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	<title>Comments on: DDR without Japanese Pop music?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:03:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: DDR without Japanese Pop music?</title>
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		<description>What game system has the best &lt;em&gt;Dance, Dance, Revolution&lt;/em&gt; array of games if avoiding Japanese synth-pop is a priority? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I am researching a belated Christmas gift for a DDR-fanatic: I&apos;m open to PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii, so there&apos;s a degree of backwards compatibility to add to the accounting. Does anyone with experience in these matters know which set of games have the most interesting music? Alternatively, if one of the systems has good online addons (where you can purchase songs online, I think?) with a Euro-american dance music bent, that would help too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:55:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: box</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1186942</link>	
		<description>As long as you make sure you&apos;re getting one of the backwards-compatible ones, I&apos;d say PS3.  According to Gamerankings, the PS2 has more DDR games than every other system put together.</description>
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		<title>By: aubilenon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1186975</link>	
		<description>The PS2 versions are made by KCET (Konami Computer Entertainment, Tokyo) and there are lots of them and IMO they&apos;re the funnest, but they are still oriented to japanese sensibilities.  &lt;br&gt;
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The Xbox version is made by KCEH (Konami Computer Entertainment, Hawaii) and does have a more American feel.  It also has a lot of add-on tracks, because that was the XBox&apos;s big thing, downloadable content.  The PS2 has no downloadable content.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ddrfreak.com/versions/listver.php&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a list of a bunch of DDR games including song lists.  I think it&apos;s out of date - there is a Wii game (DDR Hottest Party) and an Xbox 360 game (DDR Universe) that aren&apos;t listed.&lt;br&gt;
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I would say the PS2 is the platform for DDR, but I don&apos;t really mind cheesy J-pop influenced stuff.  It&apos;s hard to fathom that anyone could become a DDR Fanatic (as you say) with such an aversion!  &lt;br&gt;
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Does anyone know if the xbox360 can play the Xbox Ultramixes?  If so I would say the 360 might suit your criteria.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:37:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meagan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1186976</link>	
		<description>You tend to find more Japanese synth-pop (Naoki, etc) in the PS1 and early PS2 versions of the game, so as long as you stick with anything new you&apos;ll be fine.&lt;br&gt;
Go with PS3 as mentioned above, there are at least 5 or 6 mixes for PS2, and another 4 or more for PS1, including the *ahem* interesting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gamespot.com/ps/puzzle/dancedancerevolutiondm/index.html&quot;&gt;Disney Mix&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:39:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PowerCat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1186995</link>	
		<description>Step 1. Get a USB DDR Pad.&lt;br&gt;
Step 2. Get &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stepmania.com/&quot;&gt;StepMania for PC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Step 3. Download songs online. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Download_Songs&quot;&gt;A site&lt;/a&gt; (and many other more. stepmania song packs, etc)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:05:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prospero</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1187051</link>	
		<description>The later PS2 games (Extreme; Extreme 2; Supernova; Supernova 2) have more licensed Western tracks than the earlier ones. (Though in my opinion the J-pop tunes tend to have better stepcharts.)&lt;br&gt;
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The thing about DDR is that once you get to a certain level, you&apos;ll happily listen to otherwise annoying music for the pleasure of playing through a difficult chart. So the quality of the music doesn&apos;t matter &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; much, unless this gift is going to result in you having to hear these songs over and over while the recipient is practicing.&lt;br&gt;
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PS3 is the way to go, I think. But note that PS3 backward compatibility depends on the model--some PS3s have hardware BC, some have software BC, and some have no BC at all. You want the 80GB PS3, or preferably the 20 or 60 GB if you can find it. You don&apos;t want the 40GB.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:11:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: -harlequin-</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1187065</link>	
		<description>I know you didn&apos;t mention PC, but an as yet unmentioned advantage to Stepmania over all the other systems is that in addition to the music already available for download, you can make your own dance tracks for it, from whatever music you want to use.&lt;br&gt;
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You could thus take the traditional &quot;mix-tape&quot; gift to the next level - a mix-tape of dance game levels created from your own collection of music.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:28:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: liet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1187103</link>	
		<description>You might want to look into dance pads while you&apos;re at it.  Last time I looked into it, neither the Xbox 360 nor the Wii had any quality accessories, and playing on a cheap thin mat sucks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anotherpanacea</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1187169</link>	
		<description>Thanks for these answers! As you guessed, the DDR fanatic is less picky than I am about the music. A last question: any advice on control pads? Apparently some pads suffer from high lag?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:15:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: team lowkey</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1187415</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s been a while for me, but a few years ago the best dance pads were made by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redoctane.com/buyersguide.html&quot;&gt;Red Octane&lt;/a&gt; (who went on to make Guitar Hero). The metal arcade pad is pricey, but man does it make a big difference to the fanatic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:01:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aubilenon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79993/DDR-without-Japanese-Pop-music#1188915</link>	
		<description>I too vote for extremely expensive metal dance pads.  I personally use &lt;a href=&quot;http://cobaltflux.com/&quot;&gt;Cobalt Flux&lt;/a&gt; pads because Red Octane wasn&apos;t making metal pads at the time and CF really had no competition to compare.  &lt;br&gt;
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I believe both companies make excellent products, but I would just like to take a second and point out the sort of uncanny similarity between the two companies&apos; names.&lt;br&gt;
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The two advantages I found to using the hard pads is a) they&apos;re more sensitive, and b) they don&apos;t break after a month.   Oh also c) they don&apos;t try to slide under the sofa when you dance on them like the soft pads did, because they weigh 40 pounds.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:17:20 -0800</pubDate>
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