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	<title>Comments on: Getting more range on a WiFi card</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:13:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Getting more range on a WiFi card</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card</link>	
		<description>How do I get more WiFi range on my laptop computer?  More info follows. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I know the obvious answer here is to stick an antenna on my wireless adapter card.  The problem is that none of my cards appear to have an antenna jack!&lt;br&gt;
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I looked on my Office Depot site for something quick I could pick up today, but all the PC card models shown only have internal antennas and there is no indication whether any of them can take an external antenna.&lt;br&gt;
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Googling this I&apos;m coming up empty, and I looked on some of the wardriving forums, specifically the netstumbler forum, but mostly what I found were soldering mods and snarky answers to people asking the same thing.&lt;br&gt;
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I use Windows and have a Dell laptop, if it matters, and I&apos;d prefer not to have to spend more than $80 on this.  Please no suggestions for fixing the base station; thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:07:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chips ahoy</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: unixrat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253478</link>	
		<description>How goofy are you willing to look?  Your off-the-shelf, maximum range for $80 solution is probably to drag a multi-antennaed WAP with you and connect to that with ethernet.&lt;br&gt;
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So base to base to your machine.  Or you could &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833203004&quot;&gt;get a repeater&lt;/a&gt; and place that for maximum range.  That&apos;ll take some trial and error.</description>
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		<dc:creator>unixrat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spiderskull</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253488</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got a Dell with an internal wireless, and when I last opened it up, there wasn&apos;t any easy way to extend its current antenna. By the looks of it, it would require removing the small wrapper (I think it&apos;s either plastic or capton) and soldering on a new antenna, which you&apos;d have to somehow run through the laptop. In case you&apos;re curious, there should be a slot that you can gain access to with a screwdriver located on the bottom of the laptop.&lt;br&gt;
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You could instead get a new PCMCIA wifi card that has an antenna connector on it, and just work from there. The problem there is that there really aren&apos;t many out there with that antenna coax jack.&lt;br&gt;
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Is there any way you can just boost the router&apos;s signal? unixrat&apos;s suggestion of a repeater may work just as well too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:29:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: signalnine</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253503</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d look into getting something like a Wi-Fire, which has a pretty good built-in antenna and 500mw of power, runs about $60-80. You can also find USB WiFi devices that allow for external antenna connection. Alfa and several other companies make products like these.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:39:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253529</link>	
		<description>These old Orinoco cards have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000227PC2/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;them.&lt;/a&gt;  I&apos;m uncertain if they supposed WPA. I think there is  hack for them.&lt;br&gt;
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All cisco aironet cards have them.&lt;br&gt;
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Now toss in the pigtail adapter (some come with this) and a decent antenna and you -might- be able to do this for 80 dollars.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:51:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>damn dirty ape</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253535</link>	
		<description>Seconding the repeater/bridge suggestion. It usually works much better. A better antenna means a few db gain, not much more unless youre using a directional one and pointing at the WAP. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.directron.com/hai8dd.html&quot;&gt;hawking makes a few cheap directional&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;
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You can make a free repeater using an old linksys WAP with the free DD-WRT firmware.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:56:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>damn dirty ape</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253537</link>	
		<description>Oh and to kill two birds with one stone: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32&amp;FamID=60&amp;ProdID=280&quot;&gt;Hawking makes this great little usb wifi card with the directional antenna I linked to above.&lt;/a&gt;  Its  a good solution for you, but not the most portable thing in the world.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:58:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>damn dirty ape</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Myself</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253572</link>	
		<description>You could also look at client cards that advertise MIMO capability, which claims tons better range, and in the real world achieves some improvement.&lt;br&gt;
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Personally, I have an ancient ParkerVision D2D card, with a giant divingboard antenna, which works about twice as far as all the other cards I&apos;ve tried. It&apos;s 802.11b-only though, so speed is nothing special.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:18:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Myself</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 517</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1253613</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=19&amp;FamID=33&amp;ProdID=302&quot;&gt;this thing&lt;/a&gt; from Hawkings and it works pretty well. I got it from Best Buy for $55.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:43:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: exphysicist345</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/84747/Getting-more-range-on-a-WiFi-card#1254194</link>	
		<description>The old Orinoco cards are the classic answer, and are favored by the wardriving folks who use Netstumbler.  They have an antenna connector (but it&apos;s veeeeery small) and can be bought cheap (under $30, new) on &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&amp;sbrftog=1&amp;catref=C6&amp;maxrecordsreturned=300&amp;frpp=50&amp;from=R10&amp;satitle=orinoco+gold&quot;&gt;eBay &lt;/a&gt;.   That&apos;s an easy and cheap way to get started if you want to play around with antennas.  Just keep the coax short, because even high-quality coax (which is definitely what you want to use) loses signal&amp;mdash;more feet, less signal.  In other words, if you put up a really nice antenna with several dB gain, if the coax is too long, you could lose all that gain by the time the signal reaches the card.&lt;br&gt;
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If you aren&apos;t interested in playing with antennas, it would be easier to just get the Hawking parabolic dish that &lt;strong&gt;damn dirty ape&lt;/strong&gt; mentioned.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:26:33 -0800</pubDate>
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