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	<title>Comments on: I want to watch baseball, then drink.</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:18:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: I want to watch baseball, then drink.</title>
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		<description>I need a good dive bar in Phoenix.  Or two. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I&apos;m making my annual Spring Training pilgrimage in a couple weeks, and I need bars to go to when I&apos;m not at baseball games.  I&apos;m familiar with Phoenix, my sister&apos;s family used to live there, but therein lies the problem: in all the years I&apos;ve been going down there, I&apos;ve never really gone out to bars there, because I&apos;m usually hanging with my sister&apos;s toddlers.&lt;br&gt;
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This year, they&apos;re in Tucson, and I&apos;ve realized I know no bars in Phoenix except the bars that are right around the Mariners&apos; ST facility in Peoria.  I&apos;m staying at basically N. Central &amp;amp; Indian School Rd., and according to Yelp there&apos;s a few bars in that area, but mostly what I&apos;m looking for is:&lt;br&gt;
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Dive-y&lt;br&gt;
Not hipster/scenester&lt;br&gt;
Outdoor seating if possible&lt;br&gt;
More of a rock n roll bar (not necessarily live music, though) vibe than a sports vibe - I&apos;ll be getting more than enough sports during my days.&lt;br&gt;
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Basically, a good working-class bar with no pretension and a good jukebox (Alice Cooperstown-ish, maybe, without the pre-game frat boys?).  Anybody in Phoenix have a fave bar that fits any/most of these?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:09:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mullacc</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255137</link>	
		<description>My dive-bar afficiando friends hang out at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yelp.com/biz/swizzle-inn-phoenix&quot;&gt;Swizzle Inn&lt;/a&gt;, which is on the SE corner of 16th St &amp;amp; Bethany Home. Right in  your neighborhood. No outdoor seating though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:18:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notjustfoxybrown</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255142</link>	
		<description>The Bikini Lounge downtown is apparently legend here ... I don&apos;t much like it. It&apos;s very popular though and has a great juke box, nice seating (though not outside). There&apos;s a bartender there who is known for being mean. Apparently, they think this is charming. It&apos;s not.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:25:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notjustfoxybrown</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255195</link>	
		<description>In my haste to badmouth Bikini, I forgot to mention other places you can check out. For some reason, the name of the bar I like the most in this town is completely escaping me.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/search/locations.php?oid=5180&quot;&gt;The Ruby Room&lt;/a&gt; (scenester-ish, but kind of cool)&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://phoenix.citysearch.com/profile/1630145/&quot;&gt;Hidden House&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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The bar I end up going to the most is called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-lost-leaf-phoenix&quot;&gt;Lost Leaf.&lt;/a&gt; It&apos;s not divey but it is very homey and doubles as a gallery for local artists..but any place here worth visiting will definitely have a scenester feel here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:04:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notjustfoxybrown</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255220</link>	
		<description>I remembered the name!!! It&apos;s called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yelp.com/biz/shadys-phoenix-2#hrid:D_7XwXvgqWo-0129TIvIqg&quot;&gt;Shady&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; . Meets all your criteria ... including outside space.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:19:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris4d</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255337</link>	
		<description>The Lost Leaf and most downtown bars qualify as hipster and/or scenester.  I like em, but you probably won&apos;t.  You might try Rosie McCaffery&apos;s and the Sonora Brewhouse in your neighborhood.  I also have to recommend four peaks, even though it&apos;s in tempe.  just go.&lt;br&gt;
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And I love harvey&apos;s wineburger.  mmmmmm.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:55:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kevin-o</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255419</link>	
		<description>Seconding Harvey&apos;s Wineburger.  I visited my sister in Phoenix last February, and she took me there for a burger and a drink.  Delicious and divey.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:59:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kloryne</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84879/I-want-to-watch-baseball-then-drink#1255570</link>	
		<description>We always wind up at &lt;a href=&quot;http://seamusmccaffreys.com/Default.aspx&quot;&gt;Seamus McCaffrey&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; when we&apos;re in Phoenix.  It&apos;s great for some middle of the day drankin&apos; and right next to the insane Hotel San Carlos.  (I personally think their web site makes the bar look less divey than it really is.)  It&apos;s in downtown, too, BTW.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:48:33 -0800</pubDate>
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