This previous question, but was keen to know if any recommendations have changed now that 2 years have passed.

By: sadiehawkinstein

sadiehawkinstein — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:38:23 -0800

Calibrate your monitor to ensure you're see what others see. Go for RGB color, not CMYK.
Also, make sure you save for web when exporting from Photoshop.

By: teem

teem — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:53:27 -0800

I should amend this with what I'm using:
Nikon E5700
OS X 10.5.3
iPhoto '08 (7.1.3)
Photoshop CS 3
Safari 3.1.1, Firefox 2

I think I've got some at least workable handle on how to do this with Photoshop, but I'd especially like advice on how to do this with iPhoto — it's so simple importing to iPhoto, fiddling with colours there, and exporting directly to flickr without opening Photoshop.

By: cedar

cedar — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:14:06 -0800

I've always gone with Adobe sRGB as a colorspace.

I calibrate my monitor to it, Photoshop just does it and it pretty much works. I say "pretty much" because that is the best you get, you have no way of telling what other people see and how *their* monitors display color.

Are you shooting RAW? If so, you might want to consider dropping it down a notch and going with JPEG. For online use, and even moderately sized prints, the conversion may not be worth the time and just adds another level of complexity.

Either way, I would remove iPhoto from the picture. Download directly to your hd and edit in Photoshop. At least that's what I do. And, for what it's worth, your pictures look fantastic on this Windows crate.

By: bradbane

bradbane — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:19:18 -0800

You should convert to sRGB when you save for web, that is the assumed color space. Safari is actually unique in that it will actually look at the attached color profile (instead of ignoring it like every other browser).

And obviously if your monitor isn't calibrated you won't be seeing accurate color to begin with. The Pantone Huey's are cheap and work well.

By: Thorzdad

Thorzdad — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:32:40 -0800

Also, remember that, no matter how perfectly you calibrate your system, anything you post online is going to be viewed by people without calibrated systems. And they are, generally, clueless as to just how wrong their displays are. This is especially frustrating when dealing with clients (or bosses) who just won't accept that their nifty new flatscreen is a color-fidelity basketcase.

FWIW, on my calibrated system, the images on the SmittenKitchen site appear fairly similarly in both Safari and FF. However, the RealButter images are decidedly pumped-up in the red in FF.

By: kindall

kindall — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:04:19 -0800

The conversion to sRGB is the most important thing. Adobe RGB (a common colorspace used for editing) looks very washed-out when displayed in a non-color-managed application. I frankly don't understand why Photoshop's "Save for Web" doesn't have an option to do this, it's so important.

If you want to make Mac users happy, embed the sRGB color profile when you save a JPEG. It isn't worth it for all graphics, since the profile will make it a bit larger, but this gives them the ability to display it with the proper gamma. (Mac and PC default gammas are different.)

By: galaksit

galaksit — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:31:08 -0800

Firefox 3 now supports embedded ICC profiles, but you have to turn it on.