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	<title>Comments on: Wanna go hang out at the mall..again?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:55:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Wanna go hang out at the mall..again?</title>
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		<description>Niagara-Region-Filter: What should I check out in the Niagara region? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I have seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/42170/Need-help-with-NiagaraFalls-trip-during-the-Sep14-Labor-day-weekend&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt;, but it&apos;s old and not what I&apos;m looking for.&lt;br&gt;
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I attend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brocku.ca/&quot;&gt;school&lt;/a&gt; in the Niagara region (the Canada side) and it recently occurred to me that I should stop complaining about what a terrible place I live in, and find out what it has to offer. I am in my 4th year of a 5 year program, so I have a year left to see some cool things.&lt;br&gt;
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What I like:&lt;br&gt;
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- concerts, indie music, small bands&lt;br&gt;
- art - especially the modern period&lt;br&gt;
- books - used bookstores are a favourite&lt;br&gt;
- thrift shops&lt;br&gt;
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What I know about:&lt;br&gt;
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- the small music venues located in St. Catharines&lt;br&gt;
- the Albright-Knox gallery in Buffalo&lt;br&gt;
- the Book Depot in St. Catharines&lt;br&gt;
- every Goodwill, Salvation Army, Value Village, and Christian thrift shop in the Niagara region&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t want to tour wineries, and I have been to Niagara Falls too many times to count.&lt;br&gt;
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Any suggestions? I&apos;m open to almost anything. If there is something that can redeem the area for me, I&apos;d love to hear about it!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:21:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ewiar</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233005</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re still in the city when it&apos;s warm enough to swim, check out Decew Falls. I&apos;m from St. Catharines originally, and it&apos;s the only genuinely cool thing unique to the area that I can think of. I couldn&apos;t give you directions off the top of my head, but I believe it&apos;s just off Merrittville Highway (so not far from campus), and you can actually climb down and swim under the falls which is pretty cool. Ask around and get a native to show you.  &lt;br&gt;
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In September, if you haven&apos;t already, definitely check out the Grape and Wine festival, St. Catharines&apos; answer to Oktoberfest.&lt;br&gt;
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There are a couple not-terrible used book stores on St. Paul St. I&apos;m blanking on the name right now, but there&apos;s one near Carlisle and St. Paul that&apos;s pretty good.&lt;br&gt;
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Other than that, I&apos;m short on ideas. Don&apos;t feel bad about complaining. Most of us who were born there think it sucks too.</description>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233008</link>	
		<description>I assume you mean Niagara region as opposed to Toronto?  Because if nobody has told you, one of the premier metro areas of North America is ~90 minutes thataway.&lt;br&gt;
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Darwin-Martin House in Buffalo?  Haven&apos;t been in, but lord is it something to see from the outside.  And it&apos;s just in this neighborhood, in the middle of a bunch of decently kept up but unspectacular old Victorians.  And it&apos;s walking distance to the zoo, which I also haven&apos;t been to but which surely has an array of interesting and furry aminals.&lt;br&gt;
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Also haven&apos;t done, but want to when it warms up:  prospecting for trilobites and other fossils at Penn-Dixie, just south of Buffalo.&lt;br&gt;
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They&apos;re not thrift stores per se, but you can&apos;t swing a dead cat on Hertel in Buffalo or Main in Williamsville without hitting an antique store, and some of them seem at least to be low-rent enough to be plausible sources of thrift-store-like bargains.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re willing to drive a little farther, the land starts getting a lot less flat-n-boring once you get south of Buffalo into &quot;ski country,&quot; and there are an assortment of state parks in the area.  I can&apos;t vouch for any of them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:59:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davey_darling</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233018</link>	
		<description>Are you a musician? Check out Thorold Music on Front St. in Thorold (not the one down by the pen center) - weird old music store full of 90% crap, 10% coolness. Worth checking out at least once.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m sure you&apos;re reading Pulse to keep up on the concert scene. Have you taken in the S.C.E.N.E festival during your time in Niagara?&lt;br&gt;
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Have you seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lmtconnection.com/index1.htm&quot;&gt;LMT Connection&lt;/a&gt; play yet? They play at On81 every Sunday night. Good for some sweaty funk/blues booty shaking&lt;br&gt;
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My friend Nathan Warriner has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=94337444&quot;&gt;pretty cool band - check out one of their shows&lt;/a&gt;..&lt;br&gt;
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Have you ever been to a drive-in movie? The 4-screener out on Highway 20 opens in late spring I believe.&lt;br&gt;
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In march you and a bunch of friends could head out to &lt;a href=&quot;http://whitemeadowsfarms.com/&quot;&gt;White Meadows farm&lt;/a&gt; for a pancake breakfast with locally produced maple syrup.&lt;br&gt;
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You could go watch some dirt track racing at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.merrittvillespeedway.com/&quot;&gt;Merrittville Speedway&lt;/a&gt; on a Sunday night.&lt;br&gt;
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I haven&apos;t lived in Niagara (hometown is Fonthill) for about 9 years, so I can&apos;t guarantee results on any of this stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:18:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bassjump</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233116</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niagaraparks.com/garden/butterfly.php&quot;&gt;Butterfly Conservatory&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;br&gt;
