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	<title>Comments on: Adobe sans-serif</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:36:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Adobe sans-serif</title>
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		<description>If you could pick one sans-serif family from Adobe, what would it be and why? I am trying to branch out from the Myriad Pro I got free with InDesign.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:23:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Foam Pants</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: muscat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350773</link>	
		<description>ack! Buy the full helvetica neue set from linotype. Helvetica is the epitome of the evolution of the letterform... the greatest typeface ever designed and the only one you ever need to use for anything, ever.&lt;br&gt;
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Unless you need a serif, in which case you should use Sabon.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:36:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>muscat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Brandon Blatcher</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350777</link>	
		<description>Univers or Frutiger. Solidly sexy.&lt;br&gt;
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But I&apos;d branch out from the Adobe family also. There&apos;s tons and tons and tons of great fonts, most of them not with Adobe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:37:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Blatcher</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kidbritish</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350778</link>	
		<description>If I were looking for versatility, I would choose Univers. (Frutiger or Helvetica could serve the same purpose).&lt;br&gt;
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As far as fonts that I personally LIKE, without regard for utility, I would go with Trade Gothic. (Optima and Futura are runners up).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:39:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kidbritish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: muscat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350790</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Univers or Frutiger. Solidly sexy.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Frutiger is too close to myriad and univers is just an attempt to upstage helvetica that falls short.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:46:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>muscat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: muscat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350796</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Trade Gothic. (Optima and Futura&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I think of Trade Gothic  as the &quot;American Helvetica&quot;... It is nice, but it has a limited set of weights. Optima is one of the most disgusting typefaces ever designed and futura is a cartoon.&lt;br&gt;
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I may do this all day. Mods, beware. I am a helvetica evangelist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:49:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>muscat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kidbritish</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350806</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Optima is one of the most disgusting typefaces ever designed&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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What is disgusting about Optima?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:55:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kidbritish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350815</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d suggest either Helvetica or Univers. They are my two sans-serif workhorses.&lt;br&gt;
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On the other hand, if you wanted to go with a non-Adobe choice, I heartily recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.typography.com/fonts/font_overview.php?productLineID=100008&quot;&gt;Gotham&lt;/a&gt; by Hoefler &amp;amp; Frere-Jones. Verrrry nice font family.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:02:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thorzdad</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Optimus Chyme</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350817</link>	
		<description>1) Univers&lt;br&gt;
2) Trade Gothic&lt;br&gt;
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But if you&apos;re going to be buying fonts, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.typography.com/&quot;&gt;Hoefler &amp;amp; Frere-Jones&lt;/a&gt; is doing (or licensing) some of the best work out there right now.  Gotham, Whitney, and Knockout are simply outstanding.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:02:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Optimus Chyme</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kryptondog</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350823</link>	
		<description>Futura is great, but it might have a bit too much &quot;personality&quot; if you&apos;re planning on using it for a bunch of stuff.&lt;br&gt;
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If I were buying and I could just pick one, I&apos;d go with Frutiger or ITC Stone Sans.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kryptondog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chelseagirl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350824</link>	
		<description>I vote Univers!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:09:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chelseagirl</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Blazecock Pileon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350826</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;What is disgusting about Optima?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Not disgusting, but it is somewhat dated. Use only for emergency ironic references to Expo &apos;67 perhaps.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:11:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Blazecock Pileon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: muscat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350834</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;What is disgusting about Optima?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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There&apos;s too much crap going on. Its too fussy... almost prissy. Tries to be elegant and ends up wearing costume jewelery. Someone should tell McCain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:15:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>muscat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 0217174</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350838</link>	
		<description>My favorite typefaces are helvetica, futura, gill sans mt.. I&apos;m not sure if Gill is available from adobe though?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:20:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deern the headlice</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350847</link>	
		<description>Another vote for Gotham.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:25:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krautland</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350860</link>	
		<description>univers, hands down.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:35:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>krautland</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: beckish</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350862</link>	
		<description>trade gothic&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m also liking FF Din but that&apos;s not adobe and it&apos;s not good for everything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:37:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>beckish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: idiotfactory</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350865</link>	
		<description>Identifont has similar fonts to myriad listed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.identifont.com/find?font=myriad&amp;q=Go&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; that you could try instead.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:42:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>idiotfactory</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: moift</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350928</link>	
		<description>Univers &amp;gt; Helvetica because Helvetica&apos;s minor celebrity has made it the designerly equivalent of a default, like Times New Roman for people with a clue, so it usually comes off as a bit lazy and uninspired.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:59:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>moift</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Foam Pants</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1350956</link>	
		<description>Ok, I have to admit the stuff at Hoefler &amp;amp; Frere-Jones  is pretty nice. If the sans-serif goes nicely with Chaparral, it earns extra points.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:38:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Foam Pants</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tlogmer</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1351206</link>	
		<description>Have you looked at Avenir?  It&apos;s by the same designer who did univers and frutiger and is -- in my opinion -- just incredibly beautiful.  (Gotham&apos;s great, too.  It&apos;s the obama campaign font.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:03:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tlogmer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: joeclark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1351237</link>	
		<description>The question is unhelpfully vague. What is the &lt;em&gt;application&lt;/em&gt; for which you intend to use a sansserif font?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:42:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joeclark</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: artdrectr</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1351282</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.identifont.com/show?MB&quot;&gt;Gill Sans&lt;/a&gt; is my go-to sans serif face. Elegant. Yes, it&apos;s available from Adobe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:09:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>artdrectr</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: [insert clever name here]</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1351348</link>	
		<description>I was going to suggest Avenir, but Tlogmer beat met too it. I&apos;ve been digging it lately. Just different enough from the old standbys but not wildly different in such a way to be distracting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 04:57:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>[insert clever name here]</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: joeclark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1351577</link>	
		<description>I see I&apos;m not going to get an answer to my question and people are just gonna nominate whatever font they like at the moment irrespective of Foam Pants&apos;s (unexplained) actual need.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:44:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joeclark</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Optimus Chyme</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/92238/Adobe-sansserif#1357945</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I see I&apos;m not going to get an answer to my question and people are just gonna nominate whatever font they like at the moment irrespective of Foam Pants&apos;s (unexplained) actual need.&lt;br&gt;
posted by joeclark at 12:44 PM on May 24&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Most of the type families listed above are versatile; if he wants some real wonk-style discussion he can always head over to typophile.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:41:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Optimus Chyme</dc:creator>
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