Comments on: What do I do with collar stays?

Question: What do I do with collar stays?

jontyjago — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:45:51 -0800

Ok, so I now know they're called Collar Stays but what do I do with them?

When do I remove them? When washing, storing or wearing? Wikipedia says they should be taken out when dry cleaning, but what about ordinary washing? And why do some shirts have them and others not?

By: jmnugent

jmnugent — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:03:01 -0800

Personally, I keep all of my collar stays in a small jewelry box, only inserting them into shirts immediately before wearing, and removing them when I take the shirt off. Mostly I do this because I dont want to lose them. (I'm referring to glossy gold/metal collar stays, not the cheapo plastic ones which really dont work anyways)

By: generichuman

generichuman — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:35:32 -0800

Jmnugent has the right idea.

Even if you have the plastic ones, take them out when you launder your shirts. It's awful when a plastic collar stay breaks in the collar. (Plus, if you forget that they're there when you iron your shirt, it can be even more trouble.)

Investing in few metal ones is always worth it. Any good mens-wear shop should have them.

Why do some shirt have them? Probably a reflection of how formal the manufacturer feels the shirt should be.

Basicaly, all they do is stop your collar from folding or getting warped, crumpled or curled.

Even in a casual context, a sharp straight collar is always better looking than some rumpled mess.

In a suit, they keep the spread of your collar even and in place, so you don't get your collar up over the lapels of your jacket or expose the loop of your tie.

By: Hogshead

Hogshead — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:40:29 -0800

Generichuman recommends metal stiffeners, though if you can find ones made of a thermosetting plastic like Bakelite (will not warp with heat) or even antique ivory ones, then if you forget to remove them before washing they won't deform and won't damage the shirt.

As for why: they're like holes for cufflinks. Their presence says a lot about the formality of the garment, and thus about its wearer.

By: Ironmouth

Ironmouth — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:08:06 -0800

Save them. It sucks to have the edges of your collar keep flipping up. I take them in and out every time.

By: gjc

gjc — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:17:36 -0800

My cynical thought is that it's cheaper for shirt manufacturers to not have to sew collar stiffener into the shirt.

By: Doohickie

Doohickie — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:57:00 -0800

I actually bet it's more expensive to sew the hole in to access the collar stay area, gjc.

I would keep them with my cuff links. When the cuff links go on, collar stays in. Cuff links off, collar stays out.

By: GuyZero

GuyZero — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:12:38 -0800

From experience, if you don't take them out, they usually come out in the washer or dryer. I have 2-3 sets of stays for 4-6 shirts these days due to laundry losses.

By: dpcoffin

dpcoffin — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:46:44 -0800

My cynical thought is that it's cheaper for shirt manufacturers to not have to sew collar stiffener into the shirt.

A thought only possible in the mind of someone who has never really cared what his shirt collar looks like.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:07:05 -0800

My cynical thought is that it's cheaper for shirt manufacturers to not have to sew collar stiffener into the shirt.

Not true- that's actually an easier procedure than making the slots for collar stays.

By: leapfrog

leapfrog — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:14:45 -0800

I have a set of stainless steel collar stays sold under the brand name "Wurkin Stiffs." (link) The nice thing about them is that they come with little magnets that go inside the shirt to hold the collar tips down. Collar fly-away is no more.
When I'm done wearing them, they come out of the shirt and go back in their little box.

By: KRS

KRS — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:15:12 -0800

There at least used to be collar stay called the Spiffy. It was the shape of an inverted "U" with spring-loaded pins pointing down. You tucked it up under your collar behind your tie, pushed the pins up and stuck the points in at the collar tips.

If it's still made, you can probably find it at military or police uniform stores, or any place there's ROTC or a military school.

By: gjc

gjc — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:43:28 -0800

"A thought only possible in the mind of someone who has never really cared what his shirt collar looks like."

Wow, tell me how you really feel. My collars look fine.

By: dpcoffin

dpcoffin — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:53:34 -0800

Sorry, gjc; certainly didn't mean to insult you. I'm sure your collars DO look fine, and that you're an estimable fellow regardless.

But consider:

The fact that you think your collars look fine, and even that you have an opinion about the look of collars, doesn't in any way prove that you "really care" about this weighty issue.

Here's what I meant:

If you DID really care, you'd certainly have noticed that sewn-in stays look worse than insertable ones simply because they can't be removed during laundering and pressing, so they inevitably wind up imprinting on the outer collar when ironed, breaking, distorting, and otherwise offending those who care. Never noticed? Wear only wash-and-wear shirts? You've never bought a collar stay? Sorry; can't count you amongst the Really Caring... (Don't fret; it's not that much fun...)

You'd also have noticed that the more expensive a dress shirt, the more unlikely it is to have sewn-in stays, rather than the other way 'round, as your comment suggests.

That's all; not a personal critique...

By: senseigmg

senseigmg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:51:46 -0800

I also have wurkin stiffs, and they are SWEET! Watch out for the women though, one pull on your shirt will have you searching for that magnet for 30 min.