Go in the dead of winter (like now), when everything around you is bitterly cold and dead, so you can step into a little tropical oasis.  I got to watch a butterfly struggling to get out of its cocoon; it was a pretty amazing experience.&lt;br&gt;
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And yes, definitely spend some time hanging out in Toronto.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:20:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gursky</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233157</link>	
		<description>i forgot to mention that i&apos;m originally from very close to Toronto, so i do visit Toronto frequently. i attend 3 or 4 concerts a month there, and sometimes make lunch or dinner plans with friends to get through my week.&lt;br&gt;
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some responses...&lt;br&gt;
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-have been to DeCew falls (you&apos;re right, it is pretty cool) and Grape/Wine&lt;br&gt;
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-have been into the &apos;ski country&apos; just past Buffalo (2 of my roommates are snowboarders)&lt;br&gt;
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-have always wanted to go to the butterfly conservatory, and completely forgot it existed! thanks!&lt;br&gt;
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davebush: for my first few years at university, drinking/partying/local bars and the events at the university were enough to sustain me. before i leave St. Catharines for good, i want to see if there&apos;s anything worthwhile.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:36:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: saraswati</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233172</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Other than that, I&apos;m short on ideas. Don&apos;t feel bad about complaining. Most of us who were born there think it sucks too.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I spent the first 21 years of my life living there (Fonthill, then Welland) and I can definitely second this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:15:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hazyspring</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233183</link>	
		<description>For indie rock type music stuff in Buffalo, check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tralfmusichall.com/&quot;&gt;Tralf&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigorbitgallery.org/soundlab/upcoming.html&quot;&gt;Soundlab.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:38:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kuujjuarapik</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233237</link>	
		<description>Good arty things happen at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hallwalls.org/upcoming.html&quot;&gt;Hallwalls&lt;/a&gt; on Delaware Ave, downtown Buffalo.  Also check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigorbitgallery.org/&quot;&gt;Big Orbit/Soundlab&lt;/a&gt; scene like hazyspring mentioned. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niagara.edu/cam/&quot;&gt;Castellani Art Museum&lt;/a&gt; has a very good collection for a small museum. &lt;br&gt;
All of these put together are worth the trip across the border.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:52:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kuujjuarapik</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233240</link>	
		<description>I forgot the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burchfield-penney.org/&quot;&gt;Burchfield Penney&lt;/a&gt; museum, which is closing its galleries in March to prepare for a move into their new building across from the Albright-Knox. Also U of Buffalo&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://ubartgalleries.buffalo.edu/pages/UBAndersonGallery/andcurrent.shtml&quot;&gt;Anderson Gallery&lt;/a&gt; which is hard to find if you don&apos;t googlemap the directions. There&apos;s a lot of great art in the WNY area, it&apos;s just spread out .</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:01:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233296</link>	
		<description>Do you like theater?  Don&apos;t miss the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shawfest.com/&quot;&gt;Shaw Festival&lt;/a&gt; in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario. It runs April-early November, so there&apos;s quite a bit of flexibility in when you can go.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:34:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: still_wears_a_hat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233311</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re there in July and August, Niagara-on-the-Lake will be full of little fruit stands, with some of the best peaches and grapes you&apos;ll ever run into.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:05:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maxwell_Smart</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/83258/Wanna-go-hang-out-at-the-mallagain#1233721</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=griffis+sculpture+park&quot;&gt;Griffis Sculpture Park&lt;/a&gt; is a huge tract of land that has about 200 of Larry Griffis&apos; larger-than-life sculpures on it.  This really makes a great, inexpensive day trip.&lt;br&gt;
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Another place to go is Lackawanna, which is a seen-better-times rust belt town with an amazing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=our+lady+of+victory+lackawanna&amp;m=text&quot;&gt;cathedral &lt;/a&gt;at the center. Also in Lackawanna are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=lackawanna+botanical&amp;m=text&quot;&gt;Buffalo Botanical Gardens.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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While it is still cold and snowy outside, you could go skiing at Tamarack, Kissing Bridge, or Holliday Valley (listed in increasing order of price/distance/quality).&lt;br&gt;
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For architecture, there are two Frank Lloyd Wright houses that are open to visitors-- the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=darwin+martin&amp;m=text&quot;&gt;Darwin Martin Complex&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Greycliff&amp;m=text&quot;&gt;Greycliff&lt;/a&gt;.  Downtown, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ah.bfn.org/a/church/28/02ext/index.html&quot;&gt;Guaranty Building&lt;/a&gt; is another amazing piece of architecture.&lt;br&gt;
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If you are of the adventurous urban-explorer law-bending type, you can follow in the footsteps of these &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ntropy.us/jannx/pblog/index.php?x=browse&quot;&gt;guys,&lt;/a&gt; who have found their way into a few of the many abandoned factories in the area.  I recognize local steel mills, grain elevators, and even an unused wing of the Canadian power project.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:26:21 -0800</pubDate>
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