Comments on: External hard drive keeps waking up

Question: External hard drive keeps waking up

one_bean — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:15:24 -0800

Why does my external hard drive (OS X) keep spinning up?

I have a Mac Mini connected to a Lacie external hard drive. I've had them for about a year and a half, but about two weeks ago, the hard drive started spinning up every two minutes or so. All the time. How should I go about investigating this?

By: mkb

mkb — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:29:49 -0800

It's probably a file access to something on that drive. If you can get the timing right, using the lsof command should discover what process is reading or writing to that disk.

By: gyusan

gyusan — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:47:51 -0800

Did you enable "time machine" using that drive? I did recently, and that drive talks to itself all the time now.

By: one_bean

one_bean — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:53:54 -0800

Still running Tiger, no Time Machine.

lsof looks like the right track -- is there an option to output only files in use on a specific drive?

By: Fuzzy Skinner

Fuzzy Skinner — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:06:31 -0800

Do you have Google Desktop or Spotlight indexing the drives? (Check System Prefs)

Do you have a Mozy account? (I forgot about mine and couldn't figure out why something I was doing slowed down.)

By: webhund

webhund — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:07:28 -0800

Check Spotlight preferences and make sure under the "Privacy" tab that the external drive is listed to be excluded from Spotlight searches (a good solution if you're using the external as backup only; not a good solution if you need to run Spotlight on the external).

By: one_bean

one_bean — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:17:17 -0800

I like the Spotlight idea -- it won't let me exclude anything on the drive (which makes me think it's not indexing it), but I do have an alias to that drive in another folder on the main drive. I excluded that. Guess I'll twiddle my thumbs for awhile and see if it starts up again.

By: advil

advil — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:34:00 -0800

is there an option to output only files in use on a specific drive?

"lsof | grep DRIVENAME", where DRIVENAME is the name of the drive as represented in /Volumes/. But, something like spotlight won't show up this way.

By: bottlebrushtree

bottlebrushtree — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:25:20 -0800

You might want run lsof with the "-r" opotion. This will repeatedly call lsof and can help you catch something that accesses a file only periodically

lsof -r | grep DRIVENAME > files.txt

You can then review the text file called files.txt to check out the results.

control-c will stop the collection of the data and get you back to the command prompt

By: one_bean

one_bean — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:09:16 -0800

Still spinning after the Spotlight attempt. I'll let the lsof command run for a while (thanks! Seems like I use *nix just enough to remember and promptly forget the grep command). Are there other services like Spotlight that won't show up under lsof?

By: advil

advil — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:19:26 -0800

Are there other services like Spotlight that won't show up under lsof?

Spotlight will show up in some form (I don't know exactly what the process name would be) under bottlebrushtree's version, when it is accessing the drive; I just meant that because it might not access the drive continuously, the odds are you wouldn't see it on a single run of lsof (I didn't know about the -r option).

By: one_bean

one_bean — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:44:27 -0800

Argh. It's still spinning up, but nothing shows up in lsof. I did test the command ahead of time by accessing some files on the drive, which did appear under the command, but since then it's been spinning up all night and nothing reported. Anything else I can try? Thanks for all the help so far.

By: Lanark

Lanark — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:20:05 -0800

Adding a volume to the Privacy settings for Spotlight creates a file '_exclusions.plist' in the volume's '.Spotlight-V100' directory
e.g.
/Volumes/Your_hard_drive/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Exclusions.plist

Therefore every time spotlight starts up, it will read that file, realise theres nothing to do and immediately stop, of course reading that one file will spin up the drive and it will continue spinning for 10 minutes until power saving spins it down again.

Therefore I think you have 2 choices, either unmount the drive when you don't want to use it, by ejecting it in finder or disable Spotlight completely, this page has a bunch of tips about disabling and Rebuilding Spotlight indices

By: one_bean

one_bean — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:15:27 -0800

Marked best answers as the most likely to help other people with the same problem. Hard drive is still spinning up, so I'm just ejecting it and re-mounting (through the disk utility) when I need it. Frustrating, but better than nothing.

By: one_bean

one_bean — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:15:49 -0800

...and thanks for all the great suggestions.

By: CipherSwarm

CipherSwarm — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:46:04 -0800

It's Spotlight. I have all my external drives excluded for just this reason. I'm hoping it gets fixed soon. I've filed a bug with Apple for it, but can't really tell what's going on with it. It's pretty prevalent, though, so my hopes are high.