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	<title>Comments on: trying to find THE most brutal whale picture</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:32:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: trying to find THE most brutal whale picture</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been trying to find a really brutal picture/print/woodcutting of an old-school whale/sea monster for awhile, as a potential tattoo. You know the kind, double blowholes that look more like horns, fangs, the kinds you see in the corners of old maps. Bibliodyssey has some ok ones, but I&apos;m looking for the perfect one, because I know if I settle for another, I&apos;ll just find the perfect one the second I&apos;ve permanently inked myself with a mediocre monster. Any ideas of where I could look?&lt;/ahref&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:08:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>domakesaypat</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206920</link>	
		<description>In this situation you really can&apos;t go wrong with a kraken. Or, in the French mode, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Denys_de_Montfort&quot;&gt;COLOSSAL OCTOPUS&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br&gt;
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You may think you want explicit fangs and suckers and blowholes, but have you also considered whether you want to ever sleep soundly again?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:32:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thrako</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206923</link>	
		<description>I remember seeing some really good monsters in Mercator&apos;s original projection, the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wilhelmkruecken.de/ADUSUM/15692001.GIF&quot;&gt;Nova et Aucta Orbis Terrae Descriptio ad Usum Navigatium Emendate&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, but you can&apos;t quite see them in the picture.  The map is in the Chicago Field Museum right now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:37:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rumple</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206926</link>	
		<description>There are lots of blogs that specialize in antique maps, as well as a lot of online antique map and cartography sites (many based from universities) - remembering that a lot (but not all) of these monsters (&quot;cartographic motifs&quot;) will be on marine &lt;em&gt;charts&lt;/em&gt;, not maps &lt;em&gt;per se&lt;/em&gt; - that may help in searching.    If you haven&apos;t browsed/googled those, then that&apos;s a good place to start, of course.&lt;br&gt;
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Munster&apos;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.bpl.org/id/05_01_000246/&quot;&gt;Map of Sea Monsters&lt;/a&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shipsonstamps.org/Topics/html/monster.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
sea monsters on postage stamps&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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metafilter posts tagged with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/tags/cartography&quot;&gt;cartography&lt;/a&gt; and with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/tags/Maps&quot;&gt;maps&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:44:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rumple</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Rumple</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206930</link>	
		<description>Also: &lt;a href=&quot;http://amnh.org/exhibitions/mythiccreatures/water/gallery.php?image=3&amp;p=&amp;a=#cap&quot;&gt;current AMNH exhibit&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://amnh.org/exhibitions/mythiccreatures/water/gallery.php?image=27&amp;p=&amp;a=#cap&quot;&gt;This book&lt;/a&gt; looks awesome: check out the bottom right fanged guy.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orteliusmaps.com/book/ort161.html&quot;&gt;This map&lt;/a&gt; also looks great.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:48:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rumple</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Rumple</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206933</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://kort.bok.hi.is/kort/jpg/island136x1024.jpg&quot;&gt;Higher resolution &lt;/a&gt;of that last map, of Iceland.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rumple</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nekton</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206957</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ian-albert.com/misc/bigimages/gutierrez/sea-monster2-150dpi.jpg&quot;&gt;This one&lt;/a&gt; is pretty cool (two spouts, some claws and spikes, quite angry.)&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Sea-monster_Terme_di_Nettuno_Ostia_Antica_2006-09-08.jpg/800px-Sea-monster_Terme_di_Nettuno_Ostia_Antica_2006-09-08.jpg&quot;&gt;This one&lt;/a&gt; is more like a &quot;sea lion&quot;. &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/773/245661.JPG&quot;&gt;This one&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s in color!&lt;br&gt;
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This is just a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img/monster_mask_large.jpg&quot;&gt;head/mask&lt;/a&gt;, but it&apos;s pretty badass.&lt;br&gt;
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I like them all...what a good idea for a tattoo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:52:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nnk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206961</link>	
		<description>I may be way off base, but you might want to check out the engravings &amp;amp; drawings of Barry Moser or Leonard Baskin - particularly, Moser who did illustrations for both the Odyssey and Moby Dick -- Really beautiful stuff. I couldn&apos;t really find anything online for either book, but you might want to check them out in a book store.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:57:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brianogilvie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206969</link>	
		<description>I suggest taking a look at the sea monsters depicted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Carta_Marina.jpeg&quot;&gt;Olaus Magnus&apos;s 1539 Carta Marina&lt;/a&gt; (a map of Scandinavia and adjacent lands and seas). Wikimedia has a good high-resolution image.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:13:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206983</link>	
		<description>You might look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Jabberwocky.jpg/300px-Jabberwocky.jpg&quot;&gt;Jabberwocky&lt;/a&gt; for inspiration.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:32:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1206993</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://monsterbrains.blogspot.com/2006/07/sea-monsters-this-first-link-is.html&quot;&gt;Sea Monsters&lt;/a&gt; at Monster Brains. If it was me, I would drop a line to one of the cartography sales sites (eg. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themaphouse.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.themaphouse.com/&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:48:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: funkbrain</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1207130</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brandonbird.com/highsea.html&quot;&gt;Bad Day on the High Sea&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:31:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonmilk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1207142</link>	
		<description>How do you feel about Tony Millionaire whales?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m574.gif&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m587.gif&quot;&gt;another&lt;/a&gt; and then there&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m606.gif&quot;&gt;this thing...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:00:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>moonmilk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: moonmilk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1207335</link>	
		<description>Sorry, it looks like my image links didn&apos;t work.  Try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m574.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m587.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and then there&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m606.html&quot;&gt;this thing.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;small&gt;(and maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m334.html&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m343.html&quot;&gt;will&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m630.html&quot;&gt;inspire&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maakies.com/archive/m620.html&quot;&gt;you&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:06:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: domakesaypat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1207556</link>	
		<description>Bad Day on the High Sea was actually my desktop background for a couple years, nothing could be more epic. That would require a full back tattoo though, I&apos;m looking for something a little more arm or chest appropriate.  At the end of the day though, even if I don&apos;t find the whale monster of my dreams, this question was a victory if only because I, and hopefully many other people, got to see that mind-blowing image one more time. It might even have to become my desktop again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:47:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kpmcguire</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1207968</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61oMBSNSmiL._SS500_.jpg&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; Mastodon album. Awesome band, by the way.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:50:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikepop</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1208169</link>	
		<description>I have a couple in some books at home, I&apos;ll post them up here later.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:10:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikepop</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: humannaire</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1209475</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Awesome band, by the way.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Heh...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_UKloFwHps&quot;&gt;Mastadon&lt;/a&gt;. [&lt;small&gt;Derail.&lt;/small&gt;]</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:35:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikepop</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/81418/trying-to-find-THE-most-brutal-whale-picture#1212360</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://mikepop.vox.com/library/photo/6a00c10e0f74ddd3b400e398d596920005.html&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s one&lt;/a&gt; - I think you could have the tattoo artist adapt it to be a bit more brutal but I like the basic design. If you want a better picture of it, let me know.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:18:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikepop</dc:creator>
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