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	<title>Comments on: Regaining Access to a Fairly Old Encrypted PDF?</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:02:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Regaining Access to a Fairly Old Encrypted PDF?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF</link>	
		<description>Is there a way that I can access some very old PDF files that are encrypted with a password I cannot remember any longer?  I have a system running Mac OS X (Leopard), and I do need to do the decryption myself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; These files are indeed my property and owned by me, so this question isn&apos;t the setup for a crack.&lt;br&gt;
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I can&apos;t seem to locate the originator of these PDFs on the Internet any longer (unsurprising as these files are very old), so obtaining the password from them isn&apos;t an option.  And the files are old enough that if I did keep the password anywhere, it&apos;s utterly gone now.&lt;br&gt;
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And it&apos;s very possible the files may have content that is somewhat private in nature, which rules out the possibility of having another party do the decryption.&lt;br&gt;
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Although it&apos;s not the very top of the line, I do have a Core Duo 2 Intel iMac with two gig of RAM, so hopefully that&apos;s enough machine to adequately do any number-crunching necessary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:57:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: jozxyqk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342505</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pdfcrack.sourceforge.net/&quot;&gt;pdfcrack&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:02:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zippy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342511</link>	
		<description>Google is your friend: &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=pdf+password+cracker&quot;&gt;pdf password cracker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. I see Elcomsoft in the results, and I remember there was a high profile case a few years ago where &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/cases/us-v-elcomsoft-sklyarov&quot;&gt;Adobe went after their top programmer&lt;/a&gt; for breaking the copy protection on eBooks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:06:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342516</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342511&quot;&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;Google is your friend&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Google is not my friend when the search you recommend returns &lt;i&gt;Windows&lt;/i&gt; applications that crack PDF files.  As the question notes, I own a Mac.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:11:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342520</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342505&quot;&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pdfcrack.sourceforge.net/&quot;&gt;pdfcrack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Thanks.  That looks promising; I look forward to getting home and giving it a try.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:12:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jamaro</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342523</link>	
		<description>You can try opening the file in ColorSync and saving as another file. The resulting PDF will not be password protected but some layouts might get borked.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:13:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jamaro</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342541</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342523&quot;&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;You can try opening the file in ColorSync and saving as another file. The resulting PDF will not be password protected but some layouts might get borked.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I know that that technique used to work, but I thought I remembered hearing it was closed.  Does that technique still work in Leopard?  And if so, which ColorSync application do I open it in?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:28:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jamaro</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342550</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m still using 10.4.x, didn&apos;t know it might have been &apos;fixed&apos; in Leopard, that would be a bummer since I often use it on PDFs sent by forgetful clients. ColorSync Utility.app is the one to pick via control+click Open With.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:37:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342554</link>	
		<description>Thanks, Jamaro.  I will give it a try with ColorSync Utility when I get home before I try pdfcrack, and see if the technique still works.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:40:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samizdata</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1342952</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.processtext.com/abcpdf.html&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; has worked famously for me on multiple occasions, but it is a Windows app.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:13:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1345312</link>	
		<description>Just as an update, Leopard&apos;s ColorSync Utility didn&apos;t make the file viewable.  I&apos;ve had pdfcrack cranking away 24/7 for a number of days now &amp;mdash; it is essentially doing a brute force attack on the files, which is time- and CPU-consuming but, if I&apos;m not mistaken, fairly likely to work.  One thing I&apos;m impressed with is that if you Ctrl-C out of pdfcrack, it notices that you&apos;re doing that and saves its place, so that you can resume from the same spot later without losing prior work.  Nice.  If I finally get into the files, I&apos;ll post a heads-up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:31:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1348993</link>	
		<description>May 21st, and it&apos;s still cranking away, although it&apos;s scaled itself up to seven-letter combinations now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:26:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/91580/Regaining-Access-to-a-Fairly-Old-Encrypted-PDF#1351417</link>	
		<description>May 24th, and it just cracked it.  Although I have heard anecdotally that with English-word passwords, it cracks it in under five minutes.  This was a random string of seven letters.&lt;br&gt;
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Of course, now that I know that the PDF author uses seven-letter passwords, I can tell it to start with seven-letter passwords, which should hopefully cut down some of the time for the remaining two.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 07:56:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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