Comments on: Wendigo myth in the Northwest

Question: Wendigo myth in the Northwest

Artw — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:36:03 -0800

Is the Wendigo purely a Northeast American (and Canadian) myth? If so is there a Northwest equivalent?

By: LobsterMitten

LobsterMitten — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:03:44 -0800

It's widespread, including at least the great central plains of both the northern US and especially Canada:
Windigo
wendigo (wikipedia page lists other shape-shifter myths of north america, at the bottom of the page)

By: amyms

amyms — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:06:37 -0800

Since the Wendigo is a myth from the Algonquin-speaking peoples/tribes, then yes it's primarily sourced within the confines of the northeastern U.S. and Canada. I don't know what a more westerly equivalent would be, specifically, although almost all tribes have cannibalistic myths that are similar to the Wendigo stories.

By: LobsterMitten

LobsterMitten — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:06:58 -0800

And the NW equivalent would probably be something like Bigfoot or Sasquatch, no?

By: amyms

amyms — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:10:44 -0800

Bigfoot popped into my mind too, LobsterMitten, but the Wendigo stories are about malevolent spirits that possessed humans (particularly humans who have engaged in cannibalism), and I don't think the Bigfoot stories have that angle.

By: Phalene

Phalene — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:14:03 -0800

The french Canadians have a 'Loup Garou' that sounds like a fusion of werewolf and local wendigo. Vampires and werewolves both share the same idea of being a person and a monster at the same time.

By: Cool Papa Bell

Cool Papa Bell — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:17:54 -0800

Some Pacific Northwest tribes had a ceremony called Hamatsa, which included cannibalism-related myth.

When they visited the house they found its owner gone, but one of the house posts was a living woman with her legs rooted into the floor, and she warned them about the frightful owner of the house, who was named Baxbaxwalanuksiwe, a man-eating giant with four terrible man-eating birds for his companions. In short the men are able to destroy the man-eating giant and gain mystical power and supernatural treasures from him.

By: ormondsacker

ormondsacker — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:26:42 -0800

How about a cannibalistic skookum, from the Oregon Chinook?

And are you looking for the cannibalism specifically? Because as LobsterMitten says, practically everybody's got a Sasquatch. Some of them eat people, some are transformed former people...

By: Artw

Artw — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:51:15 -0800

It's the possesion bit in particular that interests me, though cannibalism is good too. In fact all of this is great stuff.

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:43:15 -0800

It's kind of periferal to the question but the Wendigo is also included in the Lovecrafian Mythos as Ithaqua ... though I think it's origins are NorthWestern / Alaskan

By: hal_c_on

hal_c_on — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:21:11 -0800

The Navajo (all the way on the opposite side, in the Southwest) have Skinwalkers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:04:52 -0800

Sounds like the nahuales of central Mexico to me, except they usually just steall money, animals and suck a little blood rather than full on eating people, but that's been known to happen too.

By: otolith

otolith — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:07:39 -0800

The is the Kushtaka that comes from Tlingit mythology (Southeast Alaska). It's a shapeshifting creature that, in many stories, takes the form friends or relatives in order to lure people to their death.

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:07:44 -0800

Steal, they steal money and animals. Wow, I need more coffee.

By: neustile

neustile — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:35:16 -0800

Maybe this is why you're asking but coincidentally John A is doing a bit on Wendingos now.

By: gemmy

gemmy — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:49:19 -0800

I wrote a whole paper on Wendigo and similar myths as an anthro undergrad. If I recall correctly, the very specifics of the Wendigo myth (evil spirit, possess those who ate human flesh) is pretty localized to the US northeast.

But there are lots and lots of cannibal myths around the world, and many of them involve the eater taking on some of the characteristics of the eaten person. That's one of the ostensible reasons for cannibalism, i.e. eating an enemy to gain his powers. I'm not sure it's exactly the "possession" that you were looking for, though.