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	<title>Comments on: Who is your usenet provider, and do you like them?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:11:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Who is your usenet provider, and do you like them?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them</link>	
		<description>Who is your usenet provider, and do you like them? Retention, uptime, number of groups, logless access... I know that milage varies according to what one is looking for in a news server, but what usenet providers have you had good and bad experiences with? (More) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I used 100proofnews for a year because they had a good price ($8.95/mo), had no download limit(!) and lots of groups. Their problems, predictably, were poor uptime and retention. &lt;br&gt;
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I use usenet mostly for the mp3 binaries groups (strictly for evaluation purposes, of course), and nothing burns my biscuits like finding a great album posted with just a few of each song&apos;s parts missing because the server expired them.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m looking for a news server that has a reasonable download limit, access to many groups, and has a good history of uptime. A provider that doesn&apos;t keep logs is a plus, (*adjusts tinfoil hat*).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:29:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		
			<category>usenet</category>
		
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163562</link>	
		<description>I used to use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.supernews.com/&quot;&gt;Supernews&lt;/a&gt; because they were very light on filtering of &quot;questionable&quot; content.  They &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have an d/l limit these days, but their feeds were top-notch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:11:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: woil</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163566</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been exceedingly happy (as in use it daily) with my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.giganews.com/customer/gn107271&quot;&gt;GigaNews&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ngindex.com/&quot;&gt;ngindex.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsleecher.com/&quot;&gt;newsleecher&lt;/a&gt; combo. ngindex allows you to browse and search online throught the miles of headers (binaries included) and will let you download the .nzb file associated with that post. (the nzb is just an xml file with the post number and group.) Newsleecher can be set up to automatically grab it from giganews which has approx 30 day retention on most groups. A pretty sweet combo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:29:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>woil</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163568</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.cis.dfn.de/&quot;&gt;dfn-cis&lt;/a&gt; -- no binary groups, but they are free and have a nice cleanfeed filter going on.&lt;br&gt;
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other than that I use my precious alumni account access from my uni, but I have heard good things about supernews.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:37:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dorian</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163572</link>	
		<description>Easynews.com.  $10/month for 10 gigs of downloads.  In addition to a full Usenet feed, including all binaries, you get their amazing web-based interface... Global searching across all binary groups, and immediate downloading of decoded binaries.  I can&apos;t recommend them enough.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:08:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163576</link>	
		<description>For the sweet spot in terms of the price/performance/retention combo, I like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.octanews.com&quot;&gt;Octanews&lt;/a&gt;. The sysadmin built the service through comments on the newsgroup &lt;a href=&quot;news:alt.binaries.news-server-comparison&quot;&gt;alt.binaries.news-server-comparison&lt;/a&gt; newsgroup.  You can also preview the service for free at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readfreenews.com&quot;&gt;ReadFreeNews.Com&lt;/a&gt;. I also subscribe to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easynews.com&quot;&gt;easynews&lt;/a&gt; as well, mainly for the file interface.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:17:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tracicle</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163580</link>	
		<description>I second dorian on the dfn.cis usenet server, although I believe they&apos;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.cis.dfn.de/serversplit-en.html&quot;&gt;changed their name&lt;/a&gt; recently to  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.individual.net/&quot;&gt;news.individual.net&lt;/a&gt;.  They tend to carry even the most obscure groups and, of course, are free.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.individual.net/register.html&quot;&gt;Registration&lt;/a&gt; takes a day or two because accounts are approved on an individual basis.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:53:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tracicle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163592</link>	
		<description>Does anyone have a favorite nntp client for OS X?  I use Forte Agent for XP and it&apos;s ok...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 02:02:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dash_slot-</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163606</link>	
		<description>Are any of these accessible from the uk? I want more consistency from my news service - not posts that turn up days later.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:51:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: prolific</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163623</link>	
		<description>Seconding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easynews.com&quot;&gt;Easynews&lt;/a&gt;. I cancelled my sub a few months ago to save money... but ended up signing back up again because my ISP&apos;s binary feed isn&apos;t reliable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:31:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>prolific</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: viama</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163628</link>	
		<description>Thirding Easynews. Fantastic speed, and they now allow you 8 gigs worth of download per month. And yes dash_slot, I&apos;m in the UK. I do find however, that I&apos;m using bittorrent a lot more for my binaries requirements these days.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:46:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ascullion</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163657</link>	
		<description>Four for Easynews - I&apos;m also in the UK. I&apos;m planning to get a credit card from the Nationwide so I don&apos;t have to pay commission on the charge.&lt;br&gt;
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I should say - I live in mortal fear of having my credit card number picked up by some underworked law enforcement offficial.  As far as I can tell, the feed is as close to uncensored as you can get, meaning the bad stuff is on easynews too - so an operation ore-style &apos;crackdown&apos; is always a possibility.  Easynews say they don&apos;t keep access logs of what you look at - which is both a blessing and a curse - as they can&apos;t prove your innocence.  &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m probably worrying too much though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:36:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ascullion</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ook</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163675</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does anyone have a favorite nntp client for OS X?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.panic.com/unison/index.html&quot;&gt;Unison.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:09:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ook</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jjg</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163677</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does anyone have a favorite nntp client for OS X?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.panic.com/unison/&quot;&gt;Unison&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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On preview: Jinx!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:11:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jjg</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yeahyeahyeahwhoo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163700</link>	
		<description>another user of easynews here,  using a newsreader you get 12.5GB/mo w/ free headers for $10/month.&lt;br&gt;
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a friend uses &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usenetserver.com/&quot;&gt;usernetserver.com&lt;/a&gt; which is $15/mo but no download limit. I&apos;ve been considering switching to this when i get a dvd burner.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:45:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yeahyeahyeahwhoo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#163727</link>	
		<description>Weighing in on the client question, I recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13571&quot;&gt;MT-Newswatcher&lt;/a&gt; for OSX, but I&apos;ll check out Unison now. Lots of good comments here; thanks and please continue.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2004 09:42:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: calwatch</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#164701</link>	
		<description>Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geeks.org/~ed/Usenet_Servers.html&quot;&gt;wonderful page&lt;/a&gt; comparing all the major premium usenet providers.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Usenetserver.com is not a premium provider and has had lots of reports of missed articles. In Usenet, especially on the binary groups,  you get what you pay for. Giganews and Easynews are widely regarded as the best in binaries.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>calwatch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yeahyeahyeahwhoo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#164922</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsgroupservers.net/&quot;&gt;here is another page of rankings/comparison&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:23:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yeahyeahyeahwhoo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/8482/Who-is-your-usenet-provider-and-do-you-like-them#166517</link>	
		<description>I pay $80 annually at NewsGuy and get 15GB per month. That boils down to $6.65 per month for 15gigs. That&apos;s better than SuperNews, GigaNews, or EasyNews, the big 3 I hear mentioned most often.&lt;br&gt;
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Their servers are fast, with good retention. Their support is likeable and competent. They also have a nice setup where you can keep a pre-paid bank of overage bandwidth-on-demand, for occasions where you need to exceed your dl limit to finish that last little bit of a dl. Much better than waiting till next month, or buying a whole second account. &lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t know if they log what you&apos;re doing. Presumably, they comply with the law.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:12:57 -0800</pubDate>
